I may as well vote now in case I'm not on tomorrow.

I think I'm convinced Zarkov is the best lynch now.

[Vote]   [/vote]

That works right?  Lol

Doesn't work

Robertvz wrote on 05/30/16 at 08:03:29:


Robertvz wrote on 06/01/16 at 14:01:04:



I prolly need to have a look at pre drill vote counts as well to properly examine the wagonomics happening here.

Since I'm going to sleep soon and won't be back online until around a couple hours before EoD, I'll make this post now.

I believe that Zarkov was Shock's N0 peek.

I understand that people are going to see this and clamor about Shock's push on Zarkov throughout D1, but I think that Shock's opening post is much more important.

Shock knew from the start that if/when he'd die and be revealed cop that town would go back and comb through his posts for hints on his scans. Despite appearing to be a joke post on D1, in retrospect his opening post could easily be construed as a hint because of his joke roleclaim. From there, it's a given that people would assume his Zarkov "peek" was in fact real and left as a clue. He even mentioned in his big role post early on that cop should leave behind "subtle" info for town to find. I think that Shock putting a fake N0 peek in his opening post doesn't make sense with this in mind, as he'd know it would confuse town.
Of course, this all happened before any action took place, and Shock couldn't predict how the day would go. I think that his Zarkov push was done in part to cover himself from mafia suspicion, because one of mafia's main goals is to figure out who the cop is, and his opening post would have been much more telling for mafia than for town. I also think that Shock pushing Zarkov was a way for him to prod Zarkov for his opinions in a "natural" way, since Zarkov would be the only person that Shock could trust D1.
Saying that Shock wouldn't go after Zarkov is also disingenuous, because Shock would know that Zarkov was vanilla and wasn't that important to town, particularly if he wasn't contributing "well". It was also much more important for him to cover himself as cop than protect a vanilla townie.

Based on this reasoning, I also think that Sam is extremely suspicious for having "figured out" that Shock was cop based almost exclusively on his opening post, as mafia would be far more likely to read more into Shock's opening post than town. Town had no reason to pay extra attention as to whether Shock was cop or not after his opening post, whereas it would have been very important for mafia to do so.

Mod note:

I am going to sleep, if majority is reached please stop talking even if I am not around to lock the topic. I will modkill people if I feel they are intentionally talking when realizing a lynch has been reached.

If you are the person who hammers the 10th vote on someone, please call it out publicly to avoid confusion for others. Thank you.

Lafungo,  - shocks flip, who in their right mind would believe zarkov is shocks n1?

Fank009 wrote on 06/01/16 at 20:25:01:


Fixed (another sote has n1, d1, n2 etc. :/)

Lafungo: if Zarkov was Shock's N0 read, I would be very surprised given the rest of his play. I'd encourage you to reread all of Shock's posts and see if you come away with the same conclusion.

Zarkov: can you give examples of how his play is different? What do you see scum intent in? Can you answer my question about Sam's play compared to the last game?

Darius wrote on 06/01/16 at 10:52:26:

I'm not sure I've ever seen a D1 lynch on a townie that didn't include any maf.  

Darius wrote on 06/01/16 at 13:23:43:

I agree that the votes switched from Zarkov to Racer look legitimate, but Kyle and Lafungo weren't on the Zarkov wagon to begin with.  They found something that could get attention off of Zarkov, and it wound up saving him on day 1.  That looks bad to me.

Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 17:22:19:

I don't agree that Yoshistar is scummier that the other two.  His posts are all over the place and his logic doesn't always make sense, but he played the same way last game and was town.  I don't want to gamble on him being maf when we have such a strong case on Sam and especially Clark.  I'd rather lynch someone who I'm more sure of.  And I wasn't trying to attack you, I was simply pointing out that it made you look like scum to me.

Can you identify anything suspicious about the way Kyle and Lafungo voted for Racer? Do you think Kyle and Lafungo are both mafia with Zarkov? How good a player do you think Lafungo is?

Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 17:22:19:


You started the game great and then you disappear, come almost last on d2 and start a thing on YS without even talking about events of late d1 and early d2. This is where i got really annoyed so the feeling is mutual.

I think you took a cheap shoot here:

no control wrote on 06/01/16 at 14:27:56:


Again with a few people, who are they? Be more specific.

As i see it, this is exactly what i said and shock followed saying something along the line that he feels like that. Shock is dead and i see this as an attack on me. Maybe i'm wrong, but this is exactly why i would like you to be more specific. Am i wrong?

I do feel a bit better about your posting now and i actually agree on what you said on YS.

We shouldn't just block one possible wagon.

As i see it now, today's lynch will be in Sam/Zarkov/Yoshistar trio.

[vote]Yoshistar[/vote]

Yoshistar has been under the radar this entire game except the usual TvK obsession. Considering the content of his posts and not being called out too much until Honko went for it makes him look scummier. I have expressed how i feel about Zarkov, but so have others. He has been taking a lot of heat and as i said in my last post of D1 i did have a town lean on him then.
On the other hand i haven't been much into Sam thing since a lot of people voiced their opinions there and i wanted to spread the search.

i think there is mafia between Sam and Zarkov and this is the biggest clue we got form d1, but YS is right behind one of them.

Fank009 wrote on 06/02/16 at 01:20:05: