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Re: Mafia: Day 1 - R.I.P. TNJRFIII
Reply #150 - 05/14/16 at 18:27:56
 
LewisRichards wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:10:32:
I don't know,  Dan's obviously an experienced player... he could be mind gaming hard. I want to see how he plays his no lynch opinion out in the future. He could easily be either.

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Reply #151 - 05/14/16 at 18:28:38
 
Don't think that's going to work out that well Locky, Sam's almost surely gone to bed by now as it's like 3:30 am there. Walter perhaps but there's too many people I want to hear more from like Tim Sportsguy Fank (I know he posted a fair amount but still) Lafungo J-Cop just to name a few. These are all people I've played with before multiple times. I think I can get better reads on them if they post more.
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Reply #152 - 05/14/16 at 18:29:52
 
Locky wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:16:01:
Web wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:07:36:
Since you asked for questions Locky, what are your current feelings about Vinnie's posts so far?


I think Vinnie is being reasonable and I do agree with his post about Brett and Dan not being mafia together judging by their conversation thus far. He seems to be going by the "stream of the consciousness" and isn't afraid to get his thoughts out there

Vinnie, since you've probably made the most reads in the thread right now, could you construct all of them into one post?

Brett is taking a leadership role, which I feel could be coming from a mafia.
Web is a "terrible scum" according to Brett, and I agree with him. Due for reconsideration if Brett is actually mafia
Fank is always confusing to read, but that's his strategy. I've never played with him, but I felt like if I targeted him, his reaction would have cleared up any questions I had about him. I was wrong, so I'm leaving him for later reconsideration.
Dan is probably town, because he targeted me first. It makes sense, because my prior reputation had seemed a little naive (at least from the way I read the situation). I've now realized it's pointless to pursue any connections between him and Brett
Kyle is similar to Locky in that they're both exhibiting similar types of behaviour. I haven't been attempting to read him, but he's probably town.
I felt Locky is a mafia for the same reason he claims Kyle is a mafia. But I don't want to get rid of a helpful town, either. Locky could be making himself important so that others would be hesitant to lynch him.
no control is inexperienced, that is all. Daniel nailed him early on.
tyg might be an inexperienced mafia, from the way he seemed eager that I had dug myself into a deep hole.
I forgot eoj, Lafungo and Yoshistar were playing, I recommend that people use their night abilities on them.
Zac doesn't seem to understand the game very well. This could be a wise strategy, or mafia could be telling him to be quiet in the chat.
Racer seems to be pretty good, but he is pretty quiet as well. Could fall under the same category as Zac.
ALAKTORN, Zarkov, Sportsguy, Timothy, J-Cop, Walter and Sam F haven't done anything noteworthy.
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Reply #153 - 05/14/16 at 18:31:46
 
And I see that Zac isn't being quiet anymore. He seems to have read Brett's post and realized he needs to keep active to avoid suspicion. Definitely my top target now
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Reply #154 - 05/14/16 at 18:38:58
 
Vinnie plz, I've always been eager on this forum. You don't even want to look at my posts on this forum from when I started....... *shivers*
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Reply #155 - 05/14/16 at 18:40:13
 
Tongue must i say again..... i was asleep
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Reply #156 - 05/14/16 at 18:42:06
 
I skimmed over those parts, I'll go reread them
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Reply #157 - 05/14/16 at 18:43:37
 
I see now. Zac may still be mafia but he isn't at the top of my suspicion list. I'll wait for fank to wake up before continuing to play
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Reply #158 - 05/14/16 at 18:43:39
 
Probably going to sleep, thanks for the discussion everyone that was around. Feel like it was very largely town. More people need to get discussing though.
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Reply #159 - 05/14/16 at 18:44:09
 
Day ends in: 38 hours, 16 minutes
12 Effective Votes on one player (or No Lynch) for majority. Note that the votes shown here are total player votes, not necessarily equal to the total number of effective votes.

Updated to Reply #153
(This takes some time to figure out, so stuff has probably changed.... figure out the changes!)

2 -  No Lynch – (Yoshistar, Racer727)
1 - Vinnie (TvK)
1 - no control (Zac)
1 - fank009 - (Lafungo)
1 - J-Cop - (sportsguy001)
1 - eoJ - (no control)
1 - Sam F - (Vinnie927)
1 - Timothy - (Locky)

Not Voting – (eoJ, Zarkov, ALAKTORN, thewebinator, fank009, J-Cop, Brett, DBMK64, thyounggun, kyleb30, Timothy, Sam F, Walter)
Not Posting – (Sam F, Walter)

In case it wasn't clear before, perhaps it wasn't given the way the rules are written: if a majority vote is reached on "No Lynch", the day will end and nobody will be lynched.
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Reply #160 - 05/14/16 at 18:45:18
 
Robertvz wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:43:39:
Probably going to sleep, thanks for the discussion everyone that was around. Feel like it was very largely town. More people need to get discussing though.

