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Reply #50 - 06/12/16 at 16:34:29
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:10:43:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 14:58:05:
If you were the current mission leader, who would you propose for the first mission at this point, Zac?


It'll be a lot easier to have the others who haven't posted already to post so i can have a better look at them.... But, if i were the Mission Leader and were to make a team for a mission, it'll not be much different from TYG's list but exchanging me for Sam F to see what would happen between them and hopefully, get some info...


Did you not read my conversation with TYG? Do you think the mission will pass if you three go together? Do you think people will accept this proposal in the first place? And how important do you find the first mission? Do you mainly want to gather as much information as possible? Or do you think the most important thing is that the first mission passes?
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Reply #51 - 06/12/16 at 17:48:21
 
Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:11:42:
Okay, I can participate now.
I find TvK as a Resistance with the reasons shown, and Sam as either Spy or a lazy Resistance because he is playing like he usually is in other Mafia games.
Leone and the others I have no idea yet, but the game has barely started and it is hard to get leads early in.


How do you expect to get good leans then? By sitting back and waiting for your spybuddies to fail the missions? If you don't have any leads, why don't you start asking questions to these people you don't have a lean on yet? For example, what do you think of TYG's comment about you? What do you think of Zwiebel's observations of TYG? What do you think about the presumed proposals that people have shared already? Which proposal that Leone could make will have the highest chance of being accepted by the rest of the group?
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Reply #52 - 06/12/16 at 20:03:48
 
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 16:34:29:
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:10:43:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 14:58:05:
If you were the current mission leader, who would you propose for the first mission at this point, Zac?


It'll be a lot easier to have the others who haven't posted already to post so i can have a better look at them.... But, if i were the Mission Leader and were to make a team for a mission, it'll not be much different from TYG's list but exchanging me for Sam F to see what would happen between them and hopefully, get some info...


Did you not read my conversation with TYG? Do you think the mission will pass if you three go together? Do you think people will accept this proposal in the first place?


Yes, so far i have read most of the posts so far since it isn't 200-300, Hence the last 2 mafs.
I personally beleive the mission would fail since the we dont know anything about anyone yet and that causes the voting to be thrown out of the blue with out further knowledge of anyone else and what side they are playing on.
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Reply #53 - 06/12/16 at 20:07:05
 
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 16:34:29:
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:10:43:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 14:58:05:
If you were the current mission leader, who would you propose for the first mission at this point, Zac?


It'll be a lot easier to have the others who haven't posted already to post so i can have a better look at them.... But, if i were the Mission Leader and were to make a team for a mission, it'll not be much different from TYG's list but exchanging me for Sam F to see what would happen between them and hopefully, get some info...


And how important do you find the first mission? Do you mainly want to gather as much information as possible? Or do you think the most important thing is that the first mission passes?


The first mission could be the most important but also could lead us to nothing since it could fail....

I'd like to both; gather infomation about anyone and make sure the missions pass since both of these stratagies are extremly useful........
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Reply #54 - 06/12/16 at 20:08:14
 
TvK, is Passing the mission or gathering information important for you?
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Reply #55 - 06/12/16 at 20:21:22
 
Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:11:42:
Okay, I can participate now.
I find TvK as a Resistance with the reasons shown, and Sam as either Spy or a lazy Resistance because he is playing like he usually is in other Mafia games.
Leone and the others I have no idea yet, but the game has barely started and it is hard to get leads early in.


What would you expect on the first opening hours of this game? Tongue
What are your thoughts on the posts happening right now? is tvk or tyg a good choice for the proposals?
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Reply #56 - 06/12/16 at 20:27:31
 
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 17:48:21:
Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:11:42:
Okay, I can participate now.
I find TvK as a Resistance with the reasons shown, and Sam as either Spy or a lazy Resistance because he is playing like he usually is in other Mafia games.
Leone and the others I have no idea yet, but the game has barely started and it is hard to get leads early in.


