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Reply #175 - 08/11/16 at 12:35:48
 
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The posts were very very defensive, but this is most likely not my final vote.
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Reply #176 - 08/11/16 at 12:39:41
 
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:21:48:
P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:12:41:
Right now my biggest maf lean is Leone. Nonsense (?) reasoning, possibly trying to defend Dan (who i still have a slight mafia lean) and then gives misreading as an excuse which may be fake. Not to mention his inactivity, but that may be legit...
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I also agree with ALAK about Dan, he did make at least 3 defensive posts.


I can see more reasons as to why Dan is scum rather than Leone. And Dan is even voting Leone as well. Does this change anything about your read on either of them?


I don't know if you or Alaktorn are scum.  I won't deny being extremely defensive this game, however I hope I've made it pretty clear that I'm getting defensive because Alaktorn pushed so hard on me for a joke post, which I think is really stupid.

I have the most posts by far the first day so far and I think if you look at them they are mostly town helping posts, maybe not all of the stuff that happened with Alaktorn.  If you ignore the fight between me and Alaktorn, I think you'll see that my posts have content in them and that I'm both pushing and considering people like Racer and PAF.

I have to go soon and don't have time for a longer post about my reads yet.  I think it would be good to have a Leone wagon because so many people have scumread him.  I kind of expect that I'll become a wagon if Leone is actually mafia and that mafia will try to push on me.  I am vanilla town so it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if you lynched me, but I think it's a dumb play to lynch the person who has been giving the most content on D1.  If you think I'm mafia, let me keep talking and lynch me based on information that is gained later.  I expect even if TvK thinks I'm mafia, he won't push a vote on me the first day because he knows that I would be valuable to have around later, unless he is actually mafia.
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Reply #177 - 08/11/16 at 12:42:12
 
^Terrible, terrible post. Shock, you might as well kill the game. Dan/Leone m/m is as good as confirmed.

P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:32:17:
DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:14:19:
I kept myself out of the spotlight.  I have had no trouble putting myself in the spotlight today and scumhunting while also being defensive.


idk man... you could have just changed your play style and then used it as an excuse.

Also if I were mafia, I would try to post as if I were town, even is that implies bussing my teammates way too much. Sure, I'm far from being a good player, but this may not be a bad strat. After all mafia are caught because their behavior deviates from good town behavior. This is also why I hesitate in listing town leans.

I like this post. When I was Mafia that’s what I thought I would do, but actually doing it is harder than saying it. If you feel a scumbuddy is being scummy but nobody else has picked up on it– it’s hard to be the first to pick it up.
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Reply #178 - 08/11/16 at 12:44:27
 
P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:32:17:
DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:14:19:
I kept myself out of the spotlight.  I have had no trouble putting myself in the spotlight today and scumhunting while also being defensive.


idk man... you could have just changed your play style and then used it as an excuse.

Also if I were mafia, I would try to post as if I were town, even is that implies bussing my teammates way too much. Sure, I'm far from being a good player, but this may not be a bad strat. After all mafia are caught because their behavior deviates from good town behavior. This is also why I hesitate in listing town leans.

You weren't around for the first game we did.  In the first game I posted upper half of the game but not the most.  However, I posted probably 3 times more in the mafia chat than I did in the actual game thread, because I like to be the "behind the scenes mafia mastermind" when I am a member of the mafia.  In the second game where I wasn't mafia, I was generally posting more than anyone else.

Now, of course because I know that, I could try to post a lot during another game where I was mafia.  However, I would not be doing that in a way that put me directly in the spotlight, which I have been doing this game.  I don't see in any way how that would have been smart for me to do today as a mafia member.  Because I am vanilla town, I know that I have nothing to lose by being in the spotlight whereas as a member of the mafia it is way more risky.

PAF I actually think you are probably town in a lot of worlds, even if your posting in the beginning of the day wasn't great.  I have to go soon, but I'll elaborate later on what my reads and thoughts on the game are.
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Reply #179 - 08/11/16 at 12:45:03
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:29:39:
Okay ALAK's first post at #20 was agreeing PAF about Dan's post being scummy and votes out of the blue. Not sure if he explained it, but please do if you didn't.

