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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #851 - 05/31/16 at 13:56:22

By the way everyone, it's silly to suggest that Shock should have outright claimed cop yesterday to get protection. If you read the rules the mafia roleblocker doesn't have to switch targets every night - the mafia could have chosen to keep Shock alive intentionally and roleblock him every night so that he was able to gain no information about who is mafia and who is town.

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Reply #852 - 05/31/16 at 13:58:18

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/28/16 at 19:02:41:

This is kinda funny… Honko is going in kinda hard on Vinnie. We’ve seen this before in Shock’s game… with TvK. Both of them ended up being town. I don’t think anything too scummy is going on here, but Honko gives me the feeling of being one of those experienced players who is scary to play against if they’re mafia. So I guess I’ll try to keep my eye on him. Actually, question: Honko, what’s your experience with the game? You probably have a bunch of games under your belt, yeah?

While “this is how I post as town!” may not be a good argument, Vinnie’s play is looking similar to what he did in Shock’s game to me and he was town there, so I’m not willing to jump the gun on him right now.

It’s 5am here what am I doing awake… I’m going to sleep.

This posts gives alak a little town equity, as well as m/m equity with honko, (although I don't think honko is maf at this time)

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:24:46:

[vote]Sam F[/vote]
Based off of last day. Will read new pages and reply again

Glad to know nothing's changed vinnie.

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/31/16 at 10:31:29:

Darius asks a lot of questions but says little himself. I don’t know what to think about that. Seems scummy to me.

Mind telling us about your reads, Darius?

Asking Q's is good, you can get reads from other people. different points of views.

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You are TOWN Doctor. Every night you may submit the name of someone you would like to protect. That person will be immune to dying on the night you protect them. You cannot protect the same person on consecutive nights, and you cannot protect yourself.

You win when all of the members of the mafia are dead.

Ok, any thoughts concerning shock will be covered in post game.

no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 10:47:30:

Lafungo wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:11:45:

no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:07:20:

Tell me Lafungo, am i still paranoid?

With regards to what?

I was referring to this post:

Lafungo wrote on 05/29/16 at 15:47:50:

LewisRichards wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:04:19:

Of course his posting style would change if he was maf, he's under suspicion. I spent the whole last game as maf trying to adapt. I'm not saying racer is maf even though I think he is. I'm just pointing out that I can see him change his style both ways.

You're "not saying Racer is maf even though you think he is"? Be less commital, please.
Also, if you "can see him change his style both ways", why do you think he's mafia?

no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:04:45:

i think mafia is too powerful this game

I'm confused by this. Are you saying that you think this setup is imbalanced towards mafia? I hope you realize that Shock's game heavily favored town and shouldn't be used as a measuring stick for the fairness of other setups. Mafia being able to discuss privately at all times is the norm, and conditional 2 KP (kill power) is fairly common in larger games, especially with a better town-mafia ratio (3:1 is good for town).
I didn't bother responding to this topic earlier because it doesn't pertain directly to the game itself, but I feel like it's necessary to do so now given Zoran's strange insistence on bringing it up repeatedly. I have the nagging feeling it could be a demoralizing/redirecting tactic, but I'll attribute that to paranoia for now.

How do you feel about town chances now? Do you still think i went over the top?

Lafungo wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:30:20:

My main concern with a Zarkov lynch is that he'd be a much bigger loss for town than any of the people I listed in my last post. While lynching him would give something to work with going into D2, I feel like a Sam lynch, for example, would work just as well and would only cost town a body at worst.

I still want to lynch Racer, but if that's not possible (and it's seeming increasingly likely), then I intend to switch my vote to Sam.

Do you still feel like this?

Only reason you wouldn't lynch Zarkov is his experience?
Is there something else?
He has been going for you for some time now, what do you think of that?

Honko was a town read on most people including shock, but he is nowhere to be found. What do you think of him?

Racer was your main target D1, now that he is gone do you have some other leans? maf/town?

I think the whole Maf is OP statement is null for fungo, townish for nocontrol. A lot of times Town is given only 3 or so mislynches before the game ends, the stupid mistakes of one person doesn't make the setup uneven. (it does make it more maf sided but thats due to rubbish play

LewisRichards wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:54:16:

I'm definitely on board to lynch Sam, it could tell us things about Lafungo possibly. Although first post is often a joke. Remember it's also our turn with the Vig so we want as much time as possible to figure out 2 good lynch candidates so we definitely shouldn't end the day no matter how certain we are of Sam.

