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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1125 - 06/02/16 at 07:43:04
 
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Don't end the day

Just to say my posts since 1045 were crap in order to get the mafia out. They have been hidding and this is why i waited so long.

Now come my real thoughts...
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Reply #1126 - 06/02/16 at 07:43:51
 
HEY TOWNIES!!!!

I have been gathering a lot of stuff during d2. I didn't post everything right away beacuse
i wanted to see how people react prior to me sharing this info. I think now is the right time to do so.
I will present it in series of posts starting from this one. I know it is a lot, but please read it carefully.

First thing i want to say is that my posts #1045 (2nd part) and #1047 are crap. I lied there on how i feel because i wanted to see how YS thing will go.

To understaind what i want to imply when i talk about Sam and Zarkov in next posts, you 1st have to know what i think about them.

I have been holding on this 2 facts since start of D2:

a) Sam F didn't finish his vote on any of the 2 other wagons

b) 2 strongest townies started the wagon on Zarkov

Let me elaborate...Do you guys think a mafia member would leave his vote on Orange while his survival is on the line? Do you guys think mafia would allow
one of their members (who was online - evidence presented below) to vote for some guy with 0 votes while he is close to being killed and let everything go to chance?

I will give you my answer... there is no way in hell. Sam is town!

Evidance of Sam being online:
[quote author=222D273A292F362D2726262D430 link=1464210503/650#661 date=1464622753]TvK wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:33:40:
Bradon and Sam, I see you both lurking. Get in here, we have 26 minutes left.


There is another thing about sam. Look at his 1st post D2.


&b wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:28:39:
Doctor.... Shock revealed he was Cop fairly early on, so he was going to be an obvious target. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of role block or no action at all.


So Sam is saying that it is a possibility that doctor didn't take action at all.
Really, this is what maf would suggest for one of their own to say 1st thing into day 2 with a lot of heat already on him D1? No chance if you ask me.

And for Zarkov...there was an attempt to save someone last day and that someone is Zarkov. Look at that wagon, 2 strongest town started it. Another confirmed town Racer also voted for him.

All the heat went right to Sam as a probable scum save. I was waiting for someone to at least say that Zarkov is also a possible scum save until finally Sportsguy said it

Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:17:52:
Zarkov was also in very bad shape at the end of the day.  He also benefited by the racer wagon.


And then Dan picks up on it as well:

DansGame wrote on 05/31/16 at 17:27:55:
 I was more suspicious of Sam F than Zarkov but I feel like things really turned once the Zarkov wagon got heat


Yesssss

Then Dan's post #900 and then he got stuck on it later which is good.

Conclusion: Sam is Town, Zarkov is Mafia



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Reply #1127 - 06/02/16 at 07:44:36
 
My 2nd post is on a guy who i consider mafia 100%

ZARKOV

This post is just gold:

Zarkov wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:47:14:
These people jumped on the last minute Racer wagon after Shock suggested it:

Tim
TvK (who we now know is town)
Lafungo
Yoshistar
Zoran

This makes me think Sam F is maf, and they saw an opportunity to save him. Lafungo definitely seems different this game, and I suspected him Day 1. More so now. Yoshistar also seems pretty sketchy aswell judging by his activity (or lack of it despite being online) at eod.

[vote]Lafungo[/vote]


As i said this post is just a straight up lie. Shock didn't suggest the racer wagon, Lafungo wanted to vote him before Shock came to this story. Klye is the one who made the push and turned it around. Check out my post #862 for the order in which things went down.


Another push for Sam and Lafungo:

Zarkov wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:01:39:
Reading back on Sam and Lafungo, im pretty certain now Sam is maf. Im still not entirely sure on Lafungo, but hes less of a maf lean to me than Sam is.

[vote]Sam F[/vote]


Zarkov wrote on 06/01/16 at 05:51:11:
Im of the opinion that at least 1 maf was on the last minute Racer wagon eod, and hence we should focus at least some of our attention on to that. It was started by Shock who flipped town, so anyone who got on afterwards could be seen as scum trying to save Sam imo.


More attacks on Sam, no word on kyle at all and repeating the Shock lie.

Zarkov wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:08:24:
kyleb30 wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:03:17:
@zoran i'd like to get your thoughts on the end of D1 as well. You said you switched your vote to racer as we had a lot more to gain compared to lynching Sam. Was there any other reason why? What do you think we gained from that lynch?