How do you expect to get good leans then? By sitting back and waiting for your spybuddies to fail the missions? If you don't have any leads, why don't you start asking questions to these people you don't have a lean on yet? For example, what do you think of TYG's comment about you? What do you think of Zwiebel's observations of TYG? What do you think about the presumed proposals that people have shared already? Which proposal that Leone could make will have the highest chance of being accepted by the rest of the group?

I find TYG's comments of me hesitant, that he wants to figure out my alignment w/o messing up like the Mafia Game we just had where I turned out to be resistance. (And yes, I understand there is no lynching). On Zweibel's comments on TYG, I feel like he is trying hard to hunt down who is who by looking through everything. I am getting vibes of resistance instead of Spy, but honestly, it's to early to tell.
As for the mission ideas sent out, the Leone, TvK, TYG group sounds like the best idea so far, and Is go with that. Before I concoct a plan for a mission, I have a question for the mks johnboy: Do we know how many people vote for a mission to fail when the plan is sent out? And for the last question of yours, I feel a TvK, Leone and TYG mission will get the most support.
I have some questions for a few people:
TYG: What do you think of Zweibel? He has you on his scum leans. How do you feel about that?
Zac: How do you think we can gather info on a successful mission? Of we want it to succeed, what should we do in your opinion?
Zweibel: You said TYG might be linked to TvK, how do you feel about TvK himself when not compared to TYG?

I believe that is all I have for the moment.
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Reply #57 - 06/12/16 at 20:28:26
 
In my last posy, I meant to say mod johnboy, not mks johnboy. Roll Eyes Tongue
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Reply #58 - 06/12/16 at 20:30:35
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:07:05:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 16:34:29:
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:10:43:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 14:58:05:
If you were the current mission leader, who would you propose for the first mission at this point, Zac?


It'll be a lot easier to have the others who haven't posted already to post so i can have a better look at them.... But, if i were the Mission Leader and were to make a team for a mission, it'll not be much different from TYG's list but exchanging me for Sam F to see what would happen between them and hopefully, get some info...


And how important do you find the first mission? Do you mainly want to gather as much information as possible? Or do you think the most important thing is that the first mission passes?


The first mission could be the most important but also could lead us to nothing since it could fail....

I'd like to both; gather infomation about anyone and make sure the missions pass since both of these stratagies are extremly useful........


Also, in order to know who to send on the mission, we need the info but the only possible way to get to it is by looking to see if the missions pass or not......   this starts to become confusing when we have no idea whatsoever right now on what is more important....
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Reply #59 - 06/12/16 at 20:31:13
 
Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:28:26:
In my last posy, I meant to say mod johnboy, not mks johnboy. Roll Eyes Tongue


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Reply #60 - 06/12/16 at 20:35:59
 
Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:27:31:
Before I concoct a plan for a mission, I have a question for the mks johnboy: Do we know how many people vote for a mission to fail when the plan is sent out?

Yes, I will announce how many passes and fails are submitted. I will NOT announce who submitted which, obviously.

Keep in mind that ONE fail submission results in mission failure, aka spy point. The only exception is mission 4, which requires TWO fail submissions in order for the spies to gain a point.
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Reply #61 - 06/12/16 at 20:40:39
 
@Racer727 (Kyle H.) There is little info we could gather from a successful mission but if there were to be info gathered from it, it'd probably be  info about the ones sent and were successful... the people on the teams that were would have a high trust rating and would be a good pick for further missions ahead....


If we wanted to succeed, we should use the players we would think would be the best to pass but, we could send the least helpful and least information giving people to see what other info we get out of them and what would work best with that..
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Reply #62 - 06/12/16 at 20:41:41
 
johnboy81918 wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:35:59:
Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:27:31:
Before I concoct a plan for a mission, I have a question for the mks johnboy: Do we know how many people vote for a mission to fail when the plan is sent out?

Yes, I will announce how many passes and fails are submitted. I will NOT announce who submitted which, obviously.

Keep in mind that ONE fail submission results in mission failure, aka spy point. The only exception is mission 4, which requires TWO fail submissions in order for the spies to gain a point.


Thanks Tongue i also needed that clarification
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Reply #63 - 06/12/16 at 21:06:21
 
TIME UPDATE: We are slightly more than 8 hours into the game. Leone has just under 16 hours to submit his 3 person proposal, due by 4:46pm EDT.