No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

lynching sam just for lafungo is poor, and given that lafungo is more likely T/M with sam, a town sam flip won't help us in anything information wise

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #853 - 05/31/16 at 13:59:17

DansGame wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:56:22:

By the way everyone, it's silly to suggest that Shock should have outright claimed cop yesterday to get protection. If you read the rules the mafia roleblocker doesn't have to switch targets every night - the mafia could have chosen to keep Shock alive intentionally and roleblock him every night so that he was able to gain no information about who is mafia and who is town.

^this. (+doctor as well)

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #854 - 05/31/16 at 14:03:37

kyleb30 wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:27:32:

There's one major problem with this theory. Mafia just killed 2 players that would have been among the primary suspects. If there's mafia in the racer group, they just increased the odds of us finding them D2 and beyond. The only 2 things that would make this make sense is if either the mafia was very inexperienced and wanted to get strong players out ASAP, or if there was only 1 of them in this group and they were ok with that trade.

So what i think you are saying either way there is at least 1 mafia in that group. Can you tell me who is most likely mafia in there. I know you are set on sam, but there are 4 others, we shouldn't all go on him right away.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #855 - 05/31/16 at 14:08:35

no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 14:03:37:

kyleb30 wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:27:32:

There's one major problem with this theory. Mafia just killed 2 players that would have been among the primary suspects. If there's mafia in the racer group, they just increased the odds of us finding them D2 and beyond. The only 2 things that would make this make sense is if either the mafia was very inexperienced and wanted to get strong players out ASAP, or if there was only 1 of them in this group and they were ok with that trade.

So what i think you are saying either way there is at least 1 mafia in that group. Can you tell me who is most likely mafia in there. I know you are set on sam, but there are 4 others, we shouldn't all go on him right away.

More thought processes like this is making me think sam is town.

The last thing I need to do right now, is give people like vinnie a pass for poor play all around, (that's why we lynched racer yesterday right?)

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #856 - 05/31/16 at 14:13:15

DansGame wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:45:34:

These people jumped on the last minute Racer wagon after Shock suggested it:

Tim
TvK (who we now know is town)
Lafungo
Yoshistar
Zoran

This makes me think Sam F is maf, and they saw an opportunity to save him. Lafungo definitely seems different this game, and I suspected him Day 1. More so now. Yoshistar also seems pretty sketchy aswell judging by his activity (or lack of it despite being online) at eod.

[vote]Lafungo[/vote]

I have to say again...Lafungo was after racer all day and Shock wasn't the one who suggested it. Kyle was the one who kept digging.

except a straight lie about Lafungo, you list pretty much everyone who voted racer except kyle who turned it around.

Come on townies, we have to analyze the wagon which lynched a townie. Look at zarkovs list and add KYLE. Also feel free to add Dan in this story since he was the 1st one who mentioned coaching of Racer.

[vote]Zarkov[/vote]

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #857 - 05/31/16 at 14:19:55

no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 11:01:33:

Darius how do you feel on SAM vs Zarkov? On D1 you said you would jump on Zarkov if 2 of them were the choice. Do you still feel the same?

What are your thoughts on my list at end of D1, especially on my take on you?

And for everyone - these guys voted to lynch a townie: kyleb30, Darius, Lafungo, Timothy, TvK, Yoshistar.
Also, Dan was among 1st people to voice their opinion on Racer being coached.

who are maf there?

If Sam gets lynched and flips mafia (not necessarily suggesting that we lynch Sam today) then you can put it at very likely that I am town because it makes no sense for me to have voted Sam instead of Racer at the end of the day if Sam and I were both mafia. Personally I was kind of upset at the time that a blitzwagon was put on Racer at the end of the day because I was at a memorial day parade and did not have a lot of time to adequately think about who was more likely to be mafia and who it would make more sense to lynch.

