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Re: Mafia: Day 3 - Got 'em!
Reply #1825 - 05/20/16 at 15:39:24
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:35:56:
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Just want to say that kyle, sportsguy and dbmk64 jumped on fank pretty fast.


It looked obvious he was mafia.  AND he didn't exactly explain himself very well.  

I feel like the fank-english dictionary needs to come back out.

Whats the difference between my points and say TVK's points?
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Reply #1826 - 05/20/16 at 15:40:46
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:36:49:
TvK wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:27:34:
1. Maf have a roleblocker
2. Eoj has announced he will watch Zarkov
3. Maf don't roleblock Eoj but still kill Zarkov

Doesn't add up, right?

So mafia just hoped someone would visit Zarkov from town so they could be framed as the killer?

Wait a second, we have a Medium. Fank’s backer claim is totally verifiable. What’s Zarkov saying in the dead chat?


Probably not even with the intention of framing. I think Fank messed up and ended in a sticky situation where the town hadn't considered how this would look on a lookout's list. I can understand why he didn't want to give too much vote power to someone, especially given there are other backers, but if that's the case then he simply shouldn't have visited anyone...
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Re: Mafia: Day 3 - Got 'em!
Reply #1827 - 05/20/16 at 15:41:02
 
Fank009 wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:38:04:
Not really, sam was also on him, and N1 I was blocked so...

Goddamnit Sam.
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Reply #1828 - 05/20/16 at 15:42:47
 
Really have a lot to add here but I have to leave now. It's been a long week for me, for those of you who don't know I'm a music teacher and I'm not being rehired for next year at my school. There was a board of ed meeting last night where more than 100 parents and students came to support me and many made speeches, the meeting lasted 4 hours. Today was a field trip for jazz band and I'm literally about to pass out. I plan on being very involved in this tomorrow  (real time) sorry I kind of flipped out there. I'm emotionally exhausted.
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Reply #1829 - 05/20/16 at 15:44:50
 
DansGame wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:42:47:
Really have a lot to add here but I have to leave now. It's been a long week for me, for those of you who don't know I'm a music teacher and I'm not being rehired for next year at my school. There was a board of ed meeting last night where more than 100 parents and students came to support me and many made speeches, the meeting lasted 4 hours. Today was a field trip for jazz band and I'm literally about to pass out. I plan on being very involved in this tomorrow  (real time) sorry I kind of flipped out there. I'm emotionally exhausted.


I can't lynch this now...
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Simple answer. The single most important thing essential to survival is kart.

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Reply #1830 - 05/20/16 at 15:46:40
 
Fank, who did you back N1?
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Re: Mafia: Day 3 - Got 'em!
Reply #1831 - 05/20/16 at 15:47:02
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:46:40:
Fank, who did you back N1?


he was roleblocked
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Reply #1832 - 05/20/16 at 15:47:06
 
I voted fank because i thought he was mafioso, and the GF and mafioso went to kill Zarkov last night (in order to secure the kill if RB'd), leading to only 1 being protected by the framer, with that one being the GF. I'm not sure if that's the actual procedure, but it made sense in my head. If that can get clarified, I'll take my vote of fank. But since I'm leaving in 30 minutes for the night (and probably won't be back for 12-16ish hours, trust me, it's for the better), I'll leave it as is.
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Re: Mafia: Day 3 - Got 'em!
Reply #1833 - 05/20/16 at 15:47:19
 
Alak, you know that post of dan's having a go at me because of "does town have a roleblock"? how do you feel about that now, and does that look like a post of someone "finding maf"?
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Reply #1834 - 05/20/16 at 15:48:26
 
i'm tired as hell at the moment, can't read anymore so until tomorrow.

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Reply #1835 - 05/20/16 at 15:49:06
 
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:40:46:
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:36:49:
TvK wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:27:34:
1. Maf have a roleblocker
2. Eoj has announced he will watch Zarkov
3. Maf don't roleblock Eoj but still kill Zarkov

Doesn't add up, right?

So mafia just hoped someone would visit Zarkov from town so they could be framed as the killer?

