Also, you may PM me your timezone if you want me to add it next to your name in the 2nd post, but it isn't mandatory or anything.

no control wrote on 05/15/16 at 03:15:06:


It's a double edged sword saying what I said. As it stands there's still 8 people with under 5 posts. I want people to post more, whether that be as town or scum. Trust me when I say it takes a LOT of experience to be able to post a large volume of posts comfortable as scum, you need 100% confidence in your own abilities to be able to pull it off. With so many people not posting a lot, it gives scum an easier chance to hide in the lesser posters, not to mention it's easier to read someone who has posted 20 times as opposed to someone who has only posted twice. I want as much relevant discussion as possible, bring scum outside their comfort zone and generate more discussion for the town to work with.


LewisRichards wrote on 05/15/16 at 05:24:04:


Sportsguy literally plays like this every single game, personally I think he's probably town this game but it's mostly just from vibes I'm getting from his posts. I've read sportsguy right in times past and I don't think I've ever had him even as a probably town read as scum, so take it for what it's worth. Reading into sportsguy isn't easy for most people.

☆ᓂ wrote on 05/14/16 at 20:01:21:


This last bit Zac said comes from townies 95% of the time, this is what's known as a townslip. It's when a town inadvertently says something that scum really wouldn't say. A good scum can fake it, but Zac's not experienced enough to fake something like "but then the mafia will know who the townies are." Trust me on this, Zac's almost certainly town.

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/14/16 at 19:31:49:


This bolded part, while wrong in philosophy, also almost never comes from scum. ALAKTORN also pretty likely town (90% or better chance).

People who I wouldn't lynch (in no particular order):

Vinnie
Zoran
Dan
TvK
Locky
Web
Zac
ALAKTORN
Sportsguy

Fank and TYG also probably shouldn't be lynched today, I don't particularly townread either of them yet (Fank especially could pull this game off as scum), but he's much more valuable as a townie and I don't think it's worth lynching him as a high risk high reward play. If TYG is scum he'll make himself pretty obvious with his volume of posting and lack of experience.

I'd probably focus mainly on J-Cop, Lafungo, and Timothy. J-Cop in particular has posts that are just going along with the flow of the game and I expect better from him, quite frankly. Other two just need to post more.

[vote]J-Cop[/vote]

Im thinking Vinnie and Eoj are scum. Vinnie just seems sketchy with his vote switches, and generally scatterbrainness. Il hold off voting for him though as it could just be inexperience.

And Joe saying everything is a crap shoot, and keeping everything vanilla. Doesnt say anything of value and hasnt posted since. His earlier posts made me think that aswell. Vague and stuff.

Imma chuck my vote on Joe as he is doing the obvious posting to make it look like substance, but without any. Trying to blend in and such.

[vote]Eoj[/vote]

Locky wrote on 05/15/16 at 04:49:55:

Just woke up, re-reading now. So far (as of this post I'm quoting),my biggest maf lean is TYG (for his  ridiculous entry post). I also think it's likely that one of the members that seems absolutely clueless but hasn't posted much (Zac, Racer, maybe even Vinnie) is mafia. A bunch of people were giving the angle that they would have been shut up but mafia have yet to communicate so that accusation is worthless.

I'll post more thoughts as soon as I finish rereading.

Zarkov's open apathy towards the game is also probably town but it's much weaker than the list I posted. However I probably wouldn't lynch him for the time being either.

also he's still set on No Lynch, which has been stressed by many members to be a worthless play with this setup.
[vote]Yoshistar[/vote]
Who are your current maf leans?

Brett, why do you think we shouldn't lynch Vinnie?

Hear me out on this:
Brett, earlier in the day you were influencing Vinnie and TYG to change their play.  Most people seem to think that they are mafia reads, and I'd agree (although based on them going after each other at points, I don't know how likely it is that they're both mafia).  I think at this point in the day Vinnie might be trying on purpose to lose credibility by posting a lot and trying to fit into what you say about being more likely to be town the more you post, but his posts haven't had much in the way of substance and he's been switching his votes a lot, which to me makes it seem like he's just trying to throw off the scent and play dumb.  While you might feel that a lot of posting generally helps the town, I think that Vinnie's posts really haven't been (not trying to be mean Vinnie, I think this might be him doing it on purpose as a member of the mafia anyway).  Also Brett if we lynch Vinnie and he is town, then it makes you look less suspicious also since you have been saying we shouldn't lynch him and he's been the most obvious target I think.

TvK wrote on 05/15/16 at 06:38:58:

already ahead of you . Also to amend my post a bit Yoshistar, I realize you were suspicious of Vinnie in a few posts but I'd like to see who else you think has looked scummy.

I think Brett, Locky, Web, TvK and Dan are town. Vinnie is still my biggest lean. For the others I'm not so sure about yet.
Vinnie is my biggest lean for his constant vote changes and changing mind, like what he's voted 5 different people now? And if voting me was "wrong" then why did you do it in the first place? Still not going to vote yet as something else could be set in motion, but I'll decide on that later.

I'd seriously much prefer a Yoshistar lynch, he's someone I've had meh vibes from so far. J-Cop Tim and Lafungo are also not playing very well either but I tend to doubt they're all scum just based on probability.

Vinnie's intentionally staying in the limelight this game. Scum don't like to be in the limelight if they don't have to be. Vinnie put himself in the limelight, that's naturally pro town behavior and I know I'm not clear to you all but he'd have to be pretty ballsy from my point of view to do this with me in the game.

Brett, I don't necessarily think that you're not mafia if Vinnie were to turn up as town.  However I think that if he turns up mafia, it does make you look more suspicious, so if we are of the impression that you are one of the best mafia players involved in the game, it makes sense for us to try to figure out whether you are mafia or not very quickly while still not lynching you.