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Mafia: Game Over - Town Wins! (Read 19513 times)
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Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again
Reply #1225 - 05/17/16 at 15:09:56
 
Lafungo wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:56:20:
Joe Reinreb wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:42:30:
Ok, so this is what happened last night:

I made sure to watch over Tyler (Sportsguy) and the mafia framed me. The result was "Eoj visited your target!"

I thought for sure that I'd be killed, but they went with a frame job instead.

WTF is this!? How do you know you got framed? And how does that affect what result you got from watching Sportsguy?


I already clarified this. I watched Tyler and the report I got back from Shock was that I was the only one who did so. I mistakenly thought that it meant that I was being setup, which was not the case at all.
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Reply #1226 - 05/17/16 at 15:10:04
 
I knew the two roles were Escort and Consort from the discussions above and from when I read the roles at the beginning of the game, "Consort" didn't come out of thin air. I just mixed up the alignments of the roles when I went to make my post.
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Reply #1227 - 05/17/16 at 15:10:38
 
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On ly

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Reply #1228 - 05/17/16 at 15:11:31
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:10:38:
TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:09:25:
On ly

What’s ly?


He meant "only."
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Reply #1229 - 05/17/16 at 15:11:55
 
Anyway some more posts on D1.

Yoshistar
Vinnie
theyounggun

In my mind these guys were wow. They jumped all over the place making posts that i can only call with 1 word - crazy. I saw TvK was pretty hooked up on Yoshistar thing in D1, but i think posting style of this people is just too wild. Does that make them clear? Hell no. Is it a good lynch? I think we can find better.

While i was Investigating Brett i came across racer posts. This guy is even above this 3. However, his posts look much scummier to me. Check posts in D1. Pick any!

I definitely want to hear more from you racer, your thoughts on lynch, on night 1, on day 2, my accusations?

i'm getting to day 2....
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Reply #1230 - 05/17/16 at 15:13:45
 
TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:09:25:
Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:30:22:
Ok here goes, I'm town Consort.

The reason I ended up roleblocking TvK was because of his actions at the very end of D1. He was one of my town leans (behind posters like Brett and Locky) for most of the day, but after I looked back over and switched my vote to J-Cop I started trying to view Yoshistar's posts through the lens of newbie town.  

I considered that TvK might be leading a wagon against an easy lynch that would help him build towncred later, and decided to roleblock him. I'm not sure if I made the right decision but I was trying to make a bold move on intuition.


Also, besides your presumed scum slip, your reasoning just doesn't make sense to me. You were the one who started the wagon on Yoshistar. All day long, you've kept your vote on him, saying multiple times that you believe Yoshistar is the best lynch of the day. On ly in your very last post of the day, you decided to switch to J-Cop (well, your last one was saying that people shouldn't roleclaim).

So when did you decide that I was leading a bad wagon? Never in any of your posts do you hint towards something like that? In your post where you finally switch, your only reasoning is that J-Cop is flying under the radar, aka scummy. You never say anything about Yoshistar being an easy target.

I made that decision on N1 when I was re-reading the entire day. J-Cop's reasoning about lynching an experienced player over a newbie townie was what caused me to change my vote, and it's what made me look at Yoshistar's posts differently. I felt that if he ended up being mafia anyway it would be easy enough to figure that out on a later day and pressure him then.
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Reply #1231 - 05/17/16 at 15:15:13
 
Lafungo wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:07:51:
TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 10:48:05:
Oh and also because of the flips of J-Cop and Walter, I'm leaning towards Yohsistar being town.

Why do you think that J-Cop town and Walter mafia makes Yoshistar town?


Because Yoshistar was the first big wagon to start going and Walter jumped straight on it when he felt like it was headed towards a lynch. Then Brett pushed hard on J-Cop and when he was at like 4 or 5 votes, a lot of people just jumped over to the other wagon. This makes me feel a lot like we were having two big wagons on two members of the town. With scum being happy to sit on either one.

I don't think Walter would've ever jumped on Yoshistar if they were scumbuddies, definitely not because the other two candidate wagons were J-Cop (confirmed town) and Eoj (probably town).
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Reply #1232 - 05/17/16 at 15:16:14
 
Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:13:45:
TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:09:25:
Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:30:22:
Ok here goes, I'm town Consort.

The reason I ended up roleblocking TvK was because of his actions at the very end of D1. He was one of my town leans (behind posters like Brett and Locky) for most of the day, but after I looked back over and switched my vote to J-Cop I started trying to view Yoshistar's posts through the lens of newbie town.  

I considered that TvK might be leading a wagon against an easy lynch that would help him build towncred later, and decided to roleblock him. I'm not sure if I made the right decision but I was trying to make a bold move on intuition.


