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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #600 - 05/30/16 at 06:34:51
 
Okay, currently answering the questions now.
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Reply #601 - 05/30/16 at 06:35:12
 
I'm feeling similarly about YS as I am Vinnie. I don't see a very noticeable change from the previous game, where he was a Townie. I don't think he's getting coached and don't think he's worth our votes at this point.
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Reply #602 - 05/30/16 at 06:40:13
 
I won't stay there alone if that's what happens. I'd vote for Zarkov if that's the choice.

Everyone else who isn't voting for one of the main wagons: make your final case for your top suspect or choose your preferred one now and give your reasons. We don't want people sitting here not making their stance clear with less than 90 minutes to go.
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Reply #603 - 05/30/16 at 06:41:41
 
For those who are talking about coaching: what would you tell an inexperienced player who had been in the last game as town to do?
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Reply #604 - 05/30/16 at 06:41:49
 
DansGame wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:17:00:
Shock, is there a single post anywhere which sums up all your Zarkov thoughts?


Not too far back.

Shock wrote on 05/30/16 at 05:56:13:
Zarkov, it wasn't just you sheeping Honko. It's the whole going after only the inactives, your sudden accusation on me that I hadn't been scumhunting (and hence not playing like a townie) then your quick willingness to retract it, your laying low for a large portion of the discussion (you said something about low-posters tending to be maf but only have some 20 posts yourself, the first 4 of which were joke posts), and the seeming unwillingness people have to put you on a wagon indicates to me that you could be maf that the other maf don't want to attract attention to.


It also looks like Zarkov has made appearances when he gets accused/gets heat, but he hasn't bothered to dig through the thread and really scumhunt from my perspective. All I've seen from him is "Sam is my biggest lean" (conveniently also the leading wagon) and seeing him go after inactives early in the game. There is like, no analysis coming from him, and I think there's a good chance that it's not just because he doesn't play this game much, but because he's finding it extra difficult to do when he already knows everyone's alignment.

I also feel like he's been avoiding giving reasoning for his leads - he left his leans in one post but didn't really explain why iirc.
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Reply #605 - 05/30/16 at 06:43:18
 
Darius wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:41:41:
For those who are talking about coaching: what would you tell an inexperienced player who had been in the last game as town to do?


If it's someone like YS/Vinnie/Racer: Don't read the maf chat during the day and post a lot. lol

Someone more experienced I wouldn't bother trying to coach.
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Reply #606 - 05/30/16 at 06:44:13
 
This day's been a giant clusterfuck, I'm not sure what to make of it. But here goes:

Racer still is most suspicious to me. He's done a good job of answering questions... without actually answering. Also, he mentions at one point that he think I'm riding off the coattails of Lafungo (#395), yet does absolutely nothing about it. IMO, he's just sitting back now and trying to make sure the heat stays off him.

Seeing as the Racer wagon has no traction right now, I'd be willing to switch to my second biggest scum read: Sam F. Sam's post where he attacks Orange seemed like a desperation move to me. Orange was faltering and getting on everyone's nerves, so Sam decided it was his time to strike. He's also one that's trying to get the heat off himself, and not really adding much at all to the discussion.

Anything people want me to answer? I should be around until EoD.
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Reply #607 - 05/30/16 at 06:44:43
 
Racer just had to post more solid info about his leans, from there I can judge wherever he's suspecting one of his buddies or not, making him look scummy.

I honestly think they're fooling around about last game, though TYG was serious and I don't trust it much that he jumps on him. Dan is slightly town lean.

As Orange managed to post more, despite the joke posts, I think he's an inexperienced townie.

Zarkov has a higher chance to be maf than town.

Sam seems to be frustrated as a townie, but I don't know why he would play the game if he barely posts in here?
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Reply #608 - 05/30/16 at 06:48:11
 
Racer727 wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:05:29:
What do you mean "in my forum"?


By the way, this could be a townslip from Racer; of course, it might also be coached.
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Reply #609 - 05/30/16 at 06:48:32
 
Crap I forgot to say @TvK
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Reply #610 - 05/30/16 at 06:48:52
 
Darius wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:41:41:
For those who are talking about coaching: what would you tell an inexperienced player who had been in the last game as town to do?


Wouldn't you like to know...

This is an example where you shouldn't post your thoughts as townie in my book. Why give this info to mafia now?
Maybe on day 3-4 this is good, but it is too early for this kind of thing.
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Reply #611 - 05/30/16 at 06:50:33
 
&b wrote on 05/30/16 at 05:28:39:
Well I am. Town Vanilla (a role I wasn't keen with from the start).


This is such a poor reason for not being active. You realize that with the exception of the Cop, everyone started on the same footing? It doesn't matter that you're vanilla or a power role, no one has done anything special thus far.
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Reply #612 - 05/30/16 at 06:50:57
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:44:43:
Racer just had to post more solid info about his leans, from there I can judge wherever he's suspecting one of his buddies or not, making him look scummy.

I honestly think they're fooling around about last game, though TYG was serious and I don't trust it much that he jumps on him. Dan is slightly town lean.

As Orange managed to post more, despite the joke posts, I think he's an inexperienced townie.

Zarkov has a higher chance to be maf than town.

Sam seems to be frustrated as a townie, but I don't know why he would play the game if he barely posts in here?


So both Racer and Zarkov are maf to you. Why is your vote still on Vinnie? Is he even worse? Or do you recall any suspicious interactions between Vinnie and Racer/Zarkov?
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Reply #613 - 05/30/16 at 06:52:07
 
Shock wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:48:11:
Racer727 wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:05:29:
What do you mean "in my forum"?


By the way, this could be a townslip from Racer; of course, it might also be coached.


I take this with a grain of salt, because he could just be trying to act oblivious in order to get this exact reaction.
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Reply #614 - 05/30/16 at 06:53:29
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:44:13:
This day's been a giant clusterfuck, I'm not sure what to make of it. But here goes:

Racer still is most suspicious to me. He's done a good job of answering questions... without actually answering. Also, he mentions at one point that he think I'm riding off the coattails of Lafungo (#395), yet does absolutely nothing about it. IMO, he's just sitting back now and trying to make sure the heat stays off him.

Seeing as the Racer wagon has no traction right now, I'd be willing to switch to my second biggest scum read: Sam F. Sam's post where he attacks Orange seemed like a desperation move to me. Orange was faltering and getting on everyone's nerves, so Sam decided it was his time to strike. He's also one that's trying to get the heat off himself, and not really adding much at all to the discussion.

Anything people want me to answer? I should be around until EoD.


Do you think Orange is town because of his latest posts? Is your scumread on Sam more based off of the fact that he jumped on Orange because he was getting on everyone's nerves? Or because he was jumping on someone who was starting to look town at that point?
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Reply #615 - 05/30/16 at 06:53:53
 
I gotta go. I won’t be around for EoD… good luck guys.
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Reply #616 - 05/30/16 at 06:54:18
 
Honko wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:15:20:
Clark has been extremely scummy so far, although his post on page 16 was a little bit of an improvement. He hasn't commented on any of the interactions in the game yet, just inactives. I wanna hear his thoughts on what's actually going on in the game. So far this feels like mafia Clark. If all the inactives show up, I'd be down for a Clark lynch.


Have the inactives shown up enough for you? What do you think of Zarkov's playing since this post?
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Reply #617 - 05/30/16 at 06:57:38
 
Shock where do you get that I haven't explained my reasoning on my leans? I've done that multiple times. Plus Sam wasn't the leading lunch when I went on him. And I stand by my opinion. I just feel you're finding fault with me and letting others slip by. Lafungo is one of your leans, but because he hasn't been around it's like you've just let him off.

Plus I've said earlier that's not how I play. There are others who do the same. I don't have oodles of free time to dig through every single thing.

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Reply #618 - 05/30/16 at 06:58:06
 
Zarkov i hope you are still around and making that list...
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Reply #619 - 05/30/16 at 07:00:27
 
no control wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:48:52:
Darius wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:41:41:
For those who are talking about coaching: what would you tell an inexperienced player who had been in the last game as town to do?


Wouldn't you like to know...

This is an example where you shouldn't post your thoughts as townie in my book. Why give this info to mafia now?
Maybe on day 3-4 this is good, but it is too early for this kind of thing.


I think Darius is experienced enough that if he were scum he wouldn't need any "advice" coaching his partners. The question's kind of useful because it shows who's willing to do the thought experiment and after people flip this could be another point of information we can use to our benefit. But I see your point as well. Your careful thinking about what to post and potentially tell mafia gives you a slight town lean from me I guess, but the biggest teller is going to be your scumhunting and I'll definitely be re-reading this thread N1 and spending some time reading over your posts again.
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Reply #620 - 05/30/16 at 07:01:34
 
Vote Count (as of reply #618):



Sam F (5): Honko, Vinnie927, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, ORANGE.exe

Vinnie927 (4): theyounggun, Honko, TvK, Racer727, DBMK64, theyounggun, Yoshistar

Zarkov (3): Shock, TvK, ORANGE.exe, no control

Racer727 (2): Lafungo, kyleb30, no control

ORANGE.exe (2): ALAKTORN, Timothy, no control, Yoshistar, Sam F

ALAKTORN (1): Sportsguy001

Darius (1): J-Cop

Yoshistar (1): no control, Darius

Honko (0): ORANGE.exe, Vinnie927

TvK (0): Shock

DBMK64 (0): Sportsguy001, theyounggun

theyounggun (0): DBMK64, kyleb30

Lafungo (0): Shock, Vinnie927, Racer727, Yoshistar, Sam F, βΓαδθπ

Fank009 (0): Lafungo, Zarkov

Shock (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe




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Reply #621 - 05/30/16 at 07:03:49
 
As of right now, I'm fine with the following lynches (in this order): Racer, Sam, Yoshistar, Orange.