Wait a second, we have a Medium. Fank’s backer claim is totally verifiable. What’s Zarkov saying in the dead chat?


Probably not even with the intention of framing.

That would give away the fact that they have a framer. It’s like a role claim. Why would they want to role block Racer? It makes no sense…
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Re: Mafia: Day 3 - Got 'em!
Reply #1836 - 05/20/16 at 15:49:55
 
Fank009 wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:47:19:
Alak, you know that post of dan's having a go at me because of "does town have a roleblock"? how do you feel about that now, and does that look like a post of someone "finding maf"?

Answer my question first. Who did you back N1?
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Reply #1837 - 05/20/16 at 15:51:48
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:47:06:
I voted fank because i thought he was mafioso, and the GF and mafioso went to kill Zarkov last night (in order to secure the kill if RB'd), leading to only 1 being protected by the framer, with that one being the GF. I'm not sure if that's the actual procedure, but it made sense in my head. If that can get clarified, I'll take my vote of fank. But since I'm leaving in 30 minutes for the night (and probably won't be back for 12-16ish hours, trust me, it's for the better), I'll leave it as is.

that has some pretty sound logic behind it.
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Simple answer. The single most important thing essential to survival is kart.

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Re: Mafia: Day 3 - Got 'em!
Reply #1838 - 05/20/16 at 15:52:43
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:49:55:
Fank009 wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:47:19:
Alak, you know that post of dan's having a go at me because of "does town have a roleblock"? how do you feel about that now, and does that look like a post of someone "finding maf"?

Answer my question first. Who did you back N1?

I went to back brett. I was blocked though.
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Reply #1839 - 05/20/16 at 15:54:03
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:47:06:
I voted fank because i thought he was mafioso, and the GF and mafioso went to kill Zarkov last night (in order to secure the kill if RB'd), leading to only 1 being protected by the framer, with that one being the GF. I'm not sure if that's the actual procedure, but it made sense in my head. If that can get clarified, I'll take my vote of fank. But since I'm leaving in 30 minutes for the night (and probably won't be back for 12-16ish hours, trust me, it's for the better), I'll leave it as is.


No, the framer hides the attacker, so if Fank was the mafioso he wouldn't have been seen. Unless Shock tells me that the attacker still counts as the GF as the mafioso is carrying out the GF's attack. I think it's the former though, as it's the mafioso himself attacking the player. So I don't think Fank can be mafioso. He can't be framer. He can't be consort. He can't be janitor. I don't believe there is a blackmailer.

Fank is likely town backer.
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Reply #1840 - 05/20/16 at 15:54:36
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:49:06:
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:40:46:
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:36:49:
TvK wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:27:34:
1. Maf have a roleblocker
2. Eoj has announced he will watch Zarkov
3. Maf don't roleblock Eoj but still kill Zarkov

Doesn't add up, right?

So mafia just hoped someone would visit Zarkov from town so they could be framed as the killer?

Wait a second, we have a Medium. Fank’s backer claim is totally verifiable. What’s Zarkov saying in the dead chat?


Probably not even with the intention of framing.

That would give away the fact that they have a framer. It’s like a role claim. Why would they want to role block Racer? It makes no sense…


Because without Vinnie's claim, Racer would still have no solid stuff to back his claim. By day 3, that might be mislynchworthy. Also, it basically doesn't matter too much if we know maf have a Framer. The chance was always quite big that they had one anyway. I think it's worth a lot more to them to eliminate a lookout, hiding behind a Framer (giving us that information), than it is to them to hide the fact that they have a Framer.

Anyway, the Framer was always much more useful for them to use combined with the kill, instead of trying to get a Sheriff to get a false read.
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Reply #1841 - 05/20/16 at 15:57:40
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:49:06:
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:40:46:
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:36:49:
TvK wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:27:34:
1. Maf have a roleblocker
2. Eoj has announced he will watch Zarkov
3. Maf don't roleblock Eoj but still kill Zarkov

Doesn't add up, right?

So mafia just hoped someone would visit Zarkov from town so they could be framed as the killer?

