Okay, I feel like I didn’t get much; but might as well post what I’ve been doing for two hours.
Do you think these are the posts of a real townie?
Racer on D1:
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 06:46:39:[vote]Kyle[/vote]
Not only does he have the same first name as me, but he accused me. And so obviously I should act like a noob and vote him.
His first post. Dan has pointed out that he might've been TMI'ing about Kyle being town and he replies that he was mocking Vinnie's behavior from a previous game as a joke. Makes sense, but some people thought he may have thought of the excuse later on, I don't discard that option.
Here's one of TvK's arguments against him due to his post:
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 08:20:05:Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:49:26:DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:44:00:Alaktorn, Racer's "act like a noob" part of his first post against Kyle is what stood out to me and what made me think he might be TMI'ing. It's true that he could just be saying that because of his insecurity about the game in general, but he could also be trying to vote on town Kyle as a member of the mafia and then trying to soft-clear himself for it by saying that it was a "noob" action as if we shouldn't put any stock into his vote.
It was a joke post early in the game. I didn't realise it would come off so scummy.
So you only care about not coming off as scummy?
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:54:14:DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:34:58:Also Alaktorn I think TvK had the same reaction I did to Racer's post about Kyle (that he might be TMI'ing Kyle as town with his "act like a noob" part, unless something different about the post made him react that way). Could you explain what is weird about my reaction?
TvK, opinion?
Racer's post would have been perfectly fine if had just said the first part. But then he totally goes out of his way to force some kind of reasoning why he would do so. It is known that votes on the first page are random. Then he tries to reassure us that he really is randomvoting, but then he says the "so I'll act like a noob" part. Don't you find that post incredibly forced for just being a random vote post?
Catching up.
P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:50:54:Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:47:02:P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:20:03:...I see no problem with randomness
This is giving me some scum vibes. Shouldn't town want order, in order to figure out who's Maf? I feel like Only Maf want randomness, as it's easier to sit back in the pandemonium of things.
feels like you're taking that out of context. I said it works when there's no information. On page 3 randomness is bad obviously
Was he trying to make me look scummy already?
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 09:17:21:I care about helping town the most. If I come off scummy, then you guys are looking for proof against me, a loyal townie, instead of trying to look for actual Maf.
Part of his response to people who suspected him due to his 1st post. Seems like something town would say. He says lots of things which make him look town, all over the game. Maybe too much, you'll see where I'm getting...
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 11:09:49:My reads are
Dan - slight lean on him for Maf, as he has been acting strange/scummy all game.
ALAK - I don't think that Dan and ALAK are m/m There exchange didn't feel like bussing, it felt more like straight up accusations. I think they can easily be t/m With either one of the turning up Maf, and I think Dan is more likely to.
PAF - Town lean for reasons I've already given.
Above, he shows his reads, says Dan had been acting scummy like some people already said before.
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 11:14:52:Yoshistar™ wrote on 08/11/16 at 11:09:13:DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 07:58:16:I definitely could want there to be pressure on Yoshistar if I was mafia.
I don't trust this one, it gives me maf vibes.
Explain. What part of the post gives off bad vibes?
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:30:52:Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:49:53:I don't think i have learned very much after reading through the thread. I'm leaning to toward town for DB and Racer, but that can change easily.
I voted for Alak early on without any info. I'm going to keep my vote on him for the time being.
PAF said "I went on a small bike ride. I do it around once a week during summer." This is strange to see in a mafia game.
Why will you keep your vote on ALAK? Explain.
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 14:35:29:Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/11/16 at 14:12:21:Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:30:52:Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:49:53:I don't think i have learned very much after reading through the thread. I'm leaning to toward town for DB and Racer, but that can change easily.
I voted for Alak early on without any info. I'm going to keep my vote on him for the time being.
PAF said "I went on a small bike ride. I do it around once a week during summer." This is strange to see in a mafia game.
Why will you keep your vote on ALAK? Explain.
I always think day 1 is a shot in the dark. Point me in the direction of someone more worthy of my vote.
This is very scummy and bad play. Just because it's day one does not mean you can just sit back and wait for Maf to pull a misslynch. If you are actually town, you should be looking for clues, anything that looks scummy, not just sitting back with your joke vote from earlier. This is either awful awful lazy town play, or a scared Maf who doesn't want to get caught. Either way, this kind of play makes you look bad and I don't like it.
Trying to act like a townie once more…
He insists on sportsguy even though he’s playing like he usually does, regardless of alignment.
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 16:07:33:TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 16:06:08:Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 16:02:16:Dan, TvK, ALAK. We need more activity. Start posting.
Why would you specifically call the three top posters out for more activity? Wouldn't it make more sense that someone else would step up and be more vocal at this point? I think Dan, ALAK and I have been quite clear about who we are suspecting. But on the other hand, Leone hasn't got his vote on anyone, TYG and Kyle haven't even voted yet, and Zwiebel has yet to post.
You three were on when I checked, but none of you top posters were posting anything.
This seems like fluff to me. TvK points out that he should’ve called other people and he replies with this. He’s just trying to act like town, really.
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/11/16 at 16:43:34:Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 16:17:20:ALAK, why aren't you posting? This makes you seem more scummy.
Haha I like you. You’re cute.
There ya go, he does it again. I can understand ALAK’s response (although he had town lean on Racer)
Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 16:55:06:Racer727 wrote on 08/11/16 at 15:31:27:DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 15:29:11:P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 15:27:38:Also I've been reading the Dan/ALAK interaction and it seems most likely t/m, altough there's a chance it's t/t. Too elaborated for m/m. Can't tell which one is maf tho...
