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What was your toughest WR (or PR) to achieve?
06/17/16 at 04:57:52
 
I'm obviously no pro at SMK so there are many tracks where I'm most definitely using sub-optimal strats to obtain PRs for now.  For example VL2.  With my current strat it's not so difficult but if I implement the WR strategy then this course is by far the toughest in the game for me.
As of right now BC2 is giving me the most problems.  I want to sub 143 and I've been on pace for that dozens of times now but I always manage to shit all over a good race :/  BC2 in my opinion isn't so tricky but the sheer length of the course just leaves so many windows of opportunity to mess up.  By the time I reach the 4th lap my heart is trying to jump out of my chest lol.

I want to know everyone's most challenging PR and why Happy
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Re: What was your toughest WR (or PR) to achieve?
Reply #1 - 06/17/16 at 05:53:21
 
Very interesting question.

First of all, I think it's an universal law of the SMK universe that you are going to scrap many strong 5-laps. Just recently Karel crashed a potentially WR-shattering MC1 in non-NBT.

Now, the toughest of them all for me is MC1. Although the track is without doubt the simplest (by far?) of the game, there is so much competition that my PRs are the worst ranked for me, although I spent the most time on it, and the standards I have achieved are the highest (after GV1).
Even at my level, a single suboptimal turn will scrap the run.

Apart from MC1, I have to say I dislike the BCs in general, in reverse order, meaning that I dislike BC3  more than BC2 more than BC1, essentially because of the thwomps (and as you mentioned, the sheer length makes them hard). In BC3 they block your way completely at times (urban legend says you can pass at the left...) and in BC2 those 4 thwomps extend considerably the left turn.
Of course the bumber jumps are also a nuisance, I only make about half of them right now.

I also dislike having to work on GV1 because the PLJ has a comparatively high failure rate, so most 5-lap attempts end in the void. For GV2 the PLJ gains even less (I believe) so I won't be attempting it for a long time. Thankfully the PLJ on GV3 is easier to do (at least at my level, where the jumps over the subsequent corners are not too critical, unlike what Karel mentioned recently).

> By the time I reach the 4th lap my heart is trying to jump out of my chest lol.
Most times the adrenaline does this to me any time I'm ahead of my PR. But on rare occasions I'm in a confident zen state where nothing bad can happen to me. This was the case last week when after intense training (for me! i.e. a few hours) I *knew* I was going to beat my MC1 5-lap, and I did, by a good 0"10.

Of course for other races like VL2 I obviously stick to simpler strats, so it's not too much of a problem.
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Reply #2 - 06/17/16 at 07:22:42
 
I spent a few years going for the kb1 non-nbt wr.  I could consistently (consistently for kb1) get mid 48 races but couldn't quite get the wr.  Then i finally did it and beat the wr by .2.  

Now my opener wr kb1 non-nbt might be my best achievement.
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Reply #3 - 06/17/16 at 09:00:19
 
Sami allowed me to answer for him :

All MC1 5-laps
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Reply #4 - 06/17/16 at 09:10:28
 
BC2. I spent the better chunk of two days trying to get that time under 1'40. In all honesty, I never found it to be that bad of a track, but once you start forcing yourself to drive under the inside thwomp of the wall each lap, taking the right hand path at the second junction, and NBT-ing nearly every turn while trying to stay tight, it gets pretty frustrating. Add to those the fact that you have to hop all those jump bars and relatively wide lava pits just before the final turn, resulting in more concrete drowns than I care to remember, you get one painful track. It was well worth it once I reached my goal and I had a time that was tied for #6 at the time.

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Reply #5 - 06/17/16 at 10:34:50
 
Well the jump bars are definitely my biggest problem at the moment.  I've definitely put a solid 20 hours into this course over the last 3 or 4 days and I'm gonna hang it up after I break my current PR (1'43"36).  Needless to say I'm looking forward to racing NTSC because I feel that the whole jump bar issue won't be as much of an issue due to the increased speed.

@ Tyler

During the period when you set the KB1 world record were you also running other courses as well or were you only focusing on KB1?

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Which of your world records were the most time consuming for you on PAL and NTSC?
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Reply #6 - 06/17/16 at 12:52:22
 
I'm really digging this topic Matt.  Smiley

I would have to say my GV2 5 lap due to the plat jumps, I think I have only made a 5/5 3 times in my entire career, with plenty of 4/5's until  the final lap......

