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Mafia Low Power Game Day 5 (Read 17752 times)
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1025 - 06/01/16 at 15:33:44
 
I may as well vote now in case I'm not on tomorrow.

I think I'm convinced Zarkov is the best lynch now.

[Vote]  Smiley [/vote]

That works right?  Lol
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Reply #1026 - 06/01/16 at 15:34:26
 
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Reply #1027 - 06/01/16 at 15:42:06
 
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Reply #1028 - 06/01/16 at 15:45:42
 
Lame lol

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Reply #1029 - 06/01/16 at 16:05:02
 
Robertvz wrote on 05/30/16 at 08:03:29:
Final Vote Count:



Sam F (8): Honko, Vinnie927, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Lafungo, βΓαδθπ, DBMK64

Racer727 (8): Lafungo, kyleb30, no control, Darius, Shock, Lafungo, Timothy, TvK, no control, Yoshistar

Vinnie927 (1): theyounggun, Honko, TvK, Racer727, DBMK64, theyounggun, Yoshistar

ORANGE.exe (1): ALAKTORN, Timothy, no control, Yoshistar, Sam F

ALAKTORN (1): Sportsguy001

Yoshistar (1): no control, Darius, Racer727

Zarkov (0): Shock, TvK, ORANGE.exe, no control, Racer727, Timothy, Yoshistar

Darius (0): J-Cop

Honko (0): ORANGE.exe, Vinnie927

TvK (0): Shock

DBMK64 (0): Sportsguy001, theyounggun

theyounggun (0): DBMK64, kyleb30

Lafungo (0): Shock, Vinnie927, Racer727, Yoshistar, Sam F, βΓαδθπ

Fank009 (0): Lafungo, Zarkov

Shock (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe

YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES TO PM ME ANY CORRECTIONS



Robertvz wrote on 06/01/16 at 14:01:04:
Vote Count (as of reply #1010):




Zarkov (6): Yoshistar, no control, DBMK64, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Darius

Sam F (3): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927, ORANGE.exe

Yoshistar (3): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov

ALAKTORN (1):Sportsguy001

Lafungo (1): Zarkov, Fank009

Vinnie927 (1): theyounggun

theyounggun (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe




With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority.

Day 1 will otherwise end on Thursday, June 2 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in 18 hours.



I prolly need to have a look at pre drill vote counts as well to properly examine the wagonomics happening here.
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1030 - 06/01/16 at 17:22:19
 
The reaction of guys like J-Cop and Zoran to my case on Yoshistar worries me. I stated my case on the person who I felt was scummiest pretty early in the day (we were only about 10 hours in, and it was my first chance to post that day). Rather than comment on whether or not they agree that Yoshistar is scummy, they seem to be attacking me for daring to bring up a lynch other than Clark or Sam. If I were just bringing it up for the first time right now, sure, it would be a little late. But we were only 20% of the way into the day. I think I made it pretty clear that I agree Sam and Clark are both scummy, but I wanted to spark some discussion on Yoshistar because I think he's even worse. Why are you guys trying to shut that down, especially so early in the day?

Yoshistar™ wrote on 06/01/16 at 12:54:20:
Honko wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:15:20:
Yoshistar is the only other one I can think of who I'd be ok with lynching today.

Not sure how I missed this, but this is interesting.... explains a lot about others and puts this right there.

I had a general feeling that you were scum early on in the game, but didn't really have anything to explain it. Later on your posts became more actively bad, but TvK posted about it before I had a chance to, and I didn't see any value in restating his arguments.

Darius wrote on 06/01/16 at 13:51:51:
Clark's recent YS vote has got my alarm bells ringing.

Agreed. Very similar to when he followed me onto Sam late D1, which also looked scummy. I feel even worse about Clark now and would absolutely be down for lynching him today.

no control wrote on 06/01/16 at 14:27:56:
Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 08:29:22:
I agree with Darius that we're spending too much time hypothesizing about player connections when not even a single scum has flipped. It's not helpful. Look at the racer lynch; a few people mentioned when they jumped on that lynching racer would give us "more info" based on his connections with other players, but did we actually learn anything from that? The only info we got was that the people who jumped on it looked scummy.



