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Reply #1875 - 05/20/16 at 20:25:04
 
My overall thoughts on the game:

In hindsight, roles definitely in favor of Town. Also, roles were RNG'd probably in favor of easily confirmable roles. If there's a future game like this, Town roles need to be debuffed a bit, and there needs to be more "dual" roles - roles that have Town/Maf counterparts - like Escort/Consort this game. I also think many strong players landed on Town's side this game.

Other major events of note this game:

- 900+ posts D1. That is a lot of posting and a lot of information being generated. Strong playing by Town here.

- Walter only made 2 posts. Not helpful for Maf, though he did die the next night.

- Brett made a solid prediction in his protection, and he took down a Maf as well as kept a D2 of discussion about him away.

- Townslipping was real this game, and so was metagaming. In the future, things could've been smoother, but people were becoming basically confirmed Town when I felt they shouldn't be, and I didn't like the whole copy/pasting of PMs, either. Read the rules and stick to them, please!

- Web's scumslip. Legendary. That's all.

- TYG slipped pretty hard in dead chat, though a definite +1 to Brett for thinking up a devious plan like he did.

- TYG wasn't coaxed into making some kind of Townslip, and I think people were probably expecting him to act really clueless if he were Town. But he posted a lot - so credits to him for that - but he did mess up here and there, which probably convinced Lafungo to make that shot.

- Misuse of Maf Night actions. I don't think Consorts should be going after TvK's, to say the least. They should be going after suspected Townies. You already know you're blocking a Town action, so cool, you can probably convince others that you're an Escort if you're questioned in that case, and you can keep the attention diverted onto players who can't clear themselves and already look sus.

- I thought it was really strange that YS decided to heal himself N1. I wonder why he thought he'd get targeted, and if he died how terrible a thing that would be exactly given all the attention he had D1? If anything, he was setting himself up for getting shot by a Vig N2 with no protection. He could've at least saved it for N2.

Overall: things were a bit Town sided mechanics-wise, but Maf really dug their own graves quickly, and Townies got a fair share of luck on top of it.



My Most Valuable Townies: TvK, Brett, no control/Zoran

My Most Valuable Mafia: DBMK64 (Dan)
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Reply #1876 - 05/20/16 at 20:27:27
 
I think I also got nearly 200 PMs this game, and I read pretty much all the posts in this game.

I am a tired host. lol


I hope you all had fun! Direct any complaints to the Mafia please.  Smiley
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Reply #1877 - 05/20/16 at 20:30:48
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/20/16 at 20:10:02:
Shit man, I knew Vinnie was medium. Check the mafia chat. We put zarkov above Vinnie, but I was thinking about switching it bc I knew we Needed to kill the medium to survive


I knew something was up with vinnie when he basically called 3 of us in one post.  I put him 2nd onmy list after clark last night, but i told tyg he was the godfather and it was his decision.


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Reply #1878 - 05/20/16 at 20:35:18
 
Next game mafia needs to be able to choose who they want to execute a kill and a strongman kill would be nice.
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Reply #1879 - 05/20/16 at 20:39:51
 
Yeah sports guy, I thought Vinnie made it faulty obvious. His posting style changed drastically, and he seemed super obvious. Oh well, maybe he was a better kill than zark N2.

Also, maybe zark was a better kil N1, curious to see thoughts there.

One last thing, thank you shock for hosting!
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Reply #1880 - 05/20/16 at 20:44:10
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/20/16 at 20:39:51:
Yeah sports guy, I thought Vinnie made it faulty obvious. His posting style changed drastically, and he seemed super obvious. Oh well, maybe he was a better kill than zark N2.

Also, maybe zark was a better kil N1, curious to see thoughts there.

One last thing, thank you shock for hosting!


zarkov was definitely the better kill n1, but i thought there was 99% chance it would be healed or protected after being confirmed town because he didn't read the rules.  If we pick zarkov we would have been in much better shape.  
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Reply #1881 - 05/20/16 at 20:47:13
 
It looks like tvk did protect zarkov night 1, but mafia roleblocked him.
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Reply #1882 - 05/20/16 at 20:47:45
 
Gg... Stupid mistake by me ...... Will try my best next time to stick better to the rules....
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Reply #1883 - 05/20/16 at 20:48:24
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/20/16 at 20:44:10:
kyleb30 wrote on 05/20/16 at 20:39:51:
Yeah sports guy, I thought Vinnie made it faulty obvious. His posting style changed drastically, and he seemed super obvious. Oh well, maybe he was a better kill than zark N2.

Also, maybe zark was a better kil N1, curious to see thoughts there.

One last thing, thank you shock for hosting!


zarkov was definitely the better kill n1, but i thought there was 99% chance it would be healed or protected after being confirmed town because he didn't read the rules.  If we pick zarkov we would have been in much better shape.  


I thought the same thing, thought me/TvK/Zarkov/Joe were likely protection targets and Lafungo was kinda the best of what's left. He also had no heat day 1 and was on the Yoshistar wagon which at the time looked better than the people on Jon's wagon which is why I thought he was a fairly obvious kill choice. I sent that protection PM within 5 minutes of nightfall.
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Reply #1884 - 05/20/16 at 20:49:01
 
A few thoughts:

Lol YS, healing himself N1. No one was killing you, so dumb

The amount of role claiming was pretty lame. Imo town won sooner because of it. Like, they could all just claim and then process of elimination kill those who shouldn't be a certain role (if that makes sense)

Omg, web and tyg. What the fuck man
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"Ah, the antelope of death. It's because I cheated in Super Mario 64. This will need to be addressed soon."


