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Reply #400 - 05/29/16 at 13:29:45
 
For now, at least.
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Reply #401 - 05/29/16 at 13:30:34
 
TvK wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:12:56:
no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:02:55:
Thank you for your answer racer. I would like to ask you 1 more question. What are your opinion on Darius, Honko and Shock?

Since you answered i will  [vote]unvote[/vote]

@shock - i see Darius is one of your biggest town leans, could you elaborate on this? I honestly fail to see this at all.


What was so good about Racer's post that it convinced you to unvote him? Was your vote only on Racer because you wanted him to answer a question? What do you think of his latest post asking TYG why he thought Dan was scummy? Did he just not read the thread or do you think he's trying to pick up some free town cred by asking irrelevant questions?


I said that i will put a vote on Racer until he answers and that is what i did. Racer change in playing style is very interesting, this is why i'm trying to communicate with him as much as possible. I thought he might be mafia based on the huge change he made before i saw Dan mentioning it. I'm not very happy it got out so quickly because i think we could have handled it better.

I'm definitely not happy seeing racer asking something that has been answered before, but i don't think it was strategy. Honestly, if you repeat answers that are answered, it only looks bad for you and this is something mafia would be very careful about.

Based on his answers i do feel a bit better about him now. He was my biggest maf lean before last few posts.
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Reply #402 - 05/29/16 at 13:35:40
 
Racer727 wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:21:31:
TvK, what do you think about DBMK64, Lafungo and Zarkov? They have received heat for being maf and iirc you haven't posted much about them.


I've actually made a big post about why I thought Dan was suspicious. Maybe they didn't mention that in your forum. I've been asking people questions about Zarkov and I even talked with him about why I thought his vote on Tom1 was bad. I'm slightly suspicious of him at the moment, but not as much as my stronger maf reads. As for Lafungo, I think the next couple of posts he'll make (at least I hope to see him here as soon as possible) will be the most vital for my read on him. For now, I have a null-read.
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Reply #403 - 05/29/16 at 13:44:09
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:29:45:
For now, at least.


And do you feel the same about Orange?

J-Cop: any thoughts on my play now? Who's your top suspect? Why aren't you voting anyone?

Kyle: any change on your Racer suspicion? What's your read on TYG?
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Reply #404 - 05/29/16 at 13:46:44
 
I like TvK’s latest few posts. Willing to give a slight town lean.
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Reply #405 - 05/29/16 at 13:49:06
 
Shock, how do you feel about TvK now? You had him as (7, 6).
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Reply #406 - 05/29/16 at 13:52:23
 
Racer is the person I'm most confident is town.  His new posting style makes me more sure he is town.  It doesn't make sense to me that he would drastically change if he was mafia.

Darius is asking questions very much the same way lafungo did last game, but he hasn't done that this game.  Don't know what to make of that.

Brandon and orange are too new to figure out their affiliation.  

Leaning town for vinnie.  He seems like a townie trying extremely hard to find mafia in a inefficient way
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Reply #407 - 05/29/16 at 14:02:34
 
Who are you most confident is mafia, Tyler?
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Reply #408 - 05/29/16 at 14:03:12
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:52:23:
Racer is the person I'm most confident is town.  His new posting style makes me more sure he is town.  It doesn't make sense to me that he would drastically change if he was mafia.

Darius is asking questions very much the same way lafungo did last game, but he hasn't done that this game.  Don't know what to make of that.

Brandon and orange are too new to figure out their affiliation.  

Leaning town for vinnie.  He seems like a townie trying extremely hard to find mafia in a inefficient way


Is ALAK still your number one scumread? And if those people are town to you, do you think that there are a couple of scum trying to push the rest of town towards lynching them? Or are the players pushing the hardest town and will maf slip along on the wagons as the day goes on?
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Reply #409 - 05/29/16 at 14:04:19
 
Of course his posting style would change if he was maf, he's under suspicion.  I spent the whole last game as maf trying to adapt. I'm not saying racer is maf even though I think he is.  I'm just pointing out that I can see him change his style both ways.
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Reply #410 - 05/29/16 at 14:04:45
 
TvK wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:14:45:
And to add to my post, Zoran, I can't remember your opinion on Vinnie or Sam. What do you think of them? Or the people voting them? And what do you think of Shock scumreading me?


I see Vinnie as town at this point. He is playing the same game as last time, i didn't see anyone cover for him and no one shut him up.

Sam has time working against him same as for brandon and orange. I don't have any strong leans on these guys, but at this point they look like useless town or low profile mafia.

Shock and i seam to disagree on a quite a few things, his scum read on you is one of them.

As for people voting for Sam and Vinnie, in general i don't think mafia has targeted any of them in large numbers. I said i think Vinnie is town in my eyes now, but i understand why people think he might be scum. As for Sam F/brandon/orange we definitely need some heat on these guys.

I understand the reasoning that we don't want to lynch an inactive because of the info, but i think mafia is too powerful this game and inactive players might hurt us a lot.