Yes we did, or at least  i did and judging by post from some players they also did.  It looks to me that  you are trying to discredit my reasoning for voting racer.
Maybe if you are more involved you would see it. I have my words prepared for later in the day, timing is important on this one.

Your continued shots at my activity are getting annoying. I'm doing the best I can but I have a fairly full schedule. I was not at home when D1 was ending. I was at work when D2 started. I just got off work and am about to go out for the night and will be back an hour or so before EOD. So yeah, I'm not always around. But when I am, I'm involved and posting my actual thoughts about who I think is scummy, regardless of whether they are currently a popular topic of conversation or not. That makes me more active than most of the players in this game who are either lurking or sheeping. So please cut this "if you were more involved" shit out.

I'm going to unvote for now since I will be away until near EOD. I think Yoshistar and Clark are the best lynches.

[vote]unvote[/vote]
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Reply #1031 - 06/01/16 at 19:17:02
 
Since I'm going to sleep soon and won't be back online until around a couple hours before EoD, I'll make this post now.

I believe that Zarkov was Shock's N0 peek.

I understand that people are going to see this and clamor about Shock's push on Zarkov throughout D1, but I think that Shock's opening post is much more important.

Shock knew from the start that if/when he'd die and be revealed cop that town would go back and comb through his posts for hints on his scans. Despite appearing to be a joke post on D1, in retrospect his opening post could easily be construed as a hint because of his joke roleclaim. From there, it's a given that people would assume his Zarkov "peek" was in fact real and left as a clue. He even mentioned in his big role post early on that cop should leave behind "subtle" info for town to find. I think that Shock putting a fake N0 peek in his opening post doesn't make sense with this in mind, as he'd know it would confuse town.
Of course, this all happened before any action took place, and Shock couldn't predict how the day would go. I think that his Zarkov push was done in part to cover himself from mafia suspicion, because one of mafia's main goals is to figure out who the cop is, and his opening post would have been much more telling for mafia than for town. I also think that Shock pushing Zarkov was a way for him to prod Zarkov for his opinions in a "natural" way, since Zarkov would be the only person that Shock could trust D1.
Saying that Shock wouldn't go after Zarkov is also disingenuous, because Shock would know that Zarkov was vanilla and wasn't that important to town, particularly if he wasn't contributing "well". It was also much more important for him to cover himself as cop than protect a vanilla townie.

Based on this reasoning, I also think that Sam is extremely suspicious for having "figured out" that Shock was cop based almost exclusively on his opening post, as mafia would be far more likely to read more into Shock's opening post than town. Town had no reason to pay extra attention as to whether Shock was cop or not after his opening post, whereas it would have been very important for mafia to do so.
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1032 - 06/01/16 at 19:59:27
 
Vote Count (as of reply #1031):




Zarkov (6): Yoshistar, no control, DBMK64, ORANGE.exe, J-Cop, Darius, theyounggun

Sam F (3): Darius, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, kyleb30, Vinnie927, ORANGE.exe

Yoshistar (3): Honko, Lafungo, Zarkov

ALAKTORN (1):Sportsguy001

Lafungo (1): Zarkov, Fank009

Vinnie927 (0): theyounggun

theyounggun (0): Darius

βΓαδθπ (0): ORANGE.exe




With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority.

Day 1 will otherwise end on Thursday, June 2 at 12:00 PM EDT, or in 12 hours.
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Reply #1033 - 06/01/16 at 20:05:46
 
Mod note:

I am going to sleep, if majority is reached please stop talking even if I am not around to lock the topic. I will modkill people if I feel they are intentionally talking when realizing a lynch has been reached.

If you are the person who hammers the 10th vote on someone, please call it out publicly to avoid confusion for others. Thank you.
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1034 - 06/01/16 at 20:18:09
 
Lafungo wrote on 06/01/16 at 19:17:02:
Since I'm going to sleep soon and won't be back online until around a couple hours before EoD, I'll make this post now.

I believe that Zarkov was Shock's N0 peek.

I understand that people are going to see this and clamor about Shock's push on Zarkov throughout D1, but I think that Shock's opening post is much more important.