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And provably lacey is hoardibg his dkjp 3 lap for you too  Smiley


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Reply #1885 - 05/20/16 at 20:51:40
 
@brett if you read maf chat, we were aiming for zark and roleblcok eoJ night one. If it worked, we would have killed the only confirmed town and set up a d2 mislynch. We thought it was too obvious, so we went for the "safer" play. Wound up being our downfall.
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ShadowOfMyles wrote on 02/14/15 at 07:54:58:
"Ah, the antelope of death. It's because I cheated in Super Mario 64. This will need to be addressed soon."


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And provably lacey is hoardibg his dkjp 3 lap for you too  Smiley


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Reply #1886 - 05/20/16 at 20:53:13
 
^ Well, that's why I included the Random Town roles, and even then others were just semi-random. Roleclaiming was something I thought the Mafia would take seriously and talk about in-depth the first Night together. If the Mafia have a plan, I think a mass roleclaim does not work well for Town.
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Reply #1887 - 05/20/16 at 20:53:23
 
I was getting ready to claim sheriff, but Joe semi implicated fank so i was all in on that.  Unfortunately it didn't work and our 2% chance of winning went to zero.
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Reply #1888 - 05/20/16 at 20:56:08
 
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It would have been suspicous anyway since i was the sheriff xD
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Reply #1889 - 05/20/16 at 20:57:05
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 05/20/16 at 20:56:08:
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It would have been suspicous anyway since i was the sheriff xD


You obviously didn't read the rules either.  
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Reply #1890 - 05/20/16 at 20:57:10
 
I was between sheriff and doc, felt sheriff would be easier to keep up with since we know town and maf.

As for mass role claim, I'm not sure we would be able to determine the roles to claim and whatnot. Idk, it was a tough game for maf so idk what to do.

Also, I felt we were behind by our own personal lives. Jake a SG had birthdays, I had a graduation, Dan had a huge career meeting, tyg is lame and in school, web had to town consort irl. You know, tough stuff to get around.
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"Ah, the antelope of death. It's because I cheated in Super Mario 64. This will need to be addressed soon."


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And provably lacey is hoardibg his dkjp 3 lap for you too  Smiley


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Reply #1891 - 05/20/16 at 20:58:03
 
☆ᓂ wrote on 05/20/16 at 20:56:08:
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It would have been suspicous anyway since i was the sheriff xD


This was part of the problem. Too many people that had no fucking idea what the fuck was going on.
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ShadowOfMyles wrote on 02/14/15 at 07:54:58:
"Ah, the antelope of death. It's because I cheated in Super Mario 64. This will need to be addressed soon."


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And provably lacey is hoardibg his dkjp 3 lap for you too  Smiley


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first of all, who's walter XP
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Reply #1892 - 05/20/16 at 20:58:16
 
I haven't read the last 4 or 5 pages of the game and probably won't.  I'm over the fact that you lot killed me day 1, I honestly agree that I deserved it.  Sign me up right now for the next maf game and I promise I'll do better.  Anyone who has played with me before knows that I am better than this lol

Brett and I enjoyed the dead chat, and I'm sure Vinnie did as well.  Fank came across scummy and Dan came across town, but we had everyone else figured out.  It's a lot easier bouncing ideas back and forth when you know for certain that the person you're talking to is town.

TYG, if you read this, you shouldn't take Brett's plan personally.  It had nothing to do with you specifically, you just happened to be the first maf to join the dead chat after he had the idea.  He would have done the same thing to anyone else.

Kudos to Shock for hosting a game and running things so smoothly.  I'm sure it's annoying when damn near everybody forgets the rules, but you handled it well Smiley
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Reply #1893 - 05/20/16 at 20:58:44
 
There is a hilarious meme on the dead chat about web's roleclaim.
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Reply #1895 - 05/20/16 at 21:04:19
 
I actually thought we were fine (maybe even in a better spot) when Brett and Walter died N1. The TvK roleclaims is where i started to worry, and then the web maf slip is where I gave up. Tyg stuff was icing on the cake, I knew we were dead after web slipped tho
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ShadowOfMyles wrote on 02/14/15 at 07:54:58:
"Ah, the antelope of death. It's because I cheated in Super Mario 64. This will need to be addressed soon."


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And provably lacey is hoardibg his dkjp 3 lap for you too  Smiley


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Reply #1896 - 05/20/16 at 21:05:56
 
Wait did tyg delete his posts on dead chat? That's kinda lame...
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ShadowOfMyles wrote on 02/14/15 at 07:54:58:
"Ah, the antelope of death. It's because I cheated in Super Mario 64. This will need to be addressed soon."


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Reply #1897 - 05/20/16 at 21:07:31
 
More evidence that he was pissed which basically just further cleared Tim...
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Reply #1898 - 05/20/16 at 21:08:24
 
Btw I didn't mention it but Zac's modkill gave me auto win.

If at any point there's more clears than there are unclears, the game is over. Before Zac was modkilled (16 alive) I had 8 clears:

Timothy
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Joe
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I needed one more to have auto. Zac's modkill ironically gave me that as he managed to kill himself as an unclear while the day phase remained.
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Reply #1899 - 05/20/16 at 21:10:50
 
And yeah, that modkill. I didn't think carefully that it would actually HELP Town, so I will take the blame on that one and apologize. I was following my rules and at that point admittedly my patience with people's understanding about the rules was wearing thin, so I set a punishment that probably should've been adjusted given the context.
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