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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #425 - 05/29/16 at 15:45:24

TvK wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:39:51:

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:30:22:

I think Shock might be trying to get the town's top player out, but only if he's mafia.
I've been thinking about it, and the easiest way to prove Shock's innocence without lynching him would be to lynch Orange/Bradon. What does everyone else think?

And what if we lynch Orange and he's town? What does that say about Shock? And what if we lynch Bradon and he turns out to be maf? What would that mean for Shock's and Orange's alignment?

Vinnie I want you to answer this. It seems like you're trying your hardest to move the heat from you to someone else. I don't see any connection between Shock and Orange or Bradon. Are you just trying to get us to lynch inactives?

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #426 - 05/29/16 at 15:47:50

LewisRichards wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:04:19:

Of course his posting style would change if he was maf, he's under suspicion. I spent the whole last game as maf trying to adapt. I'm not saying racer is maf even though I think he is. I'm just pointing out that I can see him change his style both ways.

You're "not saying Racer is maf even though you think he is"? Be less commital, please.
Also, if you "can see him change his style both ways", why do you think he's mafia?

no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:04:45:

i think mafia is too powerful this game

I'm confused by this. Are you saying that you think this setup is imbalanced towards mafia? I hope you realize that Shock's game heavily favored town and shouldn't be used as a measuring stick for the fairness of other setups. Mafia being able to discuss privately at all times is the norm, and conditional 2 KP (kill power) is fairly common in larger games, especially with a better town-mafia ratio (3:1 is good for town).
I didn't bother responding to this topic earlier because it doesn't pertain directly to the game itself, but I feel like it's necessary to do so now given Zoran's strange insistence on bringing it up repeatedly. I have the nagging feeling it could be a demoralizing/redirecting tactic, but I'll attribute that to paranoia for now.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #428 - 05/29/16 at 16:12:32

LewisRichards wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:01:58:

LewisRichards wrote on 05/29/16 at 09:13:39:

Okay okay, I've been thinking. I feel like Dan, Shock, Racer, Orange, and Vinnie are all mafia. I know this is a wild accusation and if I don't say it right I'll probably be lynched, but knowing from being mafia with Dan last game he found it pretty easy to attack or jump quickly on me, I think it's possible he did the exact same thing here with Shock and Racer and jumped a little too quickly on them. I think it's possible he slipped there, while Shock slipped defending Racer. Dan makes it look like he's trying to keep the pressure on Shock while trying to quitely end the pressure at the same time. If you look at last game, he was doing the exact same thing with me, trying to jump on me quick to blend in with town while doing it in a way where he doesn't look suspicious. Vinnie's and Orange's posts have just been overall scummy, especially orange's so I'm not certain about them yet. But I swear there's a good chance Dan, Shock, and Racer are all mafia. All at the same time Dan keeps his joke vote on me and not on Racer or Shock at all. Sound familiar? Despite all his quick attacks on me last game, he never voted for me.

@Racer I also think if Dan turned maf you could be maf too, this post it my theory based off of Dans maf actions last game.

I don't see how it makes sense that you came up with a list of 5 people who are all mafia, 3 of whom I've already been suspicious of and one of whom my vote is on?

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #429 - 05/29/16 at 16:15:20

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:26:20:

This is how I feel right now about the players. First number is my lean, second number is variability (how much I feel like my lean could change before the end of day based on what's posted.)

({1 Town - 10 Maf}, {1 low variability - 10 high})

2. βΓαδθπ (7, 9)

Why do you think giving a new player (that has been inactive because of family reasons) such a high lean to maf?

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #430 - 05/29/16 at 16:20:15

Bradon wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:15:20:

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:26:20:

This is how I feel right now about the players. First number is my lean, second number is variability (how much I feel like my lean could change before the end of day based on what's posted.)

({1 Town - 10 Maf}, {1 low variability - 10 high})

2. βΓαδθπ (7, 9)

Why do you think giving a new player (that has been inactive because of family reasons) such a high lean to maf?

Read the thread, and the answer will reveal itself!

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #431 - 05/29/16 at 16:21:14

Bradon wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:15:20:

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:26:20:

This is how I feel right now about the players. First number is my lean, second number is variability (how much I feel like my lean could change before the end of day based on what's posted.)

({1 Town - 10 Maf}, {1 low variability - 10 high})

2. βΓαδθπ (7, 9)

Why do you think giving a new player (that has been inactive because of family reasons) such a high lean to maf?

And to add to my last post: new players have the same chance of being maf as experienced players do.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #432 - 05/29/16 at 16:24:45

TvK wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:21:14:

Bradon wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:15:20:

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:26:20:

This is how I feel right now about the players. First number is my lean, second number is variability (how much I feel like my lean could change before the end of day based on what's posted.)

({1 Town - 10 Maf}, {1 low variability - 10 high})

2. βΓαδθπ (7, 9)

Why do you think giving a new player (that has been inactive because of family reasons) such a high lean to maf?