Yes, I was suspicious of Racer at the beginning of the day and I don't blame Lafungo for it either because he's an 11 year old who suddenly started posting like he was way older than his years - it definitely sounded coached. I am still suspicious of Vinnie for having been coached after coming out and saying at one point that he wasn't going to post anymore until he had 5 semi-confident mafia leans which seemed very un-Vinnie-like, and I'm also suspicious of Sam for waiting on coaching after saying today that he would be online but couldn't post because he was about to have dinner (giving an excuse for being online while also not posting).

Throwing a question out there. Is it possible that Sam F, Racer, and Zarkov are all town? I know that Racer made what seemed to be a slip yesterday and that was part of the blitzwagon on him, but is it possible that the real motivation for some on that wagon was to get off of mafia Zarkov? The timing of the Racer wagon was right after Zarkov got up there with Sam, right?

Lots of things to still go back and look up.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #858 - 05/31/16 at 14:21:20

no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 14:13:15:

DansGame wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:45:34:

These people jumped on the last minute Racer wagon after Shock suggested it:

Tim
TvK (who we now know is town)
Lafungo
Yoshistar
Zoran

This makes me think Sam F is maf, and they saw an opportunity to save him. Lafungo definitely seems different this game, and I suspected him Day 1. More so now. Yoshistar also seems pretty sketchy aswell judging by his activity (or lack of it despite being online) at eod.

[vote]Lafungo[/vote]

I have to say again...Lafungo was after racer all day and Shock wasn't the one who suggested it. Kyle was the one who kept digging.

except a straight lie about Lafungo, you list pretty much everyone who voted racer except kyle who turned it around.

Come on townies, we have to analyze the wagon which lynched a townie. Look at zarkovs list and add KYLE. Also feel free to add Dan in this story since he was the 1st one who mentioned coaching of Racer.

[vote]Zarkov[/vote]

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Your quote tag says that I made the post you quoted but it was Zarkov who made that post and I copied it later, just to be clear.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #860 - 05/31/16 at 14:27:21

Fank009 wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:59:17:

DansGame wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:56:22:

By the way everyone, it's silly to suggest that Shock should have outright claimed cop yesterday to get protection. If you read the rules the mafia roleblocker doesn't have to switch targets every night - the mafia could have chosen to keep Shock alive intentionally and roleblock him every night so that he was able to gain no information about who is mafia and who is town.

^this. (+doctor as well)

I don’t think anybody said Shock should’ve roleclaimed D1?

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #862 - 05/31/16 at 14:53:15

I would like to add that Zarkov also didn't mention Darius. Lafungo expressed that he would go for racer, but basically gave up. right after comes Darius and votes racer.

Lets recreate, pay attention to post numbers

Lafungo wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:34:16:

Well, since a Racer lynch isn't happening...

[vote]Sam F[/vote]

Lafungo gives up on Racer idea post #651

Darius wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:35:02:

Of the recent wagoners, I'm really not liking Racer's hop onto Zarkov. Previously he hadn't expressed any suspicion, even though he was asking other people about Zarkov on multiple occasions, and that vote post reeked of covering his back. I will:

[vote]Racer727[/vote]

I'll switch to Zarkov before EoD if I have to.

Darius casts 1st vote to racer #654

kyleb30 wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:34:37:

Racer727 wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:09:19:

Let me explain. Zarkov is a strong player at this game, he pushes hard and questions what he sees. When he's town he can be a nightmare.

I may be crazy, but does this seem like a slip to anyone else? Nightmare to who? If you're town, you'd be glad to have Zarkov as town, not terrified of him.

This #653 happened half a minute before Darius 1st vote... did Darius knew it was going down?

Darius wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:45:01:

"Even if I am town"? Can we lynch Racer now?

Lafungo wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:45:10:

Two slips from Racer? It isn't too late to lynch him.

Lafungo #670 and Darius #671 make the same post with 9 seconds difference....how is LAfungo main suspect and Darius not even on the list for Zarkov????

And last of all comes shock #672

Shock wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:45:46:

Darius wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:45:01:

"Even if I am town"? Can we lynch Racer now?

Yes. I'd much rather him than Sam at this point, and it looks like Zarkov isn't happening.

[vote]Racer727[/vote]

I have more thoughts, just don't end the day early and post some thoughts people...