Shock knew from the start that if/when he'd die and be revealed cop that town would go back and comb through his posts for hints on his scans. Despite appearing to be a joke post on D1, in retrospect his opening post could easily be construed as a hint because of his joke roleclaim. From there, it's a given that people would assume his Zarkov "peek" was in fact real and left as a clue. He even mentioned in his big role post early on that cop should leave behind "subtle" info for town to find. I think that Shock putting a fake N0 peek in his opening post doesn't make sense with this in mind, as he'd know it would confuse town.
Of course, this all happened before any action took place, and Shock couldn't predict how the day would go. I think that his Zarkov push was done in part to cover himself from mafia suspicion, because one of mafia's main goals is to figure out who the cop is, and his opening post would have been much more telling for mafia than for town. I also think that Shock pushing Zarkov was a way for him to prod Zarkov for his opinions in a "natural" way, since Zarkov would be the only person that Shock could trust D1.
Saying that Shock wouldn't go after Zarkov is also disingenuous, because Shock would know that Zarkov was vanilla and wasn't that important to town, particularly if he wasn't contributing "well". It was also much more important for him to cover himself as cop than protect a vanilla townie.

Based on this reasoning, I also think that Sam is extremely suspicious for having "figured out" that Shock was cop based almost exclusively on his opening post, as mafia would be far more likely to read more into Shock's opening post than town. Town had no reason to pay extra attention as to whether Shock was cop or not after his opening post, whereas it would have been very important for mafia to do so.


That's quite a theory.  Zarkov looks bad, but sam f looks just as bad.  I said earlier that i would pick sam f over zarkov.  I'm still leaning that way.  However it looks as if zarkov is as good as dead.
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Reply #1035 - 06/01/16 at 20:25:01
 
Lafungo,  - shocks flip, who in their right mind would believe zarkov is shocks n1?
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Simple answer. The single most important thing essential to survival is kart.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/18/15 at 16:45:10:
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 1
Reply #1036 - 06/01/16 at 20:36:02
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:52:07:
Shock wrote on 05/30/16 at 06:48:11:
Racer727 wrote on 05/29/16 at 14:05:29:
What do you mean "in my forum"?


By the way, this could be a townslip from Racer; of course, it might also be coached.


I take this with a grain of salt, because he could just be trying to act oblivious in order to get this exact reaction.


Kyle, are you still in maf mindset?
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Simple answer. The single most important thing essential to survival is kart.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/18/15 at 16:45:10:
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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1037 - 06/01/16 at 20:44:39
 
Fank009 wrote on 06/01/16 at 20:25:01:
Lafungo,  - shocks flip, who in their right mind would believe zarkov is shocks n0?


Fixed (another sote has n1, d1, n2 etc. :/)
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Simple answer. The single most important thing essential to survival is kart.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/18/15 at 16:45:10:
If the wheel wasn't invented... we wouldn't have kart.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
Reply #1038 - 06/01/16 at 22:26:30
 
Darius wrote on 06/01/16 at 13:51:51:
Loads of text


Youre also leaving out the parts where ive said YS was on my maf radar. It hasnt just sprung out of nowehere. Ive also said that he was either erratic town, or maf. His posts recently where he is just pretty much making stuff up (as opposed to just being random) convinced me he is just as likely to be maf as Sam.
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Reply #1039 - 06/01/16 at 22:48:37
 
Lafungo: if Zarkov was Shock's N0 read, I would be very surprised given the rest of his play. I'd encourage you to reread all of Shock's posts and see if you come away with the same conclusion.

Zarkov: can you give examples of how his play is different? What do you see scum intent in? Can you answer my question about Sam's play compared to the last game?
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Reply #1040 - 06/01/16 at 22:58:12
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 06/01/16 at 14:09:41:
Hi, I’m back.

Darius wrote on 06/01/16 at 07:56:02:
Also, Alaktorn, can you elaborate on this:

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/31/16 at 12:08:01:
I think Darius has an ulterior motive for voting Sam with which I agree, so: [vote]Sam F[/vote]

Was I wrong? I basically meant what came out after you pressured him.