Also, besides your presumed scum slip, your reasoning just doesn't make sense to me. You were the one who started the wagon on Yoshistar. All day long, you've kept your vote on him, saying multiple times that you believe Yoshistar is the best lynch of the day. On ly in your very last post of the day, you decided to switch to J-Cop (well, your last one was saying that people shouldn't roleclaim).

So when did you decide that I was leading a bad wagon? Never in any of your posts do you hint towards something like that? In your post where you finally switch, your only reasoning is that J-Cop is flying under the radar, aka scummy. You never say anything about Yoshistar being an easy target.

I made that decision on N1 when I was re-reading the entire day. J-Cop's reasoning about lynching an experienced player over a newbie townie was what caused me to change my vote, and it's what made me look at Yoshistar's posts differently. I felt that if he ended up being mafia anyway it would be easy enough to figure that out on a later day and pressure him then.


What other people did you consider to roleblock?
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Reply #1233 - 05/17/16 at 15:17:58
 
And by the way, if you knew you had roleblocked me, than why would you immediatly follow my lead and vote Sam when the day started? If I were maf in your eyes, than that would've meant that I would be leading another mislynch, wouldn't it?
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Reply #1234 - 05/17/16 at 15:23:16
 
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Reply #1235 - 05/17/16 at 15:27:17
 
fank, why did you vote for Dan the shortly after web slipped up? If web is maf it looks like you're trying to move the conversation away from him.
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Reply #1236 - 05/17/16 at 15:27:53
 
TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:17:58:
And by the way, if you knew you had roleblocked me, than why would you immediatly follow my lead and vote Sam when the day started? If I were maf in your eyes, than that would've meant that I would be leading another mislynch, wouldn't it?

^this.
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Reply #1237 - 05/17/16 at 15:28:16
 
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Reply #1238 - 05/17/16 at 15:31:00
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:27:17:
fank, why did you vote for Dan the shortly after web slipped up? If web is maf it looks like you're trying to move the conversation away from him.

Transitioning. the time inbetween web slipping, and me making a mobile post on dan's quote
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Reply #1239 - 05/17/16 at 15:31:08
 
Day ends in: 41 hours, 29 minutes (Immediately if/when vote majority is reached)
10 Effective Votes on one player (or No Lynch) for majority. Note that the votes shown here are total player votes, not necessarily equal to the total number of effective votes.

Updated to Reply #1234
(This takes some time to figure out, so stuff has probably changed.... figure out the changes! Also, the program might be bugged, so please PM me if you see a mistake in your vote.)

2 - thewebinator (Locky, DBMK64)
2 - Sam F (Zarkov, ALAKTORN)
1 - DBMK64 (Fank009)
1 - theyounggun (Vinnie927)
0 - No Lynch

Not Voting – (TvK, eoJ, Zac, Sam F, thewebinator, Lafungo, Racer727, Yoshistar, Sportsguy001, theyounggun, kyleb30, no control, Timothy)
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Reply #1240 - 05/17/16 at 15:36:02
 
eoJ
Sam F
theyounggun
Yoshistar
Zarkov

So this is like my almost-certain/certain town list atm. I believe all the claims [eoJ, Sam F, Zarkov] and I feel as if TYG and Yoshistar are clear in their relation to Walter. [See my first TYG post]

Walter wrote on 05/15/16 at 15:48:35:
sorry i've been busy today, i did not expect this to be 20+ pages so quickly


J-Cop wrote on 05/15/16 at 12:39:00:
I'm not as convinced about Joe as some of you are.  It would be a huge slip for a maf to make himself look so bad on D1, and Joe has been maf many times before.  He knows how to play the part, I doubt he'd make it so obvious this early in the game if he really was mafia.  As for Yoshistar, he's never played on a forum before.  As I've said earlier, new players tend to shoot themselves in the foot because they don't know how to behave yet in a game like this.  He could be maf, but he could just as easily be incompetent town.

I get most of my reads based on how people vote.  If we lynch Joe and he is town, we lose him but have a good read on Clark and Tim, who seem to be pushing the Joe wagon the hardest right now.  If we lynch Yoshistar and he turns up town, it would give us a good read on TvK and maybe Lafungo.  If it's going to be one or the other, I'd rather not lose Joe this early.



this is a good post, the people with the most heat on them are two opposites in terms of experience. if you look at risk vs reward for both helping us and hurting the mafia i'm not so sure i would vote joe on the very first day. yoshistar (and TYG) have been rambling incoherently but this isn't out of the ordinary. i do agree that yoshistar seems like he's trying to say whatever we want to hear, especially after being grilled, so

[vote]Yoshistar[/vote]


RE: Yoshistar

I think Walter, who felt the need to at least make some posts to avoid suspicion, made this post to try not to incriminate any of his team as he didn't have the time to be conduct some "town-looking" bussing D1

What I mean is, is that he quotes J-Cop [town] and talks about eoJ [almost certainly town], TYG [most likely town] and Yoshistar. So this is where I'd assume that Yoshistar is most likely town
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Reply #1241 - 05/17/16 at 15:36:45
 
Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:31:00:
kyleb30 wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:27:17:
fank, why did you vote for Dan the shortly after web slipped up? If web is maf it looks like you're trying to move the conversation away from him.