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Reply #863 - 05/31/16 at 14:54:09

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:26:20:

This is how I feel right now about the players. First number is my lean, second number is variability (how much I feel like my lean could change before the end of day based on what's posted.)

({1 Town - 10 Maf}, {1 low variability - 10 high})

1. ALAKTORN (4, 5)
2. βΓαδθπ (7, 9)
3. Darius (4, 4)
4. DBMK64 (4, 6)
5. Honko (4, 4)
6. J-Cop (5, 8)
7. kyleb30 (3, 7)
8. Lafungo (7, 7)
9. No control (6, 6)
10. ORANGE.exe (3, 10)
11. Racer727 (6, 7)
12. Sam F (7, 8)
14. Sportsguy001 (5, 3)
15. theyounggun (5, 7)
16. Timothy (4, 6)
17. Tom1 (5, 10)
18. TvK (7, 6)
19. Vinnie927 (6-7, 3)
20. Yoshistar (5, 6)
21. Zarkov (8, 6)

I've said I'm not interested in lynching Vinnie or Racer because they seem like to be too easy for Maf to target as well and bandwagon if they are Town. Right now I really don't like how Zarkov slid in behind Honko's Sam vote. Right now I'm feeling alright about a Zarkov or Lafungo lynch.

Shock wrote on 05/30/16 at 05:04:35:

Of Sam, Racer, and Vinnie I'm least happy about a Vinnie lynch. He's just been posting a lot and been all over the place and saying scummy things, but he did the exact same thing last game and was townie.

A Racer lynch flipping scum could tell us information about people who could be his scumbuddies based on some of the posts I've seen from him, so he's tempting. But I'm still wary of him just being an easy target for Mafia to go after due to his rapid improvement from last game.

I find it weird that Sam would show some "righteous anger" over Orange's posts, as if he's been contributing very much himself. Feels like a forced concern tone to me. Of the wagons that are not Zarkov, I find him the most likely to be scum in my eyes.

I also find it interesting that my Zarkov vote got no traction. I feel like if he were town, scum might have willingly slipped behind me and pointed out his scummy behavior as well, as I would think a townie Zarkov lynch would be a juicy possibility from their perspective. But nope. Basically no takers. Makes me wonder if they are trying to get him through the day and not talk about him and try to keep the conversation focused on people like Vinnie, Sam F, etc. and it's not hard for them to do so.

My vote stays on Zarkov for now.

3 hours left guys.

Forget what I said about Shock possibly alluding to having gotten a N0 reveal on Zarkov, it's clear from these posts that he was highly suspicious of Zarkov.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #866 - 05/31/16 at 15:08:34

Vote Count (as of reply #864):

Sam F (5): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927

Zarkov (2): Yoshistar, no control

ALAKTORN (1):Sportsguy001

Lafungo (1): ~~Zarkov,~~ Fank009

theyounggun (0): ~~Darius~~

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority.

Day 1 will otherwise end on Thursday, June 2 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in 41 hours.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #868 - 05/31/16 at 15:26:23

Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:15:56:

Very interesting exchange between darius and alaktorn. I'm convinced darius is town. I don't think there is anyway that they are both mafia/mafia and i doubt they are both town. So i have to keep my suspicion on alaktorn from the previous day.

[vote]alaktorn[/vote]

I was waiting to reply to this to see if anyone else would follow behind your vote, but somehow missed this post:
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:35:16:

LewisRichards wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:33:54:

Alaktorn still posted same way last game though. Their posting styles may be opposite, but it's rng that decides the roles.

I feel as if this is protecting ALAKTORN, and that he and tyg may be m/m (or tyg could be missing the point again). Darius/ALAKTORN are almost certainly t/m

I think this is a good post for information. Could Sportsguy/Vinnie be m/m? Lynching within this group of 5 could give us mafia information.

So, here is the reply I was waiting to post to Sportsguy:
Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:15:56:

Very interesting exchange between darius and alaktorn. I'm convinced darius is town. I don't think there is anyway that they are both mafia/mafia and i doubt they are both town. So i have to keep my suspicion on alaktorn from the previous day.

[vote]alaktorn[/vote]

Why can’t we be t/t? What makes you convinced Darius is town? That’s a pretty weak vote considering the only reason you voted for me D1 was because of an irrelevant early post (flame war thing). You want me to link you the topic I was flaming in?