What do you think 'came out'? What did you find scummy about it?
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Reply #1041 - 06/01/16 at 23:01:03
 
Darius wrote on 06/01/16 at 10:52:26:
I'm actually coming round to the idea that the late Racer wagon was all town. Scum would have known that he was town and would likely have been avoiding the risk of a late switch. It's even more likely if Sam is mafia.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a D1 lynch on a townie that didn't include any maf.  

Darius wrote on 06/01/16 at 13:23:43:
My guess is that mafia would shy away from such a frantic late wagon in just 20 minutes at the end of the day. I don't think they would want the extra attention and it was so close to the end of the day that they could legitimately avoid getting involved. It was so fast that I also buy everyone's vote switch as legitimate here; I think scum trying to co-ordinate wouldn't have had time to react to it and would have felt safer staying put, but genuine townies reacting to Racer's apparent scumslip would definitely want to vote for him.

I agree that the votes switched from Zarkov to Racer look legitimate, but Kyle and Lafungo weren't on the Zarkov wagon to begin with.  They found something that could get attention off of Zarkov, and it wound up saving him on day 1.  That looks bad to me.

Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 17:22:19:
The reaction of guys like J-Cop and Zoran to my case on Yoshistar worries me. I stated my case on the person who I felt was scummiest pretty early in the day (we were only about 10 hours in, and it was my first chance to post that day). Rather than comment on whether or not they agree that Yoshistar is scummy, they seem to be attacking me for daring to bring up a lynch other than Clark or Sam. If I were just bringing it up for the first time right now, sure, it would be a little late. But we were only 20% of the way into the day. I think I made it pretty clear that I agree Sam and Clark are both scummy, but I wanted to spark some discussion on Yoshistar because I think he's even worse. Why are you guys trying to shut that down, especially so early in the day?

I don't agree that Yoshistar is scummier that the other two.  His posts are all over the place and his logic doesn't always make sense, but he played the same way last game and was town.  I don't want to gamble on him being maf when we have such a strong case on Sam and especially Clark.  I'd rather lynch someone who I'm more sure of.  And I wasn't trying to attack you, I was simply pointing out that it made you look like scum to me.
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Reply #1042 - 06/01/16 at 23:05:45
 
Lafungo wrote on 06/01/16 at 19:17:02:
Since I'm going to sleep soon and won't be back online until around a couple hours before EoD, I'll make this post now.

I believe that Zarkov was Shock's N0 peek.

I understand that people are going to see this and clamor about Shock's push on Zarkov throughout D1, but I think that Shock's opening post is much more important.

Shock knew from the start that if/when he'd die and be revealed cop that town would go back and comb through his posts for hints on his scans. Despite appearing to be a joke post on D1, in retrospect his opening post could easily be construed as a hint because of his joke roleclaim. From there, it's a given that people would assume his Zarkov "peek" was in fact real and left as a clue. He even mentioned in his big role post early on that cop should leave behind "subtle" info for town to find. I think that Shock putting a fake N0 peek in his opening post doesn't make sense with this in mind, as he'd know it would confuse town.
Of course, this all happened before any action took place, and Shock couldn't predict how the day would go. I think that his Zarkov push was done in part to cover himself from mafia suspicion, because one of mafia's main goals is to figure out who the cop is, and his opening post would have been much more telling for mafia than for town. I also think that Shock pushing Zarkov was a way for him to prod Zarkov for his opinions in a "natural" way, since Zarkov would be the only person that Shock could trust D1.
Saying that Shock wouldn't go after Zarkov is also disingenuous, because Shock would know that Zarkov was vanilla and wasn't that important to town, particularly if he wasn't contributing "well". It was also much more important for him to cover himself as cop than protect a vanilla townie.


