This is my post on 3rd person, John. I want to know, who is whos scum buddy. I see zwiebel and Tvk as t/m or m/t. I want ot see what other connections are possible.
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/12/16 at 07:51:25:TvK - nothing changed much here, you are definitely acting like town but I also believe that you could play this way if you were maf.
Dan/Michele - I addressed this again later, out of these 2 I think Michele is more likely maf than Dan. Highly unlikely m/m pair.
Timur - jumped in firing at Dan, at least he's seeming to do some active scumhunting with his content/tone of posts. Townie behavior, even if I disagree with his read on Dan atm.
I can't say the wagon on Dan is "driven" by maf since YS currently has the oldest vote on said wagon (I think)...but this tricycle seems misled imo. I still haven't liked anything YS has had to say, he's either maf or useless town.
Anyone else have anything they'd like me to address?
Not much info on Tvk, Alak more likely maf, less likely m/m. Zwiebel is doing active scumhunting...don't make me laugh.
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/13/16 at 11:52:57:I'll be around a bit longer before heading out for a while. I'll be back later in the evening to address anything that comes up during that time.
TvK, I'd still like to understand your posts against me better. You said Leone did no real scumhunting, but then said since I was his top scumread I'm worthy of more suspicion - I don't see how those 2 sentiments jive together. You also said I was trying to be purposely vague about Lewis (presumably to give myself an out if I were maf!John talking about town!Lewis? I'm guessing that's what you're going for?) even though I explicitly stated him with Michele as my scumreads.
Few posts discussing with Tvk, would m/m combo do this?
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/13/16 at 12:16:07:I really hated your approach to Dan on D1. It wasn't a genuine approach of trying to gather information, rather it was more of a bad trap. Here's how I viewed the sequence of events:
- You put pressure on Dan. This is fine and necessary, we're not going to learn about people without some pressure of course.
- Dan now has 3 options to respond to your pressure: defend, retaliate, or do nothing.
- Dan chooses to both defend AND retaliate.
- You scumread Dan. This is the part that I don't like - you can't just scumread somebody for responding to your pressure, he didn't have a choice but to respond to it.
Like I said, I don't like that approach at all - it doesn't seem like information gathering, it seems more like a witch hunt. Townies need to be in information gathering mode at all times, not witch hunt mode.
Not talking kind of Alak - less likely m/m
johnboy81918 wrote on 08/16/16 at 17:45:05:kyleb30 wrote on 08/16/16 at 17:38:55:I see we're basically at 4-4. John, do you know who you'll vote?
Until I'm persuaded otherwise, I plan to vote you. I wanted you or Michele to be the lynch today (I am still convinced you two are m/t), and the case against you is far better to me atm (also, no chance of Michele lynch today based on current wagons).
Voted kyle, setting up Alak for a mislynch? If Alak turns town, this adds up to Zwiebel-John theory
CONCLUSION:
As i said before, there was 1 great post from John on YS D1 which makes me think he is less likely maf. Kyle vite D3 doesn't help.
Alak/John m/m combo is impossible.
Paf/John very unlikely - i have to look more into it
TVk/John i don't think so - i have to look more into it
Most likely scum buddy is Zwiebel. If i had to chose another one right now it would be Tvk.
I need more time to study John.
I'm here. And boy, lynching Kyle was a bad mistake. But I guess the doc makes up for it.
I quoted this post because look at John's first post that Xoran quoted. It reads, "I don't think Dan's wagon was Maf lead, because YS was the one to start it."
Did I read that right? Is that soft protecting his scumbuddy YS? After that he tried to dismiss it by calling YS a Maf or noob town, but I think the damage was done. Iirc, YS never really talked about John, is that the smart player in the Maf group trying to save his buddy by telling YS never to really mention him? I find this interesting. John is looking pretty scummy right now.
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