Im guessing he means that we could learn a lot by looking at the people who jumped on Racer towards the end. Yoshis, and Lafungos seemed sketch to me. And it looked like it was an attempt to save Sam. Though I guess you could say it didnt work and rng saved him. But still, that last minute wagon on Racer mustve had at least one maf on it.

Anyway, im out for the night. I need sleepypoos.


Just keeps on bashing on YS, Sam and Lafungo.

I would also like to add that i asked Zarkov some questions on 4-5 occasions and he didn't answer. I repeated myself and he still avoided it.
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Reply #1128 - 06/02/16 at 07:45:21
 
My 3rd post is on a guy who i consider mafia 99%

KYLE

So he is the one who started the racer lynch with this post, it was not shock as Zarkov continues to claim:

kyleb30 wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:34:37:
Racer727 wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:09:19:
Let me explain. Zarkov is a strong player at this game, he pushes hard and questions what he sees. When he's town he can be a nightmare.


I may be crazy, but does this seem like a slip to anyone else? Nightmare to who? If you're town, you'd be glad to have Zarkov as town, not terrified of him.


This was 25 minutes before eod.

kyleb30 wrote on 05/31/16 at 10:03:42:
I stand by my Racer kill. If you read through my D1 posts, you'll see I was suspicious of him the most of the day. I regret tunneling in on him so hard, because I wasn't able to get much from many others, but nothing I can do about that now. Just need to keep an open mind the rest of the game.


By this it is clear this was not a setup for maf, this is what Kyle thought was the right thing to do, but then when Klyle sees this:

kyleb30 wrote on 05/31/16 at 10:03:42:
The reason I mentioned that was in case Racer turned up town (like he did), I found it very suspicious that those 3 all jumped on the wagon in quick succession.


sudenlly these guys are suspicious.

To sum it up, 25 minutes before end of day Kyle jumps on a guy who he thinks is mafia, and then he blames people who follow him in case racer flips town.

Smiley

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kyleb30 wrote on 05/31/16 at 11:39:44:
no control wrote on 05/31/16 at 10:52:15:
Kyle how do you feel about Sam and Zarkov now?


I'm not really sure what to think. Pretty much all the thoughts I've developed are useless now.

For Sam, I'm leaning maf on him. He's not adding much to the discussion. His only contribution thus far on D2 is claiming he knew Shock was cop and then listing a bunch of replies that really don't indicate. Plus his end of D1 actions aren't sitting well with me.

As for Zarkov, I'm debating about him in my head. If you really want to take Shock's very first post as a subtle roleclaim, you can also consider that list Zarkov may have been his N0 peek (remember, Cop was given the name of a random town with his role PM). But on the other hand, Shock went after him so hard, it makes that tough to believe. I need to read closer into his posts, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now with a super slight town lean.


Another terrible post. Tries to wash away his D1 sins, then maf lean on Sam and for Zarkov goes into speculation about what i think about Shock...

kyleb30 wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:01:59:
Zarkov pointed out in his list what I was getting at with my post about the 3 people who jumped ship immediately to racer at the end of D1. These are people I'd like to look into further D2, as well as Sam F since to me his posts come across as scummy.

So I'll start there. Sam F, what do you think about the people on this list?


More attacks on Sam.

99% comes from the fact that some people i consider mafia showed suspicion on Klye, but i think mafia listed some of their own in their suspect lists to cover the tracks if it goes bad. Another example is Zarkov's obsession with Lafungo.

kyleb30 wrote on 05/30/16 at 07:50:53:
In case this turns out sour, TvK, Shock, and Tim all jumped from Zarkov to Racer. Good information to know.


This was a slip and mafia knows it.

I would also like to add that he voted pretty early on Klye and if you look at http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafiashock.cgi he showed up in the last quarter of d1 when it was time to save Zarkov, but he was not here in the 3rd quarter when Tvk was almost talking to himself trying to get the discussion going. In that 3rd quarter main suspects were Sam and Vinnie and this were good times for mafia i think.
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Reply #1129 - 06/02/16 at 07:46:02
 
My 4th post is on a guy who i consider mafia 90%

HONKO

Early light attack on Shock about most useful post until that point.

Check out my post #222 on Honko and how Lafungo comes to the rescue.