Wait a second, we have a Medium. Fank’s backer claim is totally verifiable. What’s Zarkov saying in the dead chat?


Probably not even with the intention of framing.

That would give away the fact that they have a framer. It’s like a role claim. Why would they want to role block Racer? It makes no sense…


Sorry that was an absolutely terrible choice of word. I mean I doubt the mafia had the intention of SETTING UP someone who was visiting Zarkov, I think it just worked out that way. So what if they have a framer? We know that's likely on probability anyway, it doesn't tell us much.

Racer might have been roleblocked by town?
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Reply #1842 - 05/20/16 at 15:58:54
 
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:54:03:
I think it's the former though, as it's the mafioso himself attacking the player. So I don't think Fank can be mafioso.


Yeah, I went and read some posts and then went back to read the description of mafioso, and that seems to be the case. Still not sure how that framer works, but if only one were shielded, it would have been the actual attacker, which would be fank. I'll take my vote off him (also this high vote count has me nervous)

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Reply #1843 - 05/20/16 at 16:02:38
 
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:57:40:
Racer might have been roleblocked by town?


There's only 1 reason, and that was someone actually followed with plan A. (My original plan was to back racer)

Town has no reason to try and STOP someone being cleared unless they thought that it would be helping town. (in this setup roleblockers are detrimental to town from towns point of view)
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Reply #1844 - 05/20/16 at 16:02:49
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:58:54:
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 15:54:03:
I think it's the former though, as it's the mafioso himself attacking the player. So I don't think Fank can be mafioso.


Yeah, I went and read some posts and then went back to read the description of mafioso, and that seems to be the case. Still not sure how that framer works, but if only one were shielded, it would have been the actual attacker, which would be fank. I'll take my vote off him (also this high vote count has me nervous)

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The framer visited ZARKOV. Zarkov was also killed by GF/mafioso. Both wouldn't be seen by eoJ if the kill was successful, which it was. The framer doesn't target a mafia member.
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Reply #1845 - 05/20/16 at 16:05:31
 
In that case maybe mafia is framer, GF, mafioso & consort (start of N2), GF dies, mafioso carries out kill and is now GF. They used framer to hide the attacker so therefore didn't need to roleblock eoJ as they could stay invisible. So they roleblock Racer to try to prevent his claim being legitimised.
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Reply #1846 - 05/20/16 at 16:10:40
 
Ah, I see now. Ok, well I'm off for a while. Like I said, be back in like 12-16 hours  Tongue
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Reply #1847 - 05/20/16 at 16:15:03
 
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 16:05:31:
In that case maybe mafia is framer, GF, mafioso & consort (start of N2), GF dies, mafioso carries out kill and is now GF. They used framer to hide the attacker so therefore didn't need to roleblock eoJ as they could stay invisible. So they roleblock Racer to try to prevent his claim being legitimised.


Now THIS sounds like something that could be thought up by maf!fank.
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Reply #1848 - 05/20/16 at 16:17:47
 
Fank009 wrote on 05/20/16 at 16:15:03:
Timothy wrote on 05/20/16 at 16:05:31:
In that case maybe mafia is framer, GF, mafioso & consort (start of N2), GF dies, mafioso carries out kill and is now GF. They used framer to hide the attacker so therefore didn't need to roleblock eoJ as they could stay invisible. So they roleblock Racer to try to prevent his claim being legitimised.


Now THIS sounds like something that could be thought up by maf!fank.


...
This sounds like a D2 Maf!fank plan???

Alak's status is "proably town"? (there is reading though fank)
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LewisRichards wrote on 11/10/14 at 18:16:44:
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LewisRichards wrote on 08/18/15 at 16:45:10:
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Reply #1849 - 05/20/16 at 16:23:48
 
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Don’t care, still want him dead.

Also guys, I’m pretty sure the game’s solved. Town has won. There are too many confirmed townies, mafia can’t get the upper hand at this point. Town will always have the majority unless we do something really stupid such as backing a mafia or Vigilante killing a confirmed townie (killing a non-confirmed townie is OK). Try and run a simulation. I didn’t even put myself as confirmed townie in mine, and we still win.
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