Dan attacking ALAKTORN because "you want to keep Yoshistar around instead so you can confuse him into thinking you are town".

Then ALAK at #38 accuses Dan as maf, starting a bandwagon, Racer follows him.

Not gonna mention all stuff in this post, but ALAKTORN looks town to me, I find it interesting he put me as town because of Daniel, what are your personal thoughts about me ALAKTORN?


Leone voting ALAKTORN in his first post, ALAKTORN finds it scummy, I agree on that one. C'mon Leone, you know this is bad, explain this.

Current maf leans:

-DBMK64
-MKChingChong
-Racer (although very weak lean, but for now I can't trust him as town)

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- PAF (confused townie)
- ALAKTORN

Where is Zwiebel? He should post something.


If Leone is your top scumread, then why won't you comment on the other posts he has made? Are they simply not worth talking about? Also, all of your scumreads seem to be based around ALAK being town. Is ALAK such a strong townread for you? I would greatly appreciate it if you could post "all that stuff" that makes you think ALAK is town, because that is the center of your entire reasoning.
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Reply #180 - 08/11/16 at 12:46:20
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:42:12:
^Terrible, terrible post. Shock, you might as well kill the game. Dan/Leone m/m is as good as confirmed.


If you're town and you really think this, you're being stupid because you're wrong.  Leone might be mafia and I think it's noteworthy that so many people scumread him, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that I am not his scumbuddy.
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Reply #181 - 08/11/16 at 12:49:53
 
I don't think i have learned very much after reading through the thread.  I'm leaning to toward town for DB and Racer, but that can change easily.

I voted for Alak early on without any info.  I'm going to keep my vote on him for the time being.


PAF said "I went on a small bike ride. I do it around once a week during summer."  This is strange to see in a mafia game.
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Reply #182 - 08/11/16 at 12:50:04
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:35:48:
Also, [vote]DBMK64[/vote]

The posts were very very defensive, but this is most likely not my final vote.


This is a bad post. Why will this probably not be your final vote? Because you're opportunistic and would like to wait a big wagon to take off and join then? Because you really want to appear like you're not sure yet so that you can easily switch to someone else? Because you somehow know Dan is town and you don't want to be implicated when he gets lynched?
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Reply #183 - 08/11/16 at 12:51:06
 
DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:39:41:
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:21:48:
P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:12:41:
Right now my biggest maf lean is Leone. Nonsense (?) reasoning, possibly trying to defend Dan (who i still have a slight mafia lean) and then gives misreading as an excuse which may be fake. Not to mention his inactivity, but that may be legit...
[vote]Leone[/vote]

I also agree with ALAK about Dan, he did make at least 3 defensive posts.


I can see more reasons as to why Dan is scum rather than Leone. And Dan is even voting Leone as well. Does this change anything about your read on either of them?


I don't know if you or Alaktorn are scum.  I won't deny being extremely defensive this game, however I hope I've made it pretty clear that I'm getting defensive because Alaktorn pushed so hard on me for a joke post, which I think is really stupid.

I have the most posts by far the first day so far and I think if you look at them they are mostly town helping posts, maybe not all of the stuff that happened with Alaktorn.  If you ignore the fight between me and Alaktorn, I think you'll see that my posts have content in them and that I'm both pushing and considering people like Racer and PAF.

I have to go soon and don't have time for a longer post about my reads yet.  I think it would be good to have a Leone wagon because so many people have scumread him.  I kind of expect that I'll become a wagon if Leone is actually mafia and that mafia will try to push on me.  I am vanilla town so it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if you lynched me, but I think it's a dumb play to lynch the person who has been giving the most content on D1.  If you think I'm mafia, let me keep talking and lynch me based on information that is gained later.  I expect even if TvK thinks I'm mafia, he won't push a vote on me the first day because he knows that I would be valuable to have around later, unless he is actually mafia.