And to add to my last post: new players have the same chance of being maf as experienced players do.

That is true....
I see why everyone is thinking that now

What are your thoughts on the others who are posted beside me?

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #434 - 05/29/16 at 16:27:45

Of all the people who haven't posted a lot, Sam F's lack of posting looks the worst and if he flipped town it would be representative of a terrible town game for him - he knows that if you don't post a lot you look suspicious and he's made no effort to contribute even after saying he'd get serious. I still think Vinnie is maf after the post I brought up awhile ago where he tried to change gears and say that he wasn't going to post again until he got 5 semi-confident mafia leans which to me really does sound like justification for going silent - and I think that if Vinnie did turn out to be mafia, it's likely that he has scumbuddies pointing the lens to the quieter people this game.

I'd like to point out to everyone that it is extremely unlikely that all of the people who haven't posted a lot are mafia. I think the actual members of the mafia will try to focus on a quiet person who they know is innocent but looks guilty so that we have a lynch D1 without a lot of info.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #436 - 05/29/16 at 16:41:10

Lafungo wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:26:59:

Bradon wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:24:45:

What are your thoughts on the others who are posted beside me?

No, no. We want to hear YOUR thoughts. You can read other people's thoughts in the thread, because they've been posting.

Orange and racer727 both have been very inactive and have their normal post-happy minds gone away... They mainly are low and slow posters but they don't usualy act as quiet like this.... I do think they look like maf because they're quiet and it seems to jump out as the same reason for me tho, I have been noticing some inconsistencies on the way.... I haven't made my mind on the other ones yet that havn't posted as much as you guys but i can see some ways they can be town in their posting style and notes to the other people. I don't see why slow quiet posters have higher chance of mod but it ha the same reason as the game before

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #437 - 05/29/16 at 16:44:40

Quiet posters have a higher chance of being maf because they want to lay low and under the radar so that they don't get lynched. Posting a lot as a mafia member is hard because you're always trying to make sure that you haven't contradicted yourself and to make sure that your reasoning appears like you're a town player trying your best to uncover mafia.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #438 - 05/29/16 at 16:45:39

Bradon wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:41:10:

Lafungo wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:26:59:

Bradon wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:24:45:

What are your thoughts on the others who are posted beside me?

No, no. We want to hear YOUR thoughts. You can read other people's thoughts in the thread, because they've been posting.

Orange and racer727 both have been very inactive and have their normal post-happy minds gone away... They mainly are low and slow posters but they don't usualy act as quiet like this.... I do think they look like maf because they're quiet and it seems to jump out as the same reason for me tho, I have been noticing some inconsistencies on the way.... I haven't made my mind on the other ones yet that havn't posted as much as you guys but i can see some ways they can be town in their posting style and notes to the other people. I don't see why slow quiet posters have higher chance of mod but it ha the same reason as the game before

I know you're a new player, so here are some tips:

First of all, read the entire thread. Every single post of it. Then try to find the posts that stick out to you. Quote those posts and your own comments why you think so. This can either be something like "this post is a scumpost because..." or "I think this post comes across as town because...". If you'd read the thread, you would see that Racer actually has posted quite a lot. It's good that you're trying to form your own opinions (some others still haven't grasped that this is an essential part of mafia), but you really need to try to be more specific in your reads. Those general reads like "he looks scummy" without giving some hard evidence are quite worthless to the town.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #439 - 05/29/16 at 16:46:30

DansGame wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:33:49:

Hold on, racer is 11 years old?

What?! O_o Where did you get that from?

kyleb30 wrote on 05/29/16 at 15:45:24:

TvK wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:39:51:

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:30:22:

I think Shock might be trying to get the town's top player out, but only if he's mafia.
I've been thinking about it, and the easiest way to prove Shock's innocence without lynching him would be to lynch Orange/Bradon. What does everyone else think?

And what if we lynch Orange and he's town? What does that say about Shock? And what if we lynch Bradon and he turns out to be maf? What would that mean for Shock's and Orange's alignment?

Vinnie I want you to answer this. It seems like you're trying your hardest to move the heat from you to someone else. I don't see any connection between Shock and Orange or Bradon. Are you just trying to get us to lynch inactives?

He made a post somewhere quoting one of Shock’s posts to explain why he had those relationship dynamics in mind.

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no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:04:45:

i think mafia is too powerful this game

I'm confused by this. Are you saying that you think this setup is imbalanced towards mafia? I hope you realize that Shock's game heavily favored town and shouldn't be used as a measuring stick for the fairness of other setups. Mafia being able to discuss privately at all times is the norm, and conditional 2 KP (kill power) is fairly common in larger games, especially with a better town-mafia ratio (3:1 is good for town).
I didn't bother responding to this topic earlier because it doesn't pertain directly to the game itself, but I feel like it's necessary to do so now given Zoran's strange insistence on bringing it up repeatedly. I have the nagging feeling it could be a demoralizing/redirecting tactic, but I'll attribute that to paranoia for now.