I agree, I got targeted for trying to carry the discussion Roll Eyes
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Reply #161 - 05/14/16 at 18:46:45
 
All right c ya Brett
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Reply #162 - 05/14/16 at 18:50:10
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:45:18:
Robertvz wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:43:39:
Probably going to sleep, thanks for the discussion everyone that was around. Feel like it was very largely town. More people need to get discussing though.

I agree, I got targeted for trying to carry the discussion Roll Eyes

You got targeted for coming up with some really far-fetched posts with not much analysis behind them, not for carrying the discussion.

Some of the strongest players are the most quiet so far which will hopefully reverse tomorrow, but I would be interested in hearing some reads from the players who have posted a few times but haven't said too much (like eoJ or ALAKTORN)
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Reply #163 - 05/14/16 at 18:52:07
 
Today is pretty much meaningless.  It will be straight luck if we lynch a mafia member.  

Vinnie is probably town.

Brett probably town, but if he is still alive after night 2/3 99%mafia

I'm most suspicious of DB64.  

Everybody else?  who knows

I haven't found my "too good of a townie" that is really mafia yet.  I'm thinking that will happen day 3.
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Reply #164 - 05/14/16 at 18:55:20
 
But if you say that, then mafia know not to kill Brett so that he becomes a target
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Reply #165 - 05/14/16 at 19:01:03
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:55:20:
But if you say that, then mafia know not to kill Brett so that he becomes a target


Or maybe i want the mafia to keep Brett alive so we will have an experienced player in the game.  The mafia is going to try kill off experienced players and let the newbies run the town into the ground.  
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Reply #166 - 05/14/16 at 19:02:11
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:55:20:
But if you say that, then mafia know not to kill Brett so that he becomes a target


I was going to add this to my "book" but it's too tempting to discuss it now.

Brett is a strong game solvey player. they have two options. 1) keep him alive to lynch. 2) kill him early game.
If they keep him alive, he'll likely get town in a situation where they can solve the game. so there's that dilema
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Reply #167 - 05/14/16 at 19:03:17
 
Well at this point we'll never know if he's mafia or not...
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Reply #168 - 05/14/16 at 19:04:24
 
Fank, Sportsguy, Brett, and Locky are the best players, and are therefore the biggest targets. If one of them is killed, we can assume that the mafia are inexperienced players who are just killing the players that intimidate them.
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Reply #169 - 05/14/16 at 19:05:12
 
Web wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:50:10:
I would be interested in hearing some reads from the players who have posted a few times but haven't said too much (like eoJ or ALAKTORN)

Haven’t you not posted much yourself?

I don’t know why but I feel like either Brett or Fank might be mafia, and from Brett’s posting I’m pretty confident he’s town; on the inverse fank has been on the low. So [vote]fank009[/vote]. “Edit” (I’m just rereading my post and adding not editing): I see Lafungo also voted for fank. Hmm… I wonder if that means he’s town going by my logic…

I agree with Brett after reading his posts that Vinnie is just clueless town.

I don’t think I have any other reads one way or the other…
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Reply #170 - 05/14/16 at 19:10:40
 
Quick post before I go to bed.

Vinnie, Zac, and Racer look like deadweights to me. Vinnie seems town though, because I'd expect his mafia buddies to have shut him up by now if he were scum.

Town lean on Dan and Zoran.

I don't like Sportsguy's first post.

I'd like to know why Locky voted Timothy.

J-Cop should have been back by now, I want to hear from him.

I'd be disappointed if fank and/or Brett dies early, it would make the game a lot less interesting.
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Reply #171 - 05/14/16 at 19:12:33
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/14/16 at 19:01:03:
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:55:20:
But if you say that, then mafia know not to kill Brett so that he becomes a target


Or maybe i want the mafia to keep Brett alive so we will have an experienced player in the game.  The mafia is going to try kill off experienced players and let the newbies run the town into the ground.  

Why would you explain that as town? Yours and fank’s post seem weird coming from town to me. It’s like you’re telling mafia how to win.
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Reply #172 - 05/14/16 at 19:14:17
 
Read over and thoughts.

I don't know how to describe the start of the game? how do you describe people wanting to no lnych in a way that is not offensive?

Just seems to be poor thinking (or lack of experience) that results in these logical fallacies.

Vinnie for sure is the king of logical fallacies (first 2 shot down by brett already)
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 12:19:53:
It seems as if Brett and DBMK64 aren't mafia together. If one of them is lynched, the other one can be cleared.

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 12:31:59:
And Brett, if Dan's town then we'll ignore you unless another lead incriminates you.

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 12:38:40:
Robertvz wrote on 05/14/16 at 12:34:39:
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 12:31:59:
And Brett, if Dan's town then we'll ignore you unless another lead incriminates you.


I'm hardly saying Dan's mafia, I want him to explain why he thinks NL is the right idea. He claims in the games he's played they don't lynch, I'd like to see that. The way you're jumping on my lead looks a lot worse for you than it does for me, just letting you know that, scum.

