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TvK NinjaTvK Offline helped 5510 people Belgium Gender:	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #150 - 06/13/16 at 16:53:42 Racer you have been awfully quite for the latter half of the day. Same goes for Sam. Don't you guys have anything to say about what is going on? For fuck's sake, Leone didn't even nominate you guys on the first proposal. Don't you guys have anything to say about that?
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TvK NinjaTvK Offline 5510 days karting Belgium Gender:	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #151 - 06/13/16 at 16:56:17 Yoshistar™ wrote on 06/13/16 at 12:56:59: Got my vote Oh wait..... this isn't KC Why is this proposal the right one on your eyes? Why don't you want to be on the first proposal? Which one of the people in this proposal is your spybuddy?
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Reply #152 - 06/13/16 at 16:58:15

Yoshistar™ wrote on 06/13/16 at 10:25:33:

Hi guys, sorry for not being active, I have a new job, so it took some free time away lol

Anyway, I can't really tell from the conversations here what to think of, TYG seems to not trust TvK, but Zwiebel is good. Leone also suspicious?

For my thoughts about it, there's at least one spy in this active conversation, Zwiebel, TvK, TYG or Leone. Maybe even two?
I still don't know what my proposal will be, really depends on what will happen with Leone's team.

Okay, this guy even says there is at least one spy, if not two in these four players. Three of these players are in the current proposal, and still Yoshistar is going to vote to let this proposal pass? Is there anyone who has any argument as to why this guy isn't a Spy?

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #153 - 06/13/16 at 16:58:30 No one is going to vote for a me, racer, Zwiebel proposal right now. I'm also not influential enough to change that. I still think the you, Zwiebel, leone mission will pass so that's why I voted for it. I can still change my mind as long as it's within the 24 hours I'm pretty sure.
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Reply #154 - 06/13/16 at 16:58:40

Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 20:27:31:

TvK wrote on 06/12/16 at 17:48:21:

Racer727 wrote on 06/12/16 at 15:11:42:

Okay, I can participate now.
I find TvK as a Resistance with the reasons shown, and Sam as either Spy or a lazy Resistance because he is playing like he usually is in other Mafia games.
Leone and the others I have no idea yet, but the game has barely started and it is hard to get leads early in.

How do you expect to get good leans then? By sitting back and waiting for your spybuddies to fail the missions? If you don't have any leads, why don't you start asking questions to these people you don't have a lean on yet? For example, what do you think of TYG's comment about you? What do you think of Zwiebel's observations of TYG? What do you think about the presumed proposals that people have shared already? Which proposal that Leone could make will have the highest chance of being accepted by the rest of the group?

I find TYG's comments of me hesitant, that he wants to figure out my alignment w/o messing up like the Mafia Game we just had where I turned out to be resistance. (And yes, I understand there is no lynching). On Zweibel's comments on TYG, I feel like he is trying hard to hunt down who is who by looking through everything. I am getting vibes of resistance instead of Spy, but honestly, it's to early to tell.
As for the mission ideas sent out, the Leone, TvK, TYG group sounds like the best idea so far, and Is go with that. Before I concoct a plan for a mission, I have a question for the mks johnboy: Do we know how many people vote for a mission to fail when the plan is sent out? And for the last question of yours, I feel a TvK, Leone and TYG mission will get the most support.
I have some questions for a few people:
TYG: What do you think of Zweibel? He has you on his scum leans. How do you feel about that?
Zac: How do you think we can gather info on a successful mission? Of we want it to succeed, what should we do in your opinion?
Zweibel: You said TYG might be linked to TvK, how do you feel about TvK himself when not compared to TYG?

I believe that is all I have for the moment.

Bringing this up because no one has answered my questions.
About the mission, I found it to have a good chance of passing because Zwiebel and TvK are on my giving me Resistance vibes. I'm still not sure about Leone, but considering he is putting two of the strongest players 38th him, he is either
Resistance (Likely) - Helping the team pass the first mission.
Spy (Unlikely) - This would mean that TvK and Zwiebel are spy buddies, or else Leone is trying to pull one over us

I still haven't got a decent read on Leone as I just said, so I don't know which is the case, but I'm leaning towards Leone is a Resistance member because it would put spies in a bad spot being down by one, and because Leone couldn't keep pretending to be Resistance, because then the spies will lose.

Does this make sense? I kind of made a confusing run-on sentence at the end of this post.

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #155 - 06/13/16 at 16:59:45 My argument is YS is his normal fluffy self as mafia. We can't be sure though.
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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #156 - 06/13/16 at 17:02:28 It wouldn't be bad for spies to be down one to convince the rebels that they are also resistance. They could get multiple missions to fail out of one success.
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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #157 - 06/13/16 at 17:05:11 Keep in mind that for the interactions between me and Vinnie during mafia game 2 YS said one of us had to be maf as a town player. Same thing could be happening here, although I still have spy leans on TvK and Leone.
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Reply #158 - 06/13/16 at 17:05:13

LewisRichards wrote on 06/13/16 at 16:58:30:

No one is going to vote for a me, racer, Zwiebel proposal right now. I'm also not influential enough to change that. I still think the you, Zwiebel, leone mission will pass so that's why I voted for it. I can still change my mind as long as it's within the 24 hours I'm pretty sure.

johnboy81918 wrote on 06/13/16 at 13:06:31:

Leone wrote on 06/13/16 at 13:03:08:

@John are votes final once cast, or can they be changed?