This one speaks by itself:

Honko wrote on 05/29/16 at 10:57:13:
Went back through the thread and yeah Sam's only made the one post and it's a pretty bad one. Sam F? more like S Maf.

kyle and Bradon have both been inactive as well but their few posts don't look quite as bad to me as Sam's single post. For reference:
&b wrote on 05/28/16 at 14:01:25:
Well, BGT happened. Oops.
How dare the 945 master die?  *shakes fist*
As people are messing around with the votes...
[vote]Lafungi[/vote]


This is the kind of inactive that we have to worry about. The ones who post just enough to not get modkilled/replaced but no more.

[vote]Sam F[/vote]


Honko wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:01:39:
I will also be gone for most of the second half of D1. I'll be around for another couple of hours, and might have a few chances to check in after that, but probably not. For now I'm feeling pretty comfortable with my vote on Sam.


Honko wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:15:20:
Heading out now, here's my current thoughts in case I'm not able to log in again before day ends.

I think we should lynch one of the inactives (Sam, kyle, Bradon, Orange). I currently prefer Sam because his activity matches classic lurking scum really closely: joke post early on, disappear until called out, conveniently pop back up to make an incredibly obvious read that many have already made, promise more activity, then disappear again.

Yoshistar is the only other one I can think of who I'd be ok with lynching today.


Pretty much set on Sam, also adds YS

And then he come on d2

Honko wrote on 05/31/16 at 17:41:34:
Yoshistar™ wrote on 05/31/16 at 14:35:10:
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/28/16 at 16:36:10:
No one has slipped up yet
Shock and Darius seem to be prime candidates, did I miss anyone else?


Honko:
Quote:
Yoshistar and you


Seems like you never explained why I'm suspicious Honko, am I still on your maf list?

Yes

[vote]Yoshistar[/vote]


Tring to get something going on YS with Zarkov and Lafungo.

Check out my post #895 and J-cop #902

Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 08:14:49:
Of the people currently voting for Sam or Clark, the people I trust the least are Vinnie, Clark, kyle, Dan, and Yoshistar. I have had scum leans on all of these guys since mid-D1, you can go back and check my big post from D1 if you want to. The fact that people on that list make up the majority of the voters for both Sam and Clark should make it obvious why I mistrust those lynches.

Meanwhile, nobody has tried to join me on Yoshistar, which continues to suggest to me that scum wants to keep attention elsewhere.


Another push on YS.

I have checked, your last D1 lynch proposal was Sam, kyle, Bradon, Orange and YS, now you added a few more. This is a pretty big maf list. Interesting that Dan is there.

Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 08:40:49:
Darius wrote on 05/31/16 at 22:56:52:
Why are Sam and Zarkov less scummy to you today, Honko? Can you identify examples of Yoshistar's apparent strategy to do what's safe for him and his scumbuddies?

I'll try to reply to this before I go to work. Not sure I'll have time to find the examples for either question though. The short version: Sam is posting more and it's actually relevant to the game now. Clark is posting more and actually seems to be interested in scumhunting rather than just tunneling inactives and ignoring everyone else. They still both look pretty bad, but Yoshistar has surpassed them on my list. For Yoshistar, I would refer you to TvK's excellent D1 post about his constant wishy-washiness, and to his voting history. Every vote he's made has been incredibly safe.


To zarkov rescue. Zarkov is avoiding answering questions and is not contibuting almost at all.

And there he goes again

Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 09:20:45:
Ok yeah I don't have time to pull together a big post with quotes this morning. I'll be out tonight but might have a chance to quickly log in. Otherwise I'll be back tomorrow morning, a couple of hours before EOD.


Check my posts #1018 and #1021

Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 17:22:19:
The reaction of guys like J-Cop and Zoran to my case on Yoshistar worries me. I stated my case on the person who I felt was scummiest pretty early in the day (we were only about 10 hours in, and it was my first chance to post that day). Rather than comment on whether or not they agree that Yoshistar is scummy, they seem to be attacking me for daring to bring up a lynch other than Clark or Sam. If I were just bringing it up for the first time right now, sure, it would be a little late. But we were only 20% of the way into the day. I think I made it pretty clear that I agree Sam and Clark are both scummy, but I wanted to spark some discussion on Yoshistar because I think he's even worse. Why are you guys trying to shut that down, especially so early in the day?

[vote]unvote[/vote]


Implying we are trying to shut the discussion and then he unvotes. Convinced townie will push on his believes, insted he unvotes to avoid heat and disappears again. Not very townie behaviour.

Check out my post #1045 (good until last question "am i wrong?")