Until end of night 3 there will be 9 dead people probably. 5 of those will be mafia unless doctor gets really lucky. Other 4 are town vig and 3 lynches. As i stated before, i'm not very optimistic about lynch success ratio this time around. If we go 8-1 on this there are 8 town left with 4 inactive people it is over and then there is a possible mod kill for Gaff. I would much rather lynch an inactive now then with more info on D2 and D3.

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Reply #411 - 05/29/16 at 14:05:29
 
TvK wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:35:40:
Racer727 wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:21:31:
TvK, what do you think about DBMK64, Lafungo and Zarkov? They have received heat for being maf and iirc you haven't posted much about them.


I've actually made a big post about why I thought Dan was suspicious. Maybe they didn't mention that in your forum. I've been asking people questions about Zarkov and I even talked with him about why I thought his vote on Tom1 was bad. I'm slightly suspicious of him at the moment, but not as much as my stronger maf reads. As for Lafungo, I think the next couple of posts he'll make (at least I hope to see him here as soon as possible) will be the most vital for my read on him. For now, I have a null-read.

I forgot you were the one to make the large post about Dan, my apologies, I completely forgot about that.
What do you mean "in my forum"?
Thanks for answering my questions.
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Reply #412 - 05/29/16 at 14:14:12
 
Darius wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:44:09:
J-Cop: any thoughts on my play now? Who's your top suspect? Why aren't you voting anyone?

My thoughts on you are much better now than they were at the start of day one.  Your first few posts looked like incomplete thoughts that you wanted others to complete for you, and I really didn't understand it.  You explained your reasoning after I asked you to, and I'm satisfied with your answer.  Since then, you've been asking a lot of questions to keep the discussion going.  That doesn't give me a strong read either way on you, but at least it keeps people talking.

I don't want to beat a dead horse talking about the newcomers who haven't contributed anything, but Bradon and Orange have been online since the game started and haven't done a thing to contribute to the game.  Sam hasn't either, but he played the same way in the last game when he was town, so I'm not jumping to a conclusion on him yet.  If people are voting between the 3 of them, I'd recommend going for Bradon or Orange right now.

Lafungo is playing differently than he did last game.  He was town in that game, and was active on day one asking a lot of questions to keep people talking.  I don't recall him making many accusations, but he did enough to keep the conversations going.  He hasn't done that at all this time.  I don't see why is play style would change so much if he were on the same side as last time.  As of now, he's my biggest suspect.

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Reply #413 - 05/29/16 at 14:15:20
 
Heading out now, here's my current thoughts in case I'm not able to log in again before day ends.

I think we should lynch one of the inactives (Sam, kyle, Bradon, Orange). I currently prefer Sam because his activity matches classic lurking scum really closely: joke post early on, disappear until called out, conveniently pop back up to make an incredibly obvious read that many have already made, promise more activity, then disappear again. If he starts actually contributing, then I'd move onto kyle, then Bradon, then Orange. (kyle's few posts strike me as more scummy than the others because they're commenting on current discussions without adding anything, whereas Bradon and Orange seem just purely inactive.)

I don't want a Vinnie or Racer lynch today. At this point it's hard to tell whether they're inexperienced mafia or inexperienced town, and as Shock pointed out, if it's the latter it would be pretty easy for scum to hop on their lynches. They're posting a lot, which makes them more useful than the inactives regardless of their alignment. If they're town, we get info from how others interact with their posts, and if they're mafia, based on their posting habits so far they seem pretty likely to either slip up eventually or get nervous and stop posting. If either of those happen, then I'd be on board with lynching them.

I feel the same way about Dan. He hasn't been as suspicious as Vinnie or Racer but some of his posts have struck me as off (like his very early attempt to connect Shock + Racer as maf buddies, which felt like a huge stretch at that point in the game), but I'm not yet confident that they make him maf, and he's posting enough that I don't think he's a good lynch for today.

I'm absolutely against a Tom lynch today unless he shows up and claims Town Consort.

Clark has been extremely scummy so far, although his post on page 16 was a little bit of an improvement. He hasn't commented on any of the interactions in the game yet, just inactives. I wanna hear his thoughts on what's actually going on in the game. So far this feels like mafia Clark. If all the inactives show up, I'd be down for a Clark lynch.

Yoshistar is the only other one I can think of who I'd be ok with lynching today.
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Reply #414 - 05/29/16 at 14:17:20
 
To correct my error - Until end of night 3 there will be 9 dead people probably. 5 of those will be mafia unless doctor gets really lucky

5 of those will be town
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Reply #415 - 05/29/16 at 14:20:27
 
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Reply #416 - 05/29/16 at 14:25:49
 
no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:04:45:
I understand the reasoning that we don't want to lynch an inactive because of the info, but i think mafia is too powerful this game and inactive players might hurt us a lot.

Until end of night 3 there will be 9 dead people probably. 5 of those will be mafia unless doctor gets really lucky. Other 4 are town vig and 3 lynches. As i stated before, i'm not very optimistic about lynch success ratio this time around. If we go 8-1 on this there are 8 town left with 4 inactive people it is over and then there is a possible mod kill for Gaff. I would much rather lynch an inactive now then with more info on D2 and D3.