I am about to go to bed, so I'm gonna leave this announcement here just so things are clear. Whenever the proposal is posted, a new 24 hour clock will begin, by which all players must submit their votes to me via PM to approve or reject the proposal. You DO NOT need to wait for me to post anything, once the proposal is posted you may immediately send the vote PMs. You are welcome to post openly in the thread about your intended votes if you wish, but the only official vote is the one I receive via PM. Once I've received everyone's votes, I will announce who voted to approve/reject, then move the game either back into proposal phase (if rejected) or into mission phase (if approved).
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Reply #64 - 06/13/16 at 01:05:06
 
We should all just lynch Vinnie Roll Eyes

Jokes aside, Ive read through everything and I can see the support to have TvK and TYG in the team.
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Reply #65 - 06/13/16 at 02:54:22
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:03:48:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 16:34:29:
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:10:43:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 14:58:05:
If you were the current mission leader, who would you propose for the first mission at this point, Zac?


It'll be a lot easier to have the others who haven't posted already to post so i can have a better look at them.... But, if i were the Mission Leader and were to make a team for a mission, it'll not be much different from TYG's list but exchanging me for Sam F to see what would happen between them and hopefully, get some info...


Did you not read my conversation with TYG? Do you think the mission will pass if you three go together? Do you think people will accept this proposal in the first place?


Yes, so far i have read most of the posts so far since it isn't 200-300, Hence the last 2 mafs.
I personally beleive the mission would fail since the we dont know anything about anyone yet and that causes the voting to be thrown out of the blue with out further knowledge of anyone else and what side they are playing on.


Since we don't know anything? But you still believe this mission would fail? Is it just me or does Zac seem to know that this mission is going to fail because one of his spybuddies is on it? And why do you think it won't give us any information? If the mission fails, we at least know that one those people is Spy.

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TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 16:34:29:
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:10:43:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 14:58:05:
If you were the current mission leader, who would you propose for the first mission at this point, Zac?


It'll be a lot easier to have the others who haven't posted already to post so i can have a better look at them.... But, if i were the Mission Leader and were to make a team for a mission, it'll not be much different from TYG's list but exchanging me for Sam F to see what would happen between them and hopefully, get some info...


And how important do you find the first mission? Do you mainly want to gather as much information as possible? Or do you think the most important thing is that the first mission passes?


The first mission could be the most important but also could lead us to nothing since it could fail....

I'd like to both; gather infomation about anyone and make sure the missions pass since both of these stratagies are extremly useful........


How many proposals do you want to have seen before you're comfortable with letting the mission go? How much information do you expect to get from voting patterns? And if Leone and my proposal doesn't go through, it's up to first Yoshistar and then Racer to make a proposal. Do you think they'll have a totally different proposal than Leone or me?
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Reply #66 - 06/13/16 at 02:57:01
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:30:35:
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:07:05:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 16:34:29:
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:10:43:
TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 14:58:05:
If you were the current mission leader, who would you propose for the first mission at this point, Zac?


It'll be a lot easier to have the others who haven't posted already to post so i can have a better look at them.... But, if i were the Mission Leader and were to make a team for a mission, it'll not be much different from TYG's list but exchanging me for Sam F to see what would happen between them and hopefully, get some info...


And how important do you find the first mission? Do you mainly want to gather as much information as possible? Or do you think the most important thing is that the first mission passes?


The first mission could be the most important but also could lead us to nothing since it could fail....

I'd like to both; gather infomation about anyone and make sure the missions pass since both of these stratagies are extremly useful........


Also, in order to know who to send on the mission, we need the info but the only possible way to get to it is by looking to see if the missions pass or not......   this starts to become confusing when we have no idea whatsoever right now on what is more important....


Try to get as much information as possible by talking and by voting patterns. The first priority is making sure we pass this first mission. The second priority is that if we manage fuck this first mission up, that we at least know which one of the people on the mission was the Spy.
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Reply #67 - 06/13/16 at 03:00:26
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 06/13/16 at 01:05:06:
We should all just lynch Vinnie Roll Eyes

Jokes aside, Ive read through everything and I can see the support to have TvK and TYG in the team.