If you have no time to play, you will not get annoyed when people talk about your inactivity if you are town.

Last update:
Waiting for honko vote, guess he gave up on Zarkov after 7-6 on him.
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Reply #1130 - 06/02/16 at 07:46:54
 
My 5th post is on a guy who i consider mafia 75%

LAFUNGO

Lafungo wrote on 06/01/16 at 19:17:02:
I believe that Zarkov was Shock's N0 peek.

I understand that people are going to see this and clamor about Shock's push on Zarkov throughout D1, but I think that Shock's opening post is much more important.

Shock knew from the start that if/when he'd die and be revealed cop that town would go back and comb through his posts for hints on his scans. Despite appearing to be a joke post on D1, in retrospect his opening post could easily be construed as a hint because of his joke roleclaim. From there, it's a given that people would assume his Zarkov "peek" was in fact real and left as a clue. He even mentioned in his big role post early on that cop should leave behind "subtle" info for town to find. I think that Shock putting a fake N0 peek in his opening post doesn't make sense with this in mind, as he'd know it would confuse town.
Of course, this all happened before any action took place, and Shock couldn't predict how the day would go. I think that his Zarkov push was done in part to cover himself from mafia suspicion, because one of mafia's main goals is to figure out who the cop is, and his opening post would have been much more telling for mafia than for town. I also think that Shock pushing Zarkov was a way for him to prod Zarkov for his opinions in a "natural" way, since Zarkov would be the only person that Shock could trust D1.
Saying that Shock wouldn't go after Zarkov is also disingenuous, because Shock would know that Zarkov was vanilla and wasn't that important to town, particularly if he wasn't contributing "well". It was also much more important for him to cover himself as cop than protect a vanilla townie.


This is not only defending Zarkov, but post itself is bad. If a cop left any clues on his n0 read it would be on the most obvious place to avoid any confusion. Most obvious place is his list

Lafungo wrote on 05/31/16 at 09:15:19:
I was also uncertain about Kyle's intentions as I was reading his posts during EoD, but I let it slide because there wasn't much time to think and Racer still seemed liked the best lynch to me. It's possible that Kyle/Sam are m/m, and that Kyle saw an opportunity to save Sam with Racer's "slip". I don't think Kyle had voiced any suspicion of Racer prior to EoD.


Against sam again and Kyle. However marks kayle and sam as m/m pair and votes for sam....and i guess when sam flips town, kyle would less likely be maf for Lafungo.

Lafungo wrote on 05/31/16 at 11:24:59:
I stand by what I said EoD1: I think that Zarkov was the worst of the 3 possible lynches. I'm not particularly suspicious of him, and he contributed more than both Sam and Racer did D1 (and I would expect that trend to continue as the game continues).
I think his suspicions of me are reasonable, although I feel he might be tunneling a bit. I'd like to hear his thoughts on others players more, as his stance towards me has been made very clear.

I'm mostly suspicious of Sam and Kyle currently. I'm also perpetually frustrated by Yoshistar's posts, but I can't decide if he's mafia or useless town again.


Still hard on sam and no problem with Zarkov except his tunneling on Lafungo. Also adding YS here, slowly building up his case.

Kyle is suspicious but i see no votes on him, evertyhing goes Sam's way. Is mafia using Kyle's push D1 to clear their names? Meaning they realize that post about TvK, Shock, Timoty is bad and now they are trying to use it in their advantage.

In the end there is this Zarkov's obsession with Lafungo. This and kyle thing is a + for Lafungo, but i think it might be a trick.

On the other side there is push for Racer, low post count and same as kyle if you look at http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafiashock.cgi he showed up in the last quarter of d1 when it was time to save Zarkov, but he was not here in the 3rd quarter when Tvk was almost talking to himself trying to get the discussion going. In that 3rd quarter main suspects were Sam and Vinnie and this were good times for mafia i think.

Last update: sam and YS...

[quote author=1D3037243F363E510 link=1464210503/1075#1088 date=1464875174]I think that we should lynch Sam. A Yoshistar lynch is appealing, but won't yield nearly as much info as a Sam lynch.

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Reply #1131 - 06/02/16 at 07:47:04
 
Vote Count (as of reply #1128):




Zarkov (8): Yoshistar, no control, DBMK64, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Darius, theyounggun, Timothy, Honko

Sam F (5): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927, ORANGE.exe, Lafungo, no control, Sportsguy001

Yoshistar (1): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov, no control

Lafungo (1): Zarkov, Fank009

ALAKTORN (0): Sportsguy001

Vinnie927 (0): theyounggun

theyounggun (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe




With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority.