I will accept changes, however all votes will be locked once I have a vote from every player.

Fant0m wrote on 12/17/11 at 15:59:31:

You could also do it just because you enjoyed hopping for no reason.

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Reply #159 - 06/13/16 at 17:05:28

TvK wrote on 06/13/16 at 16:56:17:

Yoshistar™ wrote on 06/13/16 at 12:56:59:

Got my vote

Oh wait..... this isn't KC Smiley

Why is this proposal the right one on your eyes? Why don't you want to be on the first proposal? Which one of the people in this proposal is your spybuddy?

Why are you pushing everyone? Don't you like the current mission?
I voted for this mission because 2/3 (Zwiebel and you TvK) are Resistance in my eyes, and Leone I'm leaning towards Resistance.

Because you will probably ask why I see you and Zwiebel as Resistance in my eyes, here are my explanations.
TvK: Being the agressor, going after everyone to find anything you can. It is not impossible that you are a spy, but you played like this the last two games and I feel like you haven't changed.
Zweibel: He has gone after the scummy bits, and has questioned TYG who looks like a spy to me. Not much else to say really, but so far he hasn't given me anything scummy about him, so I feel like he is Resistance.

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #160 - 06/13/16 at 17:08:43 I don't know why I feel like this but I feel like me and Zwiebel are the only ones with genuine reads and everyone else is either not active/specific, sheep, or spy.
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Reply #161 - 06/13/16 at 17:08:45

Racer727 wrote on 06/13/16 at 16:58:40:

About the mission, I found it to have a good chance of passing because Zwiebel and TvK are on my giving me Resistance vibes. I'm still not sure about Leone, but considering he is putting two of the strongest players 38th him, he is either
Resistance (Likely) - Helping the team pass the first mission.
Spy (Unlikely) - This would mean that TvK and Zwiebel are spy buddies, or else Leone is trying to pull one over us

I still haven't got a decent read on Leone as I just said, so I don't know which is the case, but I'm leaning towards Leone is a Resistance member because it would put spies in a bad spot being down by one, and because Leone couldn't keep pretending to be Resistance, because then the spies will lose.

Does this make sense? I kind of made a confusing run-on sentence at the end of this post.

If there's even one person in the proposal that you're not sure about, why would you let this mission pass? Does everybody think this is a game of chance? We have 5(!) chances to select the correct first mission. Why does everyone assume that the first of these five will be the correct one? Racer, you will even be the 4th mission leader of the first mission. Why would you want to accept this mission if you know you've got the chance to assemble your own team when it's your chance?

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Reply #162 - 06/13/16 at 17:09:57

TvK wrote on 06/13/16 at 16:53:42:

Racer you have been awfully quite for the latter half of the day. Same goes for Sam. Don't you guys have anything to say about what is going on? For fuck's sake, Leone didn't even nominate you guys on the first proposal. Don't you guys have anything to say about that?

Well, if you were to put me on the mission, you could argue that I passed it to look Resistance and I still won't be out of the water if I keep quiet. With the current proposal, most everyone thinks this will pass because the players seem Resistance.

Basically, I feel that if I were on the mission, it could be bad. (Or good if you still think I'm a spy. Tongue

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Reply #163 - 06/13/16 at 17:10:25

[quote author=784A5F567B330 link=1465443525/150#159 date=1465866328
I voted for this mission because 2/3 (Zwiebel and you TvK) are Resistance in my eyes, and Leone I'm leaning towards Resistance. [/quote]

To add to this. Which mission do you think has the highest chance of passing?
1. Leone, Zwiebel, TvK?
2. Racer, Zwiebel, TvK?

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Reply #164 - 06/13/16 at 17:11:31

LewisRichards wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:08:43:

I don't know why I feel like this but I feel like me and Zwiebel are the only ones with genuine reads and everyone else is either not active/specific, sheep, or spy.

I don't know why I feel like this but this feels to me like a possible s/s and Zwiebel going after TYG was just bussing.

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Reply #165 - 06/13/16 at 17:12:42

LewisRichards wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:08:43:

I don't know why I feel like this but I feel like me and Zwiebel are the only ones with genuine reads and everyone else is either not active/specific, sheep, or spy.

Why the hell would you want any proposal to be accepted if you're not on it? Which one of these two proposals will give you the most information, for example?

1. Leone, Zwiebel, TvK (2 PASS, 1 FAIL)
2. Zwiebel, TYG, TvK (2 PASS, 1 FAIL)

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TvK NinjaTvK Offline 5510 holabolas Belgium Gender:	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #166 - 06/13/16 at 17:13:53 Botched the quote in my post 163, but that was obviously aimed at Racer.
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Reply #167 - 06/13/16 at 17:14:14

TvK wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:10:25:

[quote author=784A5F567B330 link=1465443525/150#159 date=1465866328
I voted for this mission because 2/3 (Zwiebel and you TvK) are Resistance in my eyes, and Leone I'm leaning towards Resistance.