Who else next to me and TYG? If Leone would submit a proposal with him, TYG and me? Would you approve this proposal? And if this proposal fails and I become mission leader, who would you recommend I would take along with TYG and myself?
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Reply #68 - 06/13/16 at 04:17:08
 
I'm not going on a mission with TvK unless Zweibel is on it. Zweibel and TvK are pretty much the strongest players, haven't seen Zweibel yet but I know he has past experience. I also have to resistance lean on Zweibel, and being the strong player that I think he is, I doubt either Zweibel or TvK would fail it in fear of being found out by the other unless they're both spies but even then they might pass it because of this speculation.

So I'd be willing to go on a mission with both Zweibel and TvK.
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Reply #69 - 06/13/16 at 04:24:46
 
I'm treading into WIFOM territory here, but what do you think would be the best play for Spies regarding the first mission? They only need to fail 3 missions to win this game. Don't you think they are willing to sacrifice one of them to make sure at least this first mission fails? Also, if we do manage to pass this first mission, how big do you think the chance is there was a Spy on board who voted PASS?

And which one of the 5 first mission leaders do you think is most likely to propose a mission with the three of us on it? At this point, would you vote no to any proposal that doesn't include all three of us? What if someone like Leone or Yoshistar proposes themself together with Zwiebel and me? Would you accept that proposal?
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Reply #70 - 06/13/16 at 04:29:54
 
FYI it's Zwiebel not Zweibel Tongue

I think either him or Leone along with you two.
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Reply #71 - 06/13/16 at 04:30:26
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:08:14:
TvK, is Passing the mission or gathering information important for you?


I don't think I had explicitly answered this question yet: passing the first mission automatically means that we have gathered a lot information. Passing the first mission itself gives us a lot of information. Well, it basically confirms that we're right about the information we had.

Just a quick question for you: how many proposals would you like to see before you plan on voting yes for one you're not on?
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Reply #72 - 06/13/16 at 04:32:53
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 06/13/16 at 04:29:54:
FYI it's Zwiebel not Zweibel Tongue

I think either him or Leone along with you two.


If Leone and I both propose a similar mission (3 from {Leone, Zwiebel, TYG, TvK}) and they both fail to get through, what would that tell you? And that would make you mission leader. Would you still try to propose a similar mission? Or would you try something completely different?
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Reply #73 - 06/13/16 at 05:53:00
 
Quick post, Im still at University but Im Reading everything, I'll post Detailed Analysis when  back at home in ~3 hours, just don't make an early proposal
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Reply #74 - 06/13/16 at 07:03:11
 
LewisRichards wrote on 06/13/16 at 04:17:08:
I'm not going on a mission with TvK unless Zweibel is on it. Zweibel and TvK are pretty much the strongest players, haven't seen Zweibel yet but I know he has past experience. I also have to resistance lean on Zweibel, and being the strong player that I think he is, I doubt either Zweibel or TvK would fail it in fear of being found out by the other unless they're both spies but even then they might pass it because of this speculation.

So I'd be willing to go on a mission with both Zweibel and TvK.


Why would you want to only go on a mission with these two? How do we know you aren't just wanting to go with the two on whom you have strong resistance leans and passing that mission, specifically to validate yourself and draw attention elsewhere? This whole strategy of piggy-backing with the players you deem strongest seems fishy to me.

If the goal is to pass this mission, then I'm leaning toward selecting myself, Zwiebel, and TvK, as their posts give me resistance leans on them. However, if the goal is to gather as much info as possible, then I'm thinking we should send TvK/myself, along with TYG and someone other than Zwiebel. If we're willing to sacrifice this mission (which I personally think is too risky a strategy, but I could be swayed otherwise), then sending TvK/myself, TvK/TYG, someone like Racer/YS would tell us much more, because I believe a more experienced spy (not TYG/YS) would be better able to divert attention from themselves in the post-mission investigations which would ensue if the mission fails, therefore confusing our efforts to pass future missions.
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