Day 1 will otherwise end on Thursday, June 2 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in 13 minutes.


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Reply #1132 - 06/02/16 at 07:47:37
 
My 6th post is on a guy who i consider mafia 65%

BRANDON

Check out my post #798

His posts D2

Bradon wrote on 05/31/16 at 19:55:10:
Ughhhhhhhhhhh....

Couldn't get on at any time today until 9:00pm(right now) Sad sorry guys



Bradon wrote on 06/01/16 at 09:01:23:
First of all, I just woke up and got to school.

Ok
this doesn't really give a reason why I can be maf... First if all (as you already stated), this post was from page 6 and reason #2 who was the one who started it? Shock at reply #9. And reason #3 other people(who are alive) also did it.


Bradon wrote on 06/01/16 at 09:55:11:
No I'm not saying that, I'm saying that I joined with the JOKE votes like other people did Tongue

Also, I don't see how that could be scummy... Can you explain how it is?


Asking freking questions again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bradon wrote on 06/01/16 at 10:24:37:
I won't be on for some time again due to STRICT teachers.. So ill be late for answering some questions. Smiley



I have to admit that this doesn't look like m/m

Lafungo wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:26:59:
Bradon wrote on 05/29/16 at 16:24:45:
What are your thoughts on the others who are posted beside me?

No, no. We want to hear YOUR thoughts. You can read other people's thoughts in the thread, because they've been posting.


I really liked this post from Lafungo.
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Reply #1133 - 06/02/16 at 07:49:14
 
My 7th post is about someone i consider i have no idea 50/50

DARIUS

Darius wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:36:06:
TYG's failure to do anything at the end of day yesterday despite being online for a while really bothered me, and his first post today doesn't make him look any better. I will:

[vote] theyounggun [/vote]

Actually agree with J-Cop on Kyle


This looks good for Darius if Kyle is maf. Maybe it is strategy, i already said i think mafia wants to wash their hands with Kyle accusations.

pressuring sam and YS: page 31

Darius wrote on 05/31/16 at 10:46:18:
TYG, Yoshistar, Sam and Kyle are all on my list. I think I've made most of those clear, and I'll be getting there on Sam depending on his answer. You're getting there too, Alaktorn, as your posts don't seem very genuine to me.


Puting sam and YS on the list again. Kyle is here as well, but is it because of the strat?

Darius wrote on 05/31/16 at 11:34:46:
Zoran: I think it's anti-town to not take a stand on the leading wagons and place your vote on one of them, even if you don't necessarily think either candidate is that scummy. I don't have that strong a read on Zarkov but I thought he was more likely to be mafia than Sam, because Sam's reaction to almost getting lynched read as frustrated townie to me, so I made that clear and said I'd vote for Zarkov. Now I'm revising my opinion because of Sam's early posts on this day, and if he doesn't reply soon then he's getting my vote.

Yoshistar: how did Shock throw away his chance? What do you think he should have done? How would he have killed anyone?

[vote]Sam F[/vote]



Still hitting YS and sam. Nothing definite about Zarkov, but he said Zarkov looked scummy.

Darius wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:19:20:
Tim: I didn't have a strong scum read on Zarkov and Racer's vote was the scummiest to me. I think I made all of this pretty clear. If your argument is that I'm too good at being mafia to look like mafia, then thanks, I guess, but I'm not sure what this post is getting at other than 'anyone could be mafia'.


No strong scum read on Zarkov

Darius wrote on 05/31/16 at 13:07:23:
Kyle: if you're thinking that some of the Racer wagon is mafia saving Sam, who do you think it is most likely to be?


+1 for Darius, this is good.

Darius kept the discussion going on D2, i think he was possibly n0 Zarkov town read (either him or Honko by my logic based on THE LIST).

He is always kind of late on Zarkov thing, voted for racer and pushed it a bit eod1, concentrating on Sam and YS...all this is a minus.