More Lafungo defending Zarkov.  This looks extremely bad if Zarkov flips maf.
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Reply #1043 - 06/01/16 at 23:17:08
 
Can you identify anything suspicious about the way Kyle and Lafungo voted for Racer? Do you think Kyle and Lafungo are both mafia with Zarkov? How good a player do you think Lafungo is?
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Reply #1044 - 06/01/16 at 23:26:01
 
Fank: can you elaborate on why Sam/Racer feels town/town to you?
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Reply #1045 - 06/01/16 at 23:33:01
 
Honko wrote on 06/01/16 at 17:22:19:
Your continued shots at my activity are getting annoying. I'm doing the best I can but I have a fairly full schedule. I was not at home when D1 was ending. I was at work when D2 started. I just got off work and am about to go out for the night and will be back an hour or so before EOD. So yeah, I'm not always around. But when I am, I'm involved and posting my actual thoughts about who I think is scummy, regardless of whether they are currently a popular topic of conversation or not. That makes me more active than most of the players in this game who are either lurking or sheeping. So please cut this "if you were more involved" shit out.

I'm going to unvote for now since I will be away until near EOD. I think Yoshistar and Clark are the best lynches.

[vote]unvote[/vote]


You started the game great and then you disappear, come almost last on d2 and start a thing on YS without even talking about events of late d1 and early d2. This is where i got really annoyed so the feeling is mutual.

I think you took a cheap shoot here:

no control wrote on 06/01/16 at 14:27:56:
a few people mentioned when they jumped on that lynching racer would give us "more info" based on his connections with other players, but did we actually learn anything from that? The only info we got was that the people who jumped on it looked scummy.



Again with a few people, who are they? Be more specific.

As i see it, this is exactly what i said and shock followed saying something along the line that he feels like that. Shock is dead and i see this as an attack on me. Maybe i'm wrong, but this is exactly why i would like you to be more specific. Am i wrong?

I do feel a bit better about your posting now and i actually agree on what you said on YS.

We shouldn't just block one possible wagon.

As i see it now, today's lynch will be in Sam/Zarkov/Yoshistar trio.

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Reply #1046 - 06/01/16 at 23:59:24
 
Zoran: do you think YS is more scummy than Zarkov or Sam? I'm finding his posts spectacularly unhelpful but the more I read them, the less I get a sense of any kind of scum motivation.
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Reply #1047 - 06/02/16 at 00:34:51
 
Yoshistar has been under the radar this entire game except the usual TvK obsession. Considering the content of his posts and not being called out too much until Honko went for it makes him look scummier. I have expressed how i feel about Zarkov, but so have others. He has been taking a lot of heat and as i said in my last post of D1 i did have a town lean on him then.
On the other hand i haven't been much into Sam thing since a lot of people voiced their opinions there and i wanted to spread the search.

i think there is mafia between Sam and Zarkov and this is the biggest clue we got form d1, but YS is right behind one of them.
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Reply #1048 - 06/02/16 at 01:20:05
 
[quote author=4647774B47465C5A4744280 link=1464210503/1025#1047 date=1464856491
i think there is mafia between Sam and Zarkov and this is the biggest clue we got form d1, but YS is right behind one of them. [/quote]

If there is scum in sam/zarkov, its zarkov. Otherwise they would have jumped off of sam. The slip of rider is too good not to jump on. -being away from the thread
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BPA> fanks brain is like drew's in reverse
BPA> actual ideas expressed randomly. drew's is whack ideas expressed eloquently

LewisRichards wrote on 11/10/14 at 18:16:44:
Simple answer. The single most important thing essential to survival is kart.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/18/15 at 16:45:10:
If the wheel wasn't invented... we wouldn't have kart.

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Re: Mafia Low Power Game Day 2
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Fank009 wrote on 06/02/16 at 01:20:05:
no control wrote on 06/02/16 at 00:34:51:
i think there is mafia between Sam and Zarkov and this is the biggest clue we got form d1, but YS is right behind one of them.


If there is scum in sam/zarkov, its zarkov. Otherwise they would have jumped off of sam. The slip of rider is too good not to jump on. -being away from the thread

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BPA> fanks brain is like drew's in reverse
BPA> actual ideas expressed randomly. drew's is whack ideas expressed eloquently

LewisRichards wrote on 11/10/14 at 18:16:44:
Simple answer. The single most important thing essential to survival is kart.

LewisRichards wrote on 08/18/15 at 16:45:10:
If the wheel wasn't invented... we wouldn't have kart.

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