Also, Yoshistar, this does not mean by any means that I don't think you're still scum. I'm just going to leave you be for today because we pretty much caught someone else. Do you by the way still believe I am mafia?

Also, you can’t help but be suspicious of experienced players regardless.

I still have a big feeling Fank is mafia, btw. Anyone else?

Should we discuss how the Medium should act, or are we leaving that to Brett? They can converse now, correct? Granted, we’re not sure a Medium is even in play, but it’s at least likely… I hope we have one.

Okay so I'm going to go back and read the later votes on J-Cop now and see if anyone's votes looked scummy jumping onto the wagon at the end. For now though, I'm going to

[vote]Sam F[/vote]

as it should hopefully get him out and posting to defend himself.

By the way, No Control, what's your current stance on Sam F?

&b wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:36:36:


lol thanks. Its not like you have overwhelming heat on you or anything.

Ok, so this is what happened last night:

I made sure to watch over Tyler (Sportsguy) and the mafia framed me. The result was "Eoj visited your target!"

I thought for sure that I'd be killed, but they went with a frame job instead.

Looking back at some of the final J-Cop votes, there's somewhat of a minefield of scumminess to dig through.

[quote author=7A4C504B4A50574251121A1A16230 link=1462902805/775#796 date=1463408064]TvK wrote on 05/16/16 at 05:43:42:

Yoshistar's vote is not great here, he basically says he's only voting J-Cop because he wants to live even if it makes him look scummy. This goes into the collection of not so great posts Yoshistar made at the EOD and throughout the day especially his final "giving up" post (#908)

LewisRichards wrote on 05/16/16 at 04:53:42:

TYG's vote seems more guided by Brett and the rest of the town more than anything else, saying "I could switch if you guys want me to" seems like he's trying to build favor while making sure he doesn't take any credit for pushing the wagon on who he might know is a town member.

Also Zoran's vote (#926, too huge to quote didn't want to clog up the post) comes off to me as really noncommittal. He lists four people who he thinks are mafia if J-Cop flips town, including Brett and ALAKTORN and tries to take the blame off himself with his final vote which doesn't look great.

Out of those three I'd rank it TYG, Yoshistar, Zoran in order of most to least scummy. I'm going to keep digging around and post more thoughts if I find them.

Sam F is still overwhelmingly my main lynch target for now but I thought I'd look for some other clues while he apparently posts he's leaving for no reason.

no control wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:16:25:


Brett was my biggest town lean early, but the end of the whole J-cop situation left a bad taste in my mouth at the end of D1. It seemed like Brett was trying to drive J-cop out, and wound up being wrong. Was gonna ask him about it today, but now he's dead. Still was leaning town, but much more towards the center

And what was your reasoning behind visiting Sportsguy?

Zarkov wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:52:39:


Yes, my thoughts exactly. Did he just accidentily out himself as scum?

zarkov, what did your PM say last night? "XYZ visited your target!" according to your earlier post, XYZ would be "sam, no control, and web" correct? not you at all?

TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:54:07:


It certainly appears to me like this is a slip. I cant see a way he wouldve said this unless he was making it up and hadnt read the role description very well. Its just not a scenario which would turn up, at least how ive interpreted it (the role of framer that is).

I just cant put this down to misquoting his PM, or not understanding correctly. It looks completely made up to me.