I should have made myself clearer here. I was talking about PAF's posts, which contains more reasons as to why you would be scum rather than Leone, even though he concludes by voting Leone. I actually think Leone has a much higher chance of flipping scum than you at this point.
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Reply #184 - 08/11/16 at 12:58:20
 
I'm very skeptical of DB vs. Alak.  They were big time planners when i was mafia with them in two separate games and i think they could have planned to go after each other to potentially clear the other one if one is lynched.
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Reply #185 - 08/11/16 at 13:00:52
 
Side note: while I greatly encourage the pressure on Leone, we have to keep in mind that it is only 7 to lynch and he has 4 votes on him. We cannot end this day early, definitely not while not even everyone has posted yet.
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Reply #186 - 08/11/16 at 13:05:42
 
TvK, remember there's no majority lynch D1
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Reply #187 - 08/11/16 at 13:09:39
 
DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:46:20:
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:42:12:
^Terrible, terrible post. Shock, you might as well kill the game. Dan/Leone m/m is as good as confirmed.


If you're town and you really think this, you're being stupid because you're wrong.  Leone might be mafia and I think it's noteworthy that so many people scumread him, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that I am not his scumbuddy.

I commend your perseverance, but it’s not working.

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I'm very skeptical of DB vs. Alak.  They were big time planners when i was mafia with them in two separate games and i think they could have planned to go after each other to potentially clear the other one if one is lynched.  

Thank you for the kind words.

Sadly I don’t think Timur will post anytime soon. It’s 11pm now and he’s probably sleeping, he might post in the morning if we’re lucky. I’m trying to tell him that the game has started on Skype but he hasn’t been online (I don’t think that breaks any rules?).
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Reply #188 - 08/11/16 at 13:12:52
 
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:00:52:
only 7 to lynch and he has 4 votes on him. We cannot end this day early


Shock wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:23:16:
Remember, no majority lynch today, so even if everyone in the town votes for the same person the Day phase will not end.


3rd time I'm posting this. It's in bold in the rules, and now twice in-thread. Make sure to actually read the rules please, guys.
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Reply #189 - 08/11/16 at 13:14:49
 
Again Alaktorn, if you are town you need to reconsider because you are wrong. I got pretty heated because I think you initially accused me for what I think are dumb reasons, so I'm not in the most clear-headed mood about determining whether you are mafia or not, but I'll reconsider before the EOD when I am more level-headed. I hope you can do the same if you are actually town because your conclusion that Leone and I are both mafia is wrong.
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Reply #190 - 08/11/16 at 13:28:51
 
DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:14:49:
Again Alaktorn, if you are town you need to reconsider because you are wrong. I got pretty heated because I think you initially accused me for what I think are dumb reasons, so I'm not in the most clear-headed mood about determining whether you are mafia or not, but I'll reconsider before the EOD when I am more level-headed. I hope you can do the same if you are actually town because your conclusion that Leone and I are both mafia is wrong.

Telling me to reconsider over and over won’t make me reconsider. This isn’t Resistance, stop playing that game.
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Reply #191 - 08/11/16 at 13:29:59
 
If you're not willing to reconsider your reads and are going to say that Leone* DansGame are maf/maf then you are either mafia or a terrible player.
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Reply #192 - 08/11/16 at 13:30:52
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:49:53:
I don't think i have learned very much after reading through the thread.  I'm leaning to toward town for DB and Racer, but that can change easily.

I voted for Alak early on without any info.  I'm going to keep my vote on him for the time being.


PAF said "I went on a small bike ride. I do it around once a week during summer."  This is strange to see in a mafia game.  

Why will you keep your vote on ALAK? Explain.
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Reply #193 - 08/11/16 at 13:30:52
 
Umm don't know how that got redded? Lol I put Leone / me
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Reply #194 - 08/11/16 at 13:36:14
 
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:21:48:
And Dan is even voting Leone as well. Does this change anything about your read on either of them?


tbh i don't see why the fact that they seem to agree with me on the biggest mafia lean would change my view of them...
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Reply #195 - 08/11/16 at 13:42:29
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:03:20:
kyleb30 wrote on 08/11/16 at 11:14:35:
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/11/16 at 08:26:34:
DansGame wrote on 08/11/16 at 08:21:07:
Alaktorn, also can you respect why I believe in putting pressure on weaker players now, considering that PAF is acting very crumbly and we're very likely to get info out of this?