To add to this. Which mission do you think has the highest chance of passing?
1. Leone, Zwiebel, TvK?
2. Racer, Zwiebel, TvK? [/quote]
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Jokes aside though, I feel that the first one is more likely to pass because people are agreeing that you 3 are Resistance (Going to abbreviate to R from now on) while some people still find me a but scummy.

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Reply #168 - 06/13/16 at 17:17:24

TvK wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:08:45:

Racer727 wrote on 06/13/16 at 16:58:40:

About the mission, I found it to have a good chance of passing because Zwiebel and TvK are on my giving me Resistance vibes. I'm still not sure about Leone, but considering he is putting two of the strongest players 38th him, he is either
Resistance (Likely) - Helping the team pass the first mission.
Spy (Unlikely) - This would mean that TvK and Zwiebel are spy buddies, or else Leone is trying to pull one over us

I still haven't got a decent read on Leone as I just said, so I don't know which is the case, but I'm leaning towards Leone is a Resistance member because it would put spies in a bad spot being down by one, and because Leone couldn't keep pretending to be Resistance, because then the spies will lose.

Does this make sense? I kind of made a confusing run-on sentence at the end of this post.

If there's even one person in the proposal that you're not sure about, why would you let this mission pass? Does everybody think this is a game of chance? We have 5(!) chances to select the correct first mission. Why does everyone assume that the first of these five will be the correct one? Racer, you will even be the 4th mission leader of the first mission. Why would you want to accept this mission if you know you've got the chance to assemble your own team when it's your chance?

Because the esembled team are the only people that I feel are R.
I don't believe that I could assemble a more accepted team.
This is the only group that I feel will work out best for us in the long run.

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TvK NinjaTvK Offline 5510 days karting Belgium Gender:	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #169 - 06/13/16 at 17:19:15 Okay, last chance: in percentages, how sure are you that the following people are rebels? Leone Zwiebel Racer TvK
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Reply #170 - 06/13/16 at 17:22:41

Racer727 wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:14:14:

TvK wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:10:25:

[quote author=784A5F567B330 link=1465443525/150#159 date=1465866328
I voted for this mission because 2/3 (Zwiebel and you TvK) are Resistance in my eyes, and Leone I'm leaning towards Resistance.

To add to this. Which mission do you think has the highest chance of passing?
1. Leone, Zwiebel, TvK?
2. Racer, Zwiebel, TvK?

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Jokes aside though, I feel that the first one is more likely to pass because people are agreeing that you 3 are Resistance (Going to abbreviate to R from now on) while some people still find me a but scummy. [/quote]

You basically just said you're spy by saying that someone you're not sure about replacing you has a higher chance of passing, luckily we've seen you say the same kind of things in mafia so we can assume this is resistance rather than a spy slip.

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Reply #171 - 06/13/16 at 17:24:37

TvK wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:12:42:

LewisRichards wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:08:43:

I don't know why I feel like this but I feel like me and Zwiebel are the only ones with genuine reads and everyone else is either not active/specific, sheep, or spy.

Why the hell would you want any proposal to be accepted if you're not on it? Which one of these two proposals will give you the most information, for example?

1. Leone, Zwiebel, TvK (2 PASS, 1 FAIL)
2. Zwiebel, TYG, TvK (2 PASS, 1 FAIL)

Obviously I would get more information from #2 but I'm working I would be framed if it did fail at the same time which would render the information I've gathered useless if everyone thinks I'm the spy.

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Reply #172 - 06/13/16 at 17:29:36

[quote author=0E27352B31102B212A23302631420 link=1465443525/150#171 date=1465867477]TvK wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:12:42:

LewisRichards wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:08:43:

Which one of these two proposals will give you the most information, for example?

1. Leone, Zwiebel, TvK (2 PASS, 1 FAIL)
2. Zwiebel, TYG, TvK (2 PASS, 1 FAIL)

Obviously I would get more information from #2

This alone should give you enough reason to reject the first proposal. And why the hell are you afraid to get framed? If you are a rebel, you've got nothing to hide. If you use logic and pure intelligence, don't you think you should be able to convince the other rebels that you are one of them? And if some people would try to push you even further into this caught spy role, wouldn't that ive you more information about the presumed spy team?

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theyounggun Ex Member	Re: Resistance! M1.1: Resistance 0 - Spies 0 Reply #173 - 06/13/16 at 17:36:05 If everyone thinks I'm spy the information I'll have about the spies will be useless. I'm definitely not an influential person lol I could probably be easily framed.
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Reply #174 - 06/13/16 at 17:43:40

LewisRichards wrote on 06/13/16 at 17:36:05:

If everyone thinks I'm spy the information I'll have about the spies will be useless. I'm definitely not an influential person lol I could probably be easily framed.

Is this your attitude? If you're in a mission with two others and one FAIL is submitted, will you have the same attitude as now? Will you just sit there and expect people to call you a spy and do nothing? I really hope you are a Spy at this point, because you're playing so anti-rebel.

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