You think mafia doesn’t have the upper hand? I agreed with Zoran there. I don’t even think the day chat matters much, but just the roles on mafia’s side look really strong to me. The Odd-Night Vigilante scares me, and we don’t have anything to defend ourselves except for the Doctor who’d have to get lucky, though having a (sorta double) Cop is great.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #441 - 05/29/16 at 16:52:03

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:19:17:

love the fail quote tags...

Also, not to mention Lafungo is in my potential "low-lying maf" list and TvK did not seem pleased that he was getting a bunch of votes early on and was calling out players for piling on votes even though majority is not in effect.

TvK/Lafungo m/m is definitely a possibility in my eyes.

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:27:22:

I really want to hear more from Lafungo and Bradon right now.

Timothy wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:05:39:

Also Lafungo is online and not posting, and he needs to address Shock etc's concerns. If he's maf then he's dangerous which I why I didn't give him a free pass last game. This is what I was saying earlier, that lots of very active townies posting a lot can make it easier for maf to hide by just popping in enough to avert suspicion.

Zarkov wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:13:37:

Also Lafungo has been online for a while and has done nothing to address the heat on him. Like we'd forget or something.

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:15:13:

I only just noticed that Lafungo only made 6 posts, lol. That’s pretty poor. Would like to hear more from him.

Fungo, what do you make of these posts? What is your current read on Shock? And for the heck of it, did you find anything suspicious about the "joke" wagon that was started on you at the beginning of the day? Which one of the low-hanging fruit (Vinnie/Orange/Sam) is being pushed the hardest by maf?

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #442 - 05/29/16 at 16:52:42

Vote Count (as of reply #439):

ORANGE.exe (4): ALAKTORN, Timothy, no control, Yoshistar

Vinnie927 (3): ~~theyounggun,~~ ~~Honko,~~ TvK, Racer727, DBMK64

Sam F (3): Honko, Vinnie927, Zarkov

Racer727 (2): Lafungo, kyleb30, ~~no control~~

Honko (1): ORANGE.exe, ~~Vinnie927~~

Shock (1): Darius

ALAKTORN (1): Sportsguy001

TvK (1): Shock

DBMK64 (1): ~~Sportsguy001,~~ theyounggun

theyounggun (0): ~~DBMK64,~~ ~~kyleb30~~

Lafungo (0): ~~Shock,~~ ~~Vinnie927,~~ ~~Racer727,~~ ~~Yoshistar,~~ ~~Sam F,~~ ~~βΓαδθπ~~

Yoshistar (0): ~~no control~~

The Gaff (Tom1) (0): ~~Lafungo,~~ ~~Zarkov~~

Day 1 ends on Monday, May 30 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in ~15 hours.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #445 - 05/29/16 at 16:55:03

DansGame wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:49:12:

Alaktorn: Page 1 of this thread http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1463202533/0

Also if you click on his profile it says he's 11.

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I hope I don’t get modkilled for metagaming too hard on this, but that definitely makes his improved posting from his previous game look a lot scummier. O_o

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Reply #446 - 05/29/16 at 16:56:37

The more I read into it, the more suspicious I become of Zarkov. He started off with that vote on Tom1, which he already admitted was a bad thing to do at that moment. Then he finally unvotes and he calls out Shock for fluffposting and not scumhunting. The only thing Shock has to do is say "but I am" and suddenly all of Zarkov's suspicions disappear. And I really don't like the way he just jumped on the Sam wagon by just sheeping Honko (a quite universal town read at this point).

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #449 - 05/29/16 at 17:02:42

J-Cop wrote on 05/29/16 at 15:10:44:

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:40:51:

&b wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:13:41:

Time to get serious.
Yes my post was a joke, as it was only early D1. But I soon went to sleep after that and I've just returned from a day out, so I will be more active from here on out.

I'm not sure about Orange. He could possibly be scum, but as it is his first game I'm not 100%. Orange, can you post your scum and town reads?

Asks Orange to post, but doesn’t vote him to pressure (at this point Orange had 1 vote, mine, I think). I would expect Orange to post after that if they were m/m, though.

I don't mind that he didn't pressure him with a vote. What I don't like is that he said he would be more active from now on and then disappeared again. But either way, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for day one since he still reminds of himself from the previous game, and there are at least a handful of other players who look bad right now. I have no problem with people pressuring him, but I don't think we should lynch him D1.

And, J-Cop, I want you to step it up too. You have a vote. Use it. The only reads you have given so far are a slight town read on Dan. A not-maf read on Sam, because he plays the same he did last game. And a, I guess, slight maf-read on Lafungo, because he plays differently compared to last game. In this post you even mention "at least a handful of other players who look bad right now". Who are these players? Why aren't you voting them? What are your reasons to think that they look bad?

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