Same thing goes for Vinnie: what makes you certain Darius and I are t/m?

no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 14:53:15:

—CUT—

So Darius/Zarkov m/m could be a thing?

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Reply #870 - 05/31/16 at 15:40:23

Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:15:56:

Very interesting exchange between darius and alaktorn. I'm convinced darius is town. I don't think there is anyway that they are both mafia/mafia and i doubt they are both town. So i have to keep my suspicion on alaktorn from the previous day.

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I don't think we should feel obligated to lynch sam f today.

What made you feel like Darius is town? I felt like Darius's vote on Racer was suspicious yesterday (again going back to post 653 and the stuff around).

I think people should be examining everything that happened from post 564 on page 23 to post 725 on page 30.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #873 - 05/31/16 at 16:08:50

Tomorrow i'm flying home (2 hours flight) so i won't be as active as i would like, but i'll definitely join on discussion during the day.

Just some minor things before i go to sleep:

Lafungo wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:11:45:

I'll give doctor the benefit of the doubt and assume he went for a gamble.

No no and no, role blocked or failed.

No risk taking, with only 1 doc he has to go for biggest town leans.

J-Cop wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:18:04:

Dan's last second vote to make it a tie gives me a town lean on him. Think from the perspective of maf in that situation. If Sam and Racer are both town, you probably wouldn't care who gets lynched between the two, so voting for Sam to make it a RNG lynch wouldn't give any strategic advantage. If Sam is maf and Racer is town, you wouldn't want to risk Sam being the one to randomly get killed, so you wouldn't vote him to make it a tie. This doesn't guarantee that Dan is town, but I think it shows that he and Sam aren't m/m and it gives me a town lean on him.

I disagree here. From maf perspective it would be a good move. Lets say both wagons are town. If he goes with racer, he closes the deal and is definitely a suspect. If he goes other way, it is random and if other one is lynched he looks ok since he didn't close on townie.

So going racer chances of being suspect are 100%.

Going Sam and randomizing the vote 50% chance of being a suspect.

I would also like to add that randomizing a vote can cause confusion. Sportsguy was maf last game and he was thinking about it 1st.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #874 - 05/31/16 at 16:22:39

no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 16:08:50:

Tomorrow i'm flying home (2 hours flight) so i won't be as active as i would like, but i'll definitely join on discussion during the day.

Just some minor things before i go to sleep:

Lafungo wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:11:45:

I'll give doctor the benefit of the doubt and assume he went for a gamble.

No no and no, role blocked or failed.

No risk taking, with only 1 doc he has to go for biggest town leans.

J-Cop wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:18:04:

Dan's last second vote to make it a tie gives me a town lean on him. Think from the perspective of maf in that situation. If Sam and Racer are both town, you probably wouldn't care who gets lynched between the two, so voting for Sam to make it a RNG lynch wouldn't give any strategic advantage. If Sam is maf and Racer is town, you wouldn't want to risk Sam being the one to randomly get killed, so you wouldn't vote him to make it a tie. This doesn't guarantee that Dan is town, but I think it shows that he and Sam aren't m/m and it gives me a town lean on him.

I disagree here. From maf perspective it would be a good move. Lets say both wagons are town. If he goes with racer, he closes the deal and is definitely a suspect. If he goes other way, it is random and if other one is lynched he looks ok since he didn't close on townie.

So going racer chances of being suspect are 100%.

Going Sam and randomizing the vote 50% chance of being a suspect.

I would also like to add that randomizing a vote can cause confusion. Sportsguy was maf last game and he was thinking about it 1st.

The funny thing about my vote at the end of last day was that when I tried to vote it was before Yoshistar had voted for Racer so in my mind I was voting for Sam F to be the lynch instead of it being random. However since I had just posted right before that it gave me a "your last post was less than 40 seconds ago" error and I had to wait a few more seconds to vote for Sam F...scary stuff lol not knowing if it would come before the end of the day. Of course all that doesn't matter because if Sam is mafia then there is only a very small chance that I am mafia - why would I vote for him over town racer as a mafia member. If Sam is town then my vote didn't matter either way. Where did you come up with the 50% number of me being a suspect for me voting for Sam should Sam be a townie?

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