If you think I'm mafia but are still voting for fank, then he must be really suspicious.
[vote]fank009[/vote]

If this was the only "???" post by Vinnie, I'd say this is a tier 1 maf play. (OK, you think I'm scum? You think fank's scum as well let's go for him)

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:29:52:
[quote author=173A3833323E7516105B0 link=1462902805/125#138 date=1463278561
Fank is always confusing to read, but that's his strategy. I've never played with him, but I felt like if I targeted him, his reaction would have cleared up any questions I had about him. I was wrong, so I'm leaving him for later reconsideration.

-Fank is Always confusing to read
-Never played with the guy
Granted I've had a few posts, but the first post indicates you at least know my posting style, (which would lead to a conflict of point no. 2

Vinnie's definetly coming off as somone who is at best confused when looking at it in some deep thoughts. Doesn't mean he's misdirecting, probably more going in the wrong direction. I somewhat don't like the idea that Vinnie's been picking up a bit of steam for these logical fallacies, and it makes me lean towards him being town.

He has so many "Ugh" moments though :/
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 17:57:59:
What's your stance on roleclaiming?

(While I was posting...)
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Robertvz wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:43:39:
Probably going to sleep, thanks for the discussion everyone that was around. Feel like it was very largely town. More people need to get discussing though.

I agree, I got targeted for trying to carry the discussion Roll Eyes

Vinnie927 wrote on 05/14/16 at 19:04:24:
Fank, Sportsguy, Brett, and Locky are the best players, and are therefore the biggest targets. If one of them is killed, we can assume that the mafia are inexperienced players who are just killing the players that intimidate them.

I'm not going to, I'm not going to. I'll just leave it here.

There's a huge problem I have with vinnie and thats every 2nd post when reread in conjunction with other posts feels like it contains TMI


Brett's been having a good hardworking game as per usual.
Robertvz wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:16:39:
I definitely could keep up this volume as mafia, I have before, which is why you need to look into the content of what I'm posting rather than the sheer number of posts I have. Besides it's quite likely scum will want to off me within the first few days anyway, so I don't think you need to worry about me too much.

his content has been more or less on point as per usual, nothing indicative he has scum motives and worth to keep around for now.



LewisRichards wrote on 05/14/16 at 17:34:54:
Lynching gets us information,  It's hard to break apart the information with a shit tonne of posts... there is a high chance of a mislynch d1, but it's lynch or be killed. If we lynch Vinnie not only do we have a lot less posts to deal with,  but but he keeps changing his mind on shit, open your eyes people and close his, he's obviously fucking mafia.

[Vote]Vinnie729[/vote]


This is a horrible post I've seen a lot of emotional maf in my time and I feel this is one of those moves, even if it was renegged, it doesn't put the genie in the bottle and it's posts like these that should die by fire.
LewisRichards wrote on 05/14/16 at 19:03:17:
Well at this point we'll never know if he's mafia or not...

more bad posts by TYG. This feels like either "guess you'll wonder" or its setting up to be a trap.
Did TYG get good at mafia over the past X amount of moons???


Racer727 wrote on 05/14/16 at 12:28:33:
I don't have anything intelligent to add. [vote]No Lynch[/vote]

Can we kill it with fire?
Racer727 wrote on 05/14/16 at 13:39:41:
So: the suspicious people are Fank and Vinnie.Good to know.

Can we PLEASE kill it with fire???


No control
I think in my first post, there's something about him that strikes my eye, this may be his first game (here) but the "aura" I sense from him he's no slouch to mafia. Those tricks though I'll definetly be watching throughout the game.



Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/14/16 at 18:52:07:
I'm most suspicious of DB64.  


I feel like thats been a thing in this game, where everyone states that they are suspicous of a person and then not really back anything up with their statements.
DBMK64's first post though...
DansGame wrote on 05/14/16 at 11:47:59:
Listen guys, what happened to our beloved mayor is very unfortunate, but let's be reasonable here.  Our town has always been a peaceful place and we can't let one despicable act of violence lead to mass hysteria.  We have a lot of smart people in this town and we should trust in our law enforcement to figure out what is going on here before we start killing people randomly.  (Besides, isn't it better not to lynch on day 1 anyway?)

[vote]No Lynch[/vote]

Um, it feels so patronizing. it feels like something maf will come up with after the end of the night, and the fact the no lynch vote doesn't help anything.


Nothing else worthy of being in the book at this stage I feel.
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Reply #173 - 05/14/16 at 19:14:53
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/14/16 at 15:39:14:
I’m liking a bunch of people so far. Brett and fank clearly have experience and I like reading their posts, so I wouldn’t lynch them unless I was sure they were mafia.


ALAKTORN wrote on 05/14/16 at 19:05:12:
I don’t know why but I feel like either Brett or Fank might be mafia, and from Brett’s posting I’m pretty confident he’s town; on the inverse fank has been on the low. So [vote]fank009[/vote].


Fank has made no posts between your earlier post and the one you have just posted. Why do you feel like he might be mafia now?
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Reply #174 - 05/14/16 at 19:16:15
 
Lafungo wrote on 05/14/16 at 19:10:40:
I'd like to know why Locky voted Timothy.


Was just a vote on an inactive in an attempt to pressure then but Brett pointed out how he'd probably be asleep given his time zone so lol me
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