If you consider how sub optimally I take CI2 I guess that could be argued that is my toughest achievement with the sub 1:04.
Hopefully I can say the same about RR or VL2 in the future, I really suck at those two, and I'm not afraid to say it.

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Reply #7 - 06/17/16 at 13:27:07
 
I feel like I have devoted a roughly equal amount of time towards each of my NTSC PRs, but the ones I'd have the hardest time reproducing would have to be BC1 5lap, and also GV2 5lap. In the case of BC1, I was merely aiming for mid-1'27" and shocked myself with a low-1'27". The latter was actually non-NBT and driven in 2009 with a lucky 3-PJ streak (I was trying for a flap record). I really felt as if I punched above my weight when I got both of these PRs.

As far as the PR most frustrating to achieve, good candidates are BC2 5lap (for the reasons Dan explained), and even GV1 5lap. I'm just not that good at getting 5/5 PJ even in NTSC NBT. I could even put MC2 5lap in the running because you have to make 5/5 LB.

In PAL, I haven't really spent as much time or effort as on NTSC, but BC3 5lap is particularly frustrating in PAL (as anybody who has messed up on the jump bars can attest). It isn't easy on NTSC either, but at least the jump bars aren't going to throw you into the lava there.
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Reply #8 - 06/17/16 at 14:09:07
 
This is very hard to answer seeing I really spent my time roughly equally across the courses over the years. Of course there are periods of weeks where I focus only on specific tracks, but I've never been able to sustain that longer than a month.
Toughest WR to achieve might have been the All Cups speedrun then, as that's the only project I've worked on for longer periods of time, leading up to AGDQ. Then again, it's not very maxed at all, so it feels weird to answer that.

I remember MC1 flap 11"36 took me a long time as well, because unlike Sami, I have to listen to the SMK laws of physics and can't finish building my boost in less than the required number of frames.  Tongue
Going for any Koopa Beach 5-laps is generally a complete pain in the ass as well.
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Reply #9 - 06/17/16 at 14:58:15
 
I had a battle with the fish on KB1 as well. I remember writing lengthy entries detailing the pain and anguish I felt while trying to break the 47 second barrier. It was a great feeling when it finally happened.  Smiley
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Reply #10 - 06/17/16 at 15:18:08
 
Humanoidgale wrote on 06/17/16 at 10:34:50:
Well the jump bars are definitely my biggest problem at the moment.  I've definitely put a solid 20 hours into this course over the last 3 or 4 days and I'm gonna hang it up after I break my current PR (1'43"36).  Needless to say I'm looking forward to racing NTSC because I feel that the whole jump bar issue won't be as much of an issue due to the increased speed.

@ Tyler

During the period when you set the KB1 world record were you also running other courses as well or were you only focusing on KB1?

@ Guillaume

Which of your world records were the most time consuming for you on PAL and NTSC?


When i played (not much) from like 2011-2014 i played 90% kb1.  Late 2014 i decided i was really going to go for the wr and i got it.  Then i decided to go after US records and play the courses i didn't like.  I hated mc4, but i eventually ran a sub 18 lap a realized that i was way better than i thought i was and i could really pass Joe.  

Now i'm in a lull, not wanting to play mc3 or ci1 among others.  Eventually i will set a new wr on kb1 to get my motivation back.  


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Reply #11 - 06/18/16 at 10:24:16
 
Even though I'm STILL not on the PP...wish I did though...I would say Jamie White's VL1 5lap CR will be the toughest yet (48"83 Non-NBT)...I need some more hours of SMK Embarrassed

Hardest WR is probably Karel's GV1 flap 11"65 (honorable mentions to Sami's MC1 5lap and flap & Tyler's KB1 5lap) Smiley

My hardest PR is probably my BC3 flap...idk why Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - 06/18/16 at 10:46:38
 
AfroKart wrote on 06/18/16 at 10:24:16:
Even though I'm STILL not never gong to be on the PP


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Reply #13 - 06/18/16 at 11:06:33
 
AfroKart wrote on 06/18/16 at 10:24:16:
My hardest PR is probably my BC3 flap...idk why Roll Eyes


Terrence, I wonder what was your toughest TAS to achieve?
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Reply #14 - 06/18/16 at 14:02:54
 
Speaking only about WRs, I'd say MC2 PAL NBT 5-lap run, followed by the BC2 one.

I'll give a more detailed answer later, don't really have the time at the moment.
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