I have to say it is very hard for me to read Darius , maybe someone else can make something out of all this.
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Reply #1134 - 06/02/16 at 07:49:29
 
Vote Count (as of reply #1132):




Zarkov (8): Yoshistar, no control, DBMK64, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Darius, theyounggun, Timothy, Honko

Sam F (6): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927, ORANGE.exe, Lafungo, no control, Sportsguy001, no control

Yoshistar (1): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov, no control

Lafungo (1): Zarkov, Fank009

ALAKTORN (0): Sportsguy001

Vinnie927 (0): theyounggun

theyounggun (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe




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Day 1 will otherwise end on Thursday, June 2 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in 11 minutes.


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Reply #1135 - 06/02/16 at 07:50:04
 
My 8th post is about someone i consider town

YOSHISTAR

I would like zo repeat that my posts #1045 (2nd half) and #1047 are crap. I wanted to see what will happen here.

Yoshistar has voted Zarkov D1, he was on his wagon and followed Shock, Tvk, me, Timothy all the way in eod1.

He was the 1st guy who voted Zarkov D2.

YS wagon 3rd quarter D2: Yoshistar (3): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov


Yoshistar™ wrote on 05/31/16 at 08:42:51:
Zarkov is still on my scum radar, plus after reading J-cop's view on Kyle, he looks scummy as well.


Both zarkov and kyle going after YS on page 32

All these suspects went for YS together with Darius.

This pretty much shows this guy is town.
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1136 - 06/02/16 at 07:50:46
 
My 9th post is about OUR VERY OWN COP

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1st i would like to present THE LIST. If there is a clue for n0 read this is the place


Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 12:26:20:
({1 Town - 10 Maf}, {1 low variability - 10 high})

1. ALAKTORN (4, 5)
2. ßrendon (7, 9)
3. Darius (4, 4)
4. DBMK64 (4, 6)
5. Honko (4, 4)
6. J-Cop (5, 8)
7. kyleb30 (3, 7)
8. Lafungo (7, 7)
9. No control (6, 6)
10. ORANGE.exe (3, 10)
11. Racer727 (6, 7)
12. Sam F (7, 8)
14. Sportsguy001 (5, 3)
15. theyounggun (5, 7)
16. Timothy (4, 6)
17. Tom1 (5, 10)
18. TvK (7, 6)
19. Vinnie927 (6-7, 3)
20. Yoshistar (5, 6)
21. Zarkov (8, 6)

I've said I'm not interested in lynching Vinnie or Racer because they seem like to be too easy for Maf to target as well and bandwagon if they are Town. Right now I really don't like how Zarkov slid in behind Honko's Sam vote. Right now I'm feeling alright about a Zarkov or Lafungo lynch.


I think it was probably Darius, just my opinion.

Comment in the end is very interesting and makes Lafungos post about Zarkov hint even bigger BS.

Another interesting Shock post from little earlier:

Shock wrote on 05/29/16 at 10:30:28:
People who I think could be laying-low scum:

2. ßrandon  - unless I'm mistaken, has a grand total of 3 votes, all of them "joke" posts, which occurred at like page 6 or page 7.

7. kyleb30 - Was here early on but definitely hasn't contributed much yet.

8. Lafungo - Basically saw one easy opportunity to criticize Racer and took it. Anything else though?

12. Sam F - Joke post and back out the door.

21. Zarkov - Left a terrible vote in my view on the Gaff and people have interestingly been rather quiet about it. Why?


I feel like there could easily be a couple scum in this list. People who don't get talked about much and don't talk much themselves with less than 24 hours of Day to go rub me the wrong way.



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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1137 - 06/02/16 at 07:51:43
 
My 10th post is about people i see as town

Dan - was waiting to see who will go on Zarkov, he did, later also comes hard on kyle. Top poster - 100%

Yoshistar - on Zarkov wagon, switched to racer only when it was obvious Zarkov thing was not happening same as me. Voted Zarkov 1st thing d2. Under attacks by people i suspect being mafia - 100%

Sam - no posts but not voting D1 eod thing and under attack for 2 days - 99%

J-cop - His thought process is same as mine, i read some stuff in his posts that i wanted to say exactly. It worked 2 way i guess considering the post about Honko #1021 - town 95%

Timothy - low post count but he was on that Zarkov wagon D1, huge + and under attack from Kyle eod1 - 85%

fank - some great posts about sam/zarkov on D2 - 75%

I also have a good feeling about

Alaktorn, orange and Vinnie, but i have to go more into these guys together with people i didn't mention.
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1138 - 06/02/16 at 07:53:00
 
This is my last post in this series.

There are assumptions in my posts which are that Zarkov is mafia. I'm dead set on this.