I’ve come around a little on you but you still made some really bad posts and I would hate clearing a Mafia.


This is sound reasoning from ALAK, however I'm not a fan of his passive play. I feel he's much more aggresive and pokes a lot more than this when he's town. I'm pretty confident in my analysis of ALAK's game, I'm 75% sure I'm not wrong.

Stop memeing. Me having passive play? What the fuck have you been reading?



Just wanted to say that I'm more certain than not on my analysis of you. The meme was a coincidence, I had to take it lol.

But seriously, what I meant to say was that i didn't like that you backed off so soon on Dan. Unfortunately, I'm the worst at conveying my thoughts, so I used the word passive like an idiot. Anyways, my thoughts still stand there.

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TvK, I want to say you're town, but it's still early, so for now slight town. You've been doing aggresive and always was town and now again, although that implies you're town again, there's no tellling if you're actually are town.


This is bad. Like really, really bad. Pretty much just 2 run-on sentences saying one thing and then immediately refuting it (he's slight town, but I'm not sure he's town. Thanks for that). This is why if we don't find a good lynch I'm very down for killing off Yoshistar (and in return, these posts).

Gonna continue on and catch up.
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Reply #196 - 08/11/16 at 13:43:18
 
P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:36:14:
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:21:48:
And Dan is even voting Leone as well. Does this change anything about your read on either of them?


tbh i don't see why the fact that they seem to agree with me on the biggest mafia lean would change my view of them...


You say you have maf leans on both Leone and Dan in your post. However, one of them (Dan) is voting the other. Do you think they are buddies trying to bus eachother or do you think that only one of them is maf? If so, please explain which one of the two and how that changes your view on the other.
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Reply #197 - 08/11/16 at 13:45:13
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:49:53:
PAF said "I went on a small bike ride. I do it around once a week during summer."  This is strange to see in a mafia game.  


dude ALAK asked me for an excuse for my 2-hour hiatus. I thought explaining what I actually did IRL would be a good idea.
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Reply #198 - 08/11/16 at 13:49:48
 
kyleb30 wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:42:29:
Yoshistar™ wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:08:10:
TvK, I want to say you're town, but it's still early, so for now slight town. You've been doing aggresive and always was town and now again, although that implies you're town again, there's no tellling if you're actually are town.


This is bad. Like really, really bad. Pretty much just 2 run-on sentences saying one thing and then immediately refuting it (he's slight town, but I'm not sure he's town. Thanks for that). This is why if we don't find a good lynch I'm very down for killing off Yoshistar (and in return, these posts).

Gonna continue on and catch up.


As much as I agree with you that lynching Yoshistar would be great no matter the flip; do you feel any difference between his current play and the way he has played all of the other games? Also, I'd rather hear your thoughts on Leone's first couple of posts. Or what about Racer. Some people have voiced leigitimate suspicion on him.

And you also asked me about the Dan-ALAK situation. What do you think of them both voting Leone at this moment?
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Reply #199 - 08/11/16 at 13:53:22
 
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:43:18:
P.A.F.625 wrote on 08/11/16 at 13:36:14:
TvK wrote on 08/11/16 at 12:21:48:
And Dan is even voting Leone as well. Does this change anything about your read on either of them?


tbh i don't see why the fact that they seem to agree with me on the biggest mafia lean would change my view of them...


You say you have maf leans on both Leone and Dan in your post. However, one of them (Dan) is voting the other. Do you think they are buddies trying to bus eachother or do you think that only one of them is maf? If so, please explain which one of the two and how that changes your view on the other.


I think it's likely that he's bussing, why the hell not? Specially considering how Leone (apparently) tried to defend Dan.
On the other hand, as I thought more about Dan's posts my maf lean on him decreases...

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ALAKTORN wrote on 08/18/16 at 15:07:13:
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