Transitioning. the time inbetween web slipping, and me making a mobile post on dan's quote

Ok, I can understand that (I'm on mobile currently as well). Will you switch to web now considering ghe new info?
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Reply #1242 - 05/17/16 at 15:38:36
 
Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:30:22:
Ok here goes, I'm town Consort.

What a wonderful slip.
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Reply #1243 - 05/17/16 at 15:40:27
 
after I saw web's slip I've been in/out looking at his d1 posts, see if we can pick up anything.

I lost a lot of interest yesterday after there was a huge consensus to lynch YS. it seemed like everyone else in my timezone did as well, as the whole Australia shift felt quiet. The one thing I dont want to do is have the same thing with web. that's why I'm trying to poke on some maf leans, create some discussion. there's a lot more discussion points now.
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Reply #1244 - 05/17/16 at 15:41:57
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:36:45:
Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:31:00:
kyleb30 wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:27:17:
fank, why did you vote for Dan the shortly after web slipped up? If web is maf it looks like you're trying to move the conversation away from him.

Transitioning. the time inbetween web slipping, and me making a mobile post on dan's quote

Ok, I can understand that (I'm on mobile currently as well). Will you switch to web now considering ghe new info?


probably not (at this stage) we're going to have a similar situation to yesterday, (although this has a lot more weight)
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Reply #1245 - 05/17/16 at 15:43:10
 
ALAKTORN - Not only engaging in discussion but sounds very reasonable in his posts

no control - I like his digging for quotes and posting analysis and he seems very genuine when he goes about them and discusses them

TvK - Day 1 I wasn't really sure about TvK as it seemed as if he was only targetting new players like Yoshistar, Racer, Zac, etc. But his Day 2 has been phenomenal thus far

Vinnie927 - Him going hard Day 1 straight out of the gate still makes me think he is town

Zac - Doesn't seem to be afraid of posting like a new player as mafia would. I'm saying this while comparing him to other players like Racer who haven't been posting as much

My main town leans

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Reply #1246 - 05/17/16 at 15:45:01
 
Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:40:27:
after I saw web's slip I've been in/out looking at his d1 posts, see if we can pick up anything.


FYI he was one of the first people to vote and interrogate YS
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Reply #1247 - 05/17/16 at 15:48:20
 
no control wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:57:37:
Lafungo wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:48:46:
no control wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:24:31:
But i don't get the flip to J-cop instead of Walter. Before being attacked, J-cop made 12 posts, it is not like he told us much. Walter was sooo obvious, but no one followed me except Yoshistar who was desperate.

Walter may have been "obvious", but lynching him was worthless, especially if he flipped town. Because he only had two posts, it would have given town no information from the lynch.


At the end of the day, i was right (at least in this walter thing), Brett was wrong. Look at my post 1159, did you go through Brett's post over the night? You don't think he was suspicious at all based on them?
Not only that J-cop lynch was bad, it would have given us a wrong lead hadn't Brett made a great night 1 choice.

I thought (and think) that it was a perfectly reasonable town play D1. You only say the J-Cop lynch was "bad" in retrospect, and "would have given us a wrong lead", but what would a Walter lynch have gotten us? A dead mafia (in retrospect), sure, but nothing more. J-Cop being town in retrospect doesn't make Brett's decision to push for a J-Cop lynch as town inherently bad.
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Reply #1248 - 05/17/16 at 15:49:38
 
Sorry Zoran I’m an idiot, could you give your opinion on the TvK/Sam/etc. night activity? If you already have (I think so), could you quote your post? I can’t find it.
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Reply #1249 - 05/17/16 at 15:51:54
 
Aaaand here's a list of people whom I didn't mention in my near-cleared town or town-lean posts

Fank009
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Racer727
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Timothy
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Web has to be mafia. I seriously cannot buy that he got his role confused [unless he was looking at the role list before he claimed, I figure you'd be checking your PM instead of the roleset!]

I feel like Racer and Kyle have a chance at being mafia too [see my D1 about Kyle and Racer's less-than-average posting]

I also feel as if Lafungo is asking alot of question without providing much input myself. Plus the "posting whilst I reading the thread" in which he made many responses to posts which were already answered 2 pages ago. Seems like an easy way to make it look like you're contributing

But as I look at the list in my post I'm not 100% sold on the mafia all being in here, my town-lean list probably contains like 2 mafia at the most but it's probably only 1
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