I assume Kyle is mafia as well. Honko, Lafungo and Darius mentioned him as a suspect, this is where i get 1% of him being town.

I also assume and expect that mafia will spread some tough love for fellow mafia in order to disconnect from then if it goes bad.


I want to say that i completely agree with Dan on his zarkov/sam and kyle analysis. If i said otherwise it was strategy.

I want to see Zarkov lynched today. My mafia list is in order:

Zarkov
Kyle
Honko
Lafungo
Brandon

I know these posts are crazy, but i feel this was the best way to do this.

There is a lot of info now, over 1000 posts, go through history with this info in mind and search for suspects....happy hunting Smiley

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Reply #1139 - 06/02/16 at 07:53:03
 
Vote Count (as of reply #1138):




Zarkov (9): Yoshistar, no control, DBMK64, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Darius, theyounggun, Timothy, Honko, no control

Sam F (5): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927, ORANGE.exe, Lafungo, no control, Sportsguy001, no control

Yoshistar (1): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov, no control

Lafungo (1): Zarkov, Fank009

ALAKTORN (0): Sportsguy001

Vinnie927 (0): theyounggun

theyounggun (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe




With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority.

Day 1 will otherwise end on Thursday, June 2 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in 7 minutes.


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Reply #1140 - 06/02/16 at 07:54:06
 
Interesting thoughts nocontrol, I don't have anything hard written down but as I said before Kyle would be someone I'd be willing to straight up lynch as I got a similar impression from those posts. The Racer thing, if initiated by maf, was very clever as they'd know that "thinking" townies might jump on it. I had exactly the same thought process as TvK & Shock & Darius, the difference between Darius & I being that I had my prior vote on Zarkov whereas he didn't.

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Reply #1141 - 06/02/16 at 07:56:22
 
Apologies for not being about today. Been really busy at work. Looks like im a gonner anyway, so ggs.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1142 - 06/02/16 at 07:56:24
 
Saving all this info for 10 minutes before EOD when nobody has time to read it all and respond properly is not helpful. I understand wanting to set a trap for scum but you need to spring it sooner for it to be helpful.
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Reply #1143 - 06/02/16 at 07:56:49
 
Damn, my maf lean list is identical bar Honko who I don't have an opinion on.

One other thing maybe noteworthy from my personal point of view is that even though I've been a shitter D2 & barely posted, I haven't really been called out on it. The only one I think who's really mentioned me as on their scum radar is Kyle. Now because I've been quiet, I might seem like an obvious/easy target to put pressure on, & mafia know that, so they can easily throw my name into the hat to make it look like they're doing something proactive but no one bit & so they've been quiet.
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Reply #1144 - 06/02/16 at 07:57:31
 
Vote Count (as of reply #1143):




Zarkov (9): Yoshistar, no control, DBMK64, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Darius, theyounggun, Timothy, Honko, no control

Sam F (6): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927, ORANGE.exe, Lafungo, no control, Sportsguy001, no control, Zarkov

Lafungo (1): Zarkov, Fank009

Yoshistar (0): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov, no control

ALAKTORN (0): Sportsguy001

Vinnie927 (0): theyounggun

theyounggun (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe




With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority.

Day 1 will otherwise end on Thursday, June 2 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in 2.5 minutes.


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Reply #1145 - 06/02/16 at 07:58:28
 
I did it because i was waiting for my main Mafia suspects to say something. If i said this beginning of d2, especially that 1st post, then i would have nothing.

You not posting and lurking for last 20 mins didn't help
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Reply #1146 - 06/02/16 at 07:59:04
 
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1147 - 06/02/16 at 07:59:50
 
God speed Zarkov, I hope you're mafia.
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Reply #1148 - 06/02/16 at 08:00:00
 
NIGHT, STOP POSTING
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Reply #1149 - 06/02/16 at 08:01:53
 
Final Vote Count:




Zarkov (9): Yoshistar, no control, DBMK64, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Darius, theyounggun, Timothy, Honko, no control

Sam F (6): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927, ORANGE.exe, Lafungo, no control, Sportsguy001, no control, Zarkov

Lafungo (1): Zarkov, Fank009

Yoshistar (0): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov, no control

ALAKTORN (0): Sportsguy001

Vinnie927 (0): theyounggun

theyounggun (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe


YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES TO PM ME ANY CORRECTIONS.
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