Vinnie927 wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:30:22:


Adding to my last post: you now say "I've been thinking about it...". Does that effectively mean that you did not at all think about it when voting Sam F? If you're so concerned about Shock's innocence, why did you put your vote in a totally different place? Once again, just because you had the feeling that a Sam F wagon could take away votes from yourself?

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:27:22:

I don’t know if this is bad timing but I wanna mention that I probably won’t be around tomorrow. (9:50pm atm here for reference.) I’m going to the gym and definitely won’t be able to come back home in time before EoD since Brett’s timing is 1 hour earlier than Shock’s and Shock’s was pretty tight on me already. I may be able to post some before going to the gym, and I should be around for some hours still as I go to sleep late, but yeah, just a heads up. If anyone wants anything from me now’s the best time.

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:46:32:


Tbf he already addressed this, though I don't remember the exact post.

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:46:32:


It might be just me, but three of the five people I call out there are being put under a lot of pressure right now. My idea of a catch up post is to point out as many things that people haven't talked about yet, which I think are important enough to be talked about. I obviously was aware of the conversation between Darius, Honko and you, but at that point, I had nothing useful to add.

Also the random voting stage is indeed a good way to get discussions started, but everyone with even the slightest bit of feeling for this game understands when the joking phase is over. My biggest problem is that people still were joke voting the same person after that stage was over. This is the easiest way to get an unquestioned vote on the biggest wagon at the very moment. I don't like that one bit.

Alaktorn: Orange only has one vote right now, yours, so who's your second choice? Are you going to move your vote there before you go?

By the way, Zarkov, saying I've not been scumhunting is equivalent to putting me on your scum radar. (Because real townies spend their time scumhunting -> not scumhunting implies not real townie).

You never told me what you thought my posts were instead doing this game, so I assume you stand by it.

Is this fair/accurate?

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:02:41:


Initially I thought your posts were fluff, but your recent posts have been scumhunting. Or at least provoking discussion. I was leaning scum on you, but youve done enough to go off my radar now.

Im still leaning Sam, or Racer. So imma stick my vote on Sam. He is trying to cruise under everyone radar by not doing very much at all.

[vote]Sam F[/vote]

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:53:25:

I wrote a few of my leans before:
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/29/16 at 09:32:35:

It’s hard to have reads this early on. Tons of players are 50/50s to me. TvK, Lafungo, Timothy, Dan, Darius… I only just noticed that Lafungo only made 6 posts, lol. That’s pretty poor. Would like to hear more from him. Sam/Bradon are 2 scummy low posters, Bradon more so than Sam. They need to post more as well. I’m not sure what to think of TYG’s wild accusations, having the whole mafia team figured out D1 is pretty great. lol

I should have enough time before gym tomorrow to change my vote, so I don’t think I’ll change it yet. It looks like we’re having Vinnie/Racer wagons, I might join one of them but I’m not sure. I don’t think lynching them gives us too much information? Vinnie’s been so random that even if he flips mafia I don’t think we could tell much. Has Racer posted much in terms of his reads? I may have missed it. I still might have more of a town lean on both of them rather than mafia too, so there’s that. I don’t think we have a good lynch (when ever is there one D1?), so I’m OK with whoever gets lynched for the most part.

Timothy wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:54:45:

Have I? I missed the start of D1 and (I explained this already) I was in a flame war in another forum so I wasn’t in the best mood to play mafia. Last game was also really stressful for me (I mentioned it in-game) so I’ll probably be less active this game simply because I don’t want to kill myself over it like I did last game.

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:06:52:

On the one hand you're saying Yoshistar and Racer are m/m for sure, but on the other hand you say Racer is "likely mafia" if Yoshistar flips mafia. How certain are you in your read, and what if one or the other flips town?

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/29/16 at 11:18:14:

If that's you're reasoning for Shock and Bradon necessarily being opposite alignments, then it's piss poor. Targeting a scumbuddy is standard, especially if they post something scummy on D1. It also doesn't explain in the slightest how Shock flipping town implies that Bradon is mafia.

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:26:20:

Why is Kyle your strongest town lean? I don't think you've mentioned him at all so far.

no control wrote on 05/29/16 at 10:26:15:

Sorry, I haven't had enough time to post, I've just checked on my phone when I had time, so that's why I have not posted in a while; I just didn't have enough time to give a decent post.

I guess I should post my list of reads.


Sam F: Hasn't posted much, he's only posted twice, and his largest post was "I'm going to start taking the game seriously now" but then he hasn't posted since. This gives me the vibes of 'I'm a Mafia, I need to look town but I don't know what to so, so I'll stay low and claim I was trying to get reads before I post'

Lafungo: Dude has barely posted all day. And at least two attacked me. He also hasn't posted any reads; I think something scummy is going on with him.

ORANGE: Repeat Walter? I've already exhausted my thought s on him so I won't elaborate.

Bradon: I expect more from him. All he's given us is a joke vote he has retracted. He's either a noob/lazy town scared to post and look scummy or a  noob Mafia afraid to get caught in the act and reveal possible scum buddies.

Vinnie: I'd be voting ORANGE of Vinnie wasn't so darn scummy. All his posts are off to me. I can't really explain it, but he gives me some strong scum vibes.

TvK: Certainly been playing the aggressor here. Could be Mafia except he's been aggressive to everyone getting heat. Either he's trying to earn town cred or he is town. I believe it's the latter but I'm not entirely sure. Tell me, what's your experience for Mafia games?

And Sportsguy: He's given us his leads, but he didn't explain even when I asked. That alone speaks Mafia vibes. I'm curious as to why he believes DBMK64 is Mafia because Dan (That's your name DBMK64, right?) hasn't received very much heat that he hasn't answered.

Speaking of which, I still don't know what to think of Dan. Everyone else that I haven't brought up is because I don't know what to think or I'm leaning town.