One thing I'd like to point out is that Dan has said that he himself has been himself for town and posted a lot.... and he said it 3 times. Would a good townie do this? Seems a bit arrogant...
He also posted (not exact quote, this may be taken different posts) "im vanilla townie so it's not a problem if i get lynched but if you think im maf then either ur maf or you suck". Eh... really?
To clarify, I don't think it's dumb for someone to think I'm maf. I think it's dumb for Alaktorn to not be willing to reconsider his view that Leone and I are 100% m/m.
WQhy would it be dumb? WQhat if they had proof?
I misread this post
forget what I said here lol. I agree with what you have to say here.
he writes this weird post about proof of someone being maf… could this be a slip? maybe not, but I’m posting this to be safe. He used the “I misread" excuse.
Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 07:33:32:TvK wrote on 08/12/16 at 07:12:21:Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 06:46:46:Leone wrote on 08/12/16 at 01:19:36:Actually scratch that, everyone, answer #318 pls thxz
I might as well. Although SG is super scummy, lynching him isn't our best bet because either Dan or Leone would give is much more info.
I feel like Dan is a better lynch because if Leone keeps posting like he did after his research paper, he's a valuable asset and I feel like it's the type of play only town can come up with. Dan has been arguing with ALAK all day And while Leone has made a good effort at scum hunting. Nevertheless, I still want to , keep my vote on SG, because even if he's town, he should play much better regardless.
I actually totally disagree with you there. Look at Leone's research. TYG is neutral, Sportsguy is unreadable, TvK is neutral. You don't have o do a lot of research to come to that conclusion. Where do you see Leone scumhunting? Don't you think he at least should put his vote down on anyone? Could you tell me right now where Leone is trying to convince us to vote or at least pressure someone? Or do we have a different definition of scumhunting?
Mine is digging up posts and commenting on it. But even rhen, I do agree he should come up with a conclusion and vote someone. I only say Dan is the better lynch because I feel we can get more info out of it.
Trying to get the most informative lynch instead of the biggest scum odds? Doesn't seem like town.
Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 08:41:56:Anyone else getting rather scummy reads from Kyle? I feel like he's just jumping on the bandwagon without much thought. I think we should pressure him because he doesn't seem to be doing much, and that's either a sign of bad town, or Maf, and I'm leaning slightly towards Maf for him.
Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 08:43:30:Timur, Zoran, thoughts? I see you two are still on.
Again…
Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 12:24:38:Yoshistar™ wrote on 08/12/16 at 12:20:31:Hey all, I'm back from hunting Pokémon... again
(I blame my parents
)
I'm now catching up and will try to stay as active as possible, right now I'm at page 14.
As you are catching up, here are some questions: What Do You think of TYG? Do you think there are any active Maf or do you think they are all low posters? What do you make of Leone's self voting? What Do You think about Zoran's findings on ALAK?
That last question should probably be answered by everyone, btw
Those questions could’ve been asked by ANYONE.
TvK wrote on 08/12/16 at 16:41:39:I'm also eagerly awaiting more content from YS, Kyle, TYG or Racer, but people have prodded them multiple times already. I'm around with this thread openened in a tab, but I don't think I have much to add until any of these people come in and post something substantial.
TvK realizing that Racer didn’t post much actual content.
Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 17:00:33:Scum
SG
TYG
Leone
Neutral is anyone I don't mention
Town
PAF
Dan
While SG is scummiest, he claims to play like he does all the time, so day two I will be able to convince people more, because he will (apparently) play "better". I think that he is a good day two or three lynch, despite the fact he is super scummy, because he claims he will play better, and so I can get more evidence against him. For today I feel TYG will be a better lynch.
His scum list now contains two confirmed townies and one near-confirmed townie. He seems to try to get an excuse to lynch SG on D2, by implying he would still be scummy. Says TYG is a good lynch D1 despite not being the most scummy.
Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 17:11:32:TvK wrote on 08/12/16 at 17:06:16:Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 17:00:33:While SG is scummiest, he claims to play like he does all the time, so day two I will be able to convince people more, because he will (apparently) play "better". I think that he is a good day two or three lynch, despite the fact he is super scummy, because he claims he will play better, and so I can get more evidence against him. For today I feel TYG will be a better lynch.
Why is TYG the better lynch? In your list, TYG and Leone are next to eachother in terms of least to most likely to flip scum. Look at the rest of the people voting: 7 players are on the Leone wagon already. What does that tell you? Also, after I mentioned that I thought the TYG wagon going too fast, it basically stopped moving. Do you think there's a possibility that the TYG wagon was a maf-driven wagon to save Leone? Keep in mind that Leone was happy enough to jump on it, even though he was having a lot of troubles to find a reason to move his vote away from John.
You bring up very valid points. It is interesting that everyone stopped once you brought up the TYG wagon. I guess Leone is best bet. And if it was to protect maf!Leone then with wagonomics, we the town have the game right where we want it.
Racer727 wrote on 08/12/16 at 18:29:14:I guess I'll go with Leone.
[vote]Leone[/vote]
Decides to vote Leone mostly based on the theory that TYG was mafia-driven even though he had said TYG and SG were scummier.
I basically went by the same reasoning myself but I do admit that it was dumb on my part and that I was in a hurry. Were you in a hurry as well, Racer? lol
I really think this is an excuse to not vote the same as Zwiebel.
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