That’s a good assessment of powers. While with Shock’s game I thought we had the advantage, this time it looks like Mafia has a tremendous advantage, so long as the Odd-Night Vigilante is alive at least. You say we have 4 kills, but I think it’s likely that the Even-Nights Vigilante won’t shoot; it would take a pretty solid read to do so. So I’d say 8 dead people and 7–1 is more likely than 9 dead 8–1. It’s also possible to get lucky with the Doctor so I don’t think it’s as bad as you say, but I definitely agree I feel like mafia has the advantage. I’m not sure from this premise derives the conclusion to kill inactives, though.

Gaff won’t get modkilled btw, Fank is a substitute.
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Reply #417 - 05/29/16 at 14:26:00
 
Sam F has 3 votes, let's add a 2nd one to [vote]orange.exe[/vote].

I expect to hear more from sam/orange/brandon trio. Lets hope you guys wake up while i sleep.
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Reply #418 - 05/29/16 at 14:30:18
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:25:49:
Gaff won’t get modkilled btw, Fank is a substitute.


Then lynching Gaff is definitely a bad choice. I doubt he will post.
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Reply #419 - 05/29/16 at 14:40:51
 
J-Cop wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:14:12:
I don't want to beat a dead horse talking about the newcomers who haven't contributed anything, but Bradon and Orange have been online since the game started and haven't done a thing to contribute to the game.  Sam hasn't either, but he played the same way in the last game when he was town, so I'm not jumping to a conclusion on him yet.  If people are voting between the 3 of them, I'd recommend going for Bradon or Orange right now.

I don’t think Sam was like this last game. I mean, yeah, he was scummy and inactive, but he actually had a reason for it IIRC (school or something?). This time around, he actually posted “Time to get serious.”, “I will be more active from here on out.” and still hasn’t done shit. Here’s his 2nd post out of 3, the only relevant one:

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Time to get serious.
Yes my post was a joke, as it was only early D1. But I soon went to sleep after that and I've just returned from a day out, so I will be more active from here on out.

I'm not sure about Orange. He could possibly be scum, but as it is his first game I'm not 100%. Orange, can you post your scum and town reads?

Asks Orange to post, but doesn’t vote him to pressure (at this point Orange had 1 vote, mine, I think). I would expect Orange to post after that if they were m/m, though.
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Reply #420 - 05/29/16 at 15:07:53
 
no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:17:20:
To correct my error - Until end of night 3 there will be 9 dead people probably. 5 of those will be mafia unless doctor gets really lucky

5 of those will be town

Did he just slipped? Shocked

Definitely want to hear more of Sam and orange, I'll put pressure on [vote]orange.exe[/vote] to make a tie if I added up the votes correctly.

Time to sleep now, school tomorrow -_-
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Reply #421 - 05/29/16 at 15:10:44
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:40:51:
&b wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:13:41:
Time to get serious.
Yes my post was a joke, as it was only early D1. But I soon went to sleep after that and I've just returned from a day out, so I will be more active from here on out.

I'm not sure about Orange. He could possibly be scum, but as it is his first game I'm not 100%. Orange, can you post your scum and town reads?

Asks Orange to post, but doesn’t vote him to pressure (at this point Orange had 1 vote, mine, I think). I would expect Orange to post after that if they were m/m, though.

I don't mind that he didn't pressure him with a vote.  What I don't like is that he said he would be more active from now on and then disappeared again.  But either way, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for day one since he still reminds of himself from the previous game, and there are at least a handful of other players who look bad right now.  I have no problem with people pressuring him, but I don't think we should lynch him D1.
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Reply #422 - 05/29/16 at 15:14:29
 
Darius wrote on 05/29/16 at 13:44:09:
Kyle: any change on your Racer suspicion? What's your read on TYG?


My stance on Racer hasn't changed. I realize if he's town this will make me look very bad, but his change in styles is way too drastic, and he's seeming like he wants us to think he's town too much.

I don't have a strong opinion on TYG. He's been posting, but I don't think he's really added much to the conversation. He made that one post about his mafia theories, but I'm leaving that on the back burner because it really doesn't mean much and has no real merit to it (yet).

I'm going to try and read back through the last 100ish posts, make sure i haven't missed anything
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Reply #423 - 05/29/16 at 15:16:23
 
Sorry for not getting back to people. I'm AFK for a bit, I was chatting with the neighbors and having a few drinks and now we're about to watch a movie. Will be back later. I'm still in favor of a Zarkov lynch.
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Reply #424 - 05/29/16 at 15:18:41
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 05/29/16 at 15:07:53:
no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:17:20:
To correct my error - Until end of night 3 there will be 9 dead people probably. 5 of those will be mafia unless doctor gets really lucky

5 of those will be town

Did he just slipped? Shocked

Definitely want to hear more of Sam and orange, I'll put pressure on [vote]orange.exe[/vote] to make a tie if I added up the votes correctly.

Time to sleep now, school tomorrow -_-


And what slip would that be?
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