I've made my point clear on Racer. I can't see him posting as he has as town.

Sam has reasonable odds of being mafia, and if he's not then he's useless to town by his own admission (doesn't care about the game because he's vanilla).

I dig TvK's post on Yoshistar and am willing to lynch him based on that. Not that I need much convincing to lynch Yoshistar given how poorly he plays.

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as well as the following posts. But eventually he got somewhat better, and it seems like he might do something of use later. I also have trouble seeing him as maf despite the awfulness of his posts, so I'd only lynch him now if the other three aren't an option.
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Reply #622 - 05/30/16 at 07:04:57
 
TvK wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:53:29:
Do you think Orange is town because of his latest posts?


Yes, I think his last few posts help his case of being town. His first few posts were questionable, and the only case he's presented against Honko was basically him not understanding a joke, but he started attempting to contribute after that. However, his reactionary vote on Sam F and his reasoning for that (#554) are very sketchy. Therefore, I can't give him more than a slight town lean. Will need to see more posting before I can make a full assumption.

TvK wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:53:29:
Is your scumread on Sam more based off of the fact that he jumped on Orange because he was getting on everyone's nerves? Or because he was jumping on someone who was starting to look town at that point?


Neither really. To me, it looks like Sam saw his name being hotly discussed, and then saw Orange posting tons of fluff that was pissing people off, so he figured a wagon would start on Orange and decided to hop on in order to avoid heat on himself.

My problem with lynching Sam is his lack of posts. We're gaining next to no information since his main interactions have been with Orange and generally addressing the town. I'm not sure if he's scummy enough to me to lynch now, as us being wrong leads to 2 fewer players and little information gained at start of D2
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Reply #623 - 05/30/16 at 07:09:19
 
&b wrote on 05/30/16 at 05:28:39:
DansGame wrote on 05/30/16 at 05:21:01:
If Sam F is town I will have lost faith in the human race.

Since I'm pretty much dead by this point, and I'm going out in a few mins so I'll make this brief.
Well I am. Town Vanilla (a role I wasn't keen with from the start). The reason I was so aggressive towards Orange was because a joke post this far into the day doesn't sit well with me one bit. Even after  doing reasonable posts, he just does this:
Orange Slices wrote on 05/30/16 at 04:01:30:
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Yes, this is only my second mafia game so I'm still really inexperienced and I need to make more of an effort. I probably won't post before the end of the day, so if I'm lynched then see y'all later.

No. I don't buy it. Someone truly town would post more in order to help the town win by not looking scummy. A Mafia would post little in order to not mess up their image. You haven't really posted anything with substance and your excuse is you don't like your role? Smiley I don't buy this. If anything you are a vanilla Mafia trying to look town by posting little until the heat is extreme. Town members will try to prove their innocence by scum hunting. And I don't feel like you have done all you can. Noob or no noob, I net you would do better if you were town.

That being said, you played like this last game, and so I don't know what to think. If you end up town, I'll look pretty bad because I was pushing you hard.

[vote]Zarkov[/vote]

Let me explain. Zarkov is a strong player at this game, he pushes hard and questions what he sees. When he's town he can be a nightmare. I haven't seen that this game. Sure, he's scum hunted when the heat is applied, but I expect him to scum hunt no matter what if he were town. Something fishy is going on with him, and I don't think it's because he went to a sushi bar.
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Reply #624 - 05/30/16 at 07:10:54
 
TvK wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:14:10:
I'm just going over the votes that people currently have, and here are some questions for a couple of people:

Racer: You voted Vinnie in post 198. Your reasoning to vote him is not bad. However, there have been 400 more posts than when you voted him. Did your read on him change at all in those posts? Is there anyone else who sticks out for you? And if you are certain that Vinnie is maf, who would his scumbuddies be?

Tim: You voted Orange because his posts were literal garbage. Now that he has posted a little more, did that change anything about your opinion of him? If you would switch off of Orange, who would your vote go to?

Sportsguy: As already said before, your vote came over 500 posts ago. ALAK is not going to be lynched today. As Shock pointed out, you had your doubts about Zarkov before. Who would you switch to?


Hey, I'm back until the end of the day. Catching up now & I think Orange at least made somewhat of an effort after we pressed him enough. Sam then made the bizarre Orange vote which I didn't like one bit, & the resigned role claim really irks me. If they flip town they've done nothing to help us & are acting as a distraction.

I'm leaning towards Zarkov atm, I briefly voiced my concern earlier & I think Shock made an interesting point in post #564 about how his points on Zarkov were largely ignored. I'm torn between Zarkov & Sam.
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