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Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again
Reply #1202 - 05/17/16 at 14:39:20

Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:37:33:

DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:27:58:

Wouldn't it have been hard for TvK and Sam to set up that TvK was pushing Sam hard at the beginning of the day only for TvK to bail him out later? How many backers could there be, is there a chance anyone else has been backed?

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Timothy Titan Offline ate 6387 donuts Cambridge, England Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1203 - 05/17/16 at 14:39:48 ALAKTORN wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:38:24: Timothy wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:37:30: if someone votes the 8th vote on someone where TvK has his vote on that person, then the day ends. That’s how it works. Ok thanks. People need to keep this in mind should this situation happen.
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 holabolas	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1204 - 05/17/16 at 14:40:20 Not sure why I look so suspicious to you Fank when I spent the last two hours talking about how there wasn't hard evidence on Sam and trying to get to the crux of this issue.
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Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again
Reply #1205 - 05/17/16 at 14:43:57

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:39:20:

Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:37:33:

DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:27:58:

Wouldn't it have been hard for TvK and Sam to set up that TvK was pushing Sam hard at the beginning of the day only for TvK to bail him out later? How many backers could there be, is there a chance anyone else has been backed?

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Fank009 King Offline Hey look, Im still alive 5102 days karting NZ Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1206 - 05/17/16 at 14:44:38 DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:40:20: Not sure why I look so suspicious to you Fank when I spent the last two hours talking about how there wasn't hard evidence on Sam and trying to get to the crux of this issue. And that's worth town points?
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Reply #1207 - 05/17/16 at 14:45:13

Timothy wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:37:30:

If TvK is now backed, can Shock tell us now if his vote counts as three or do we only find out if a majority is reached under those conditions? I.e. if someone votes the 8th vote on someone where TvK has his vote on that person, then the day ends.

Backed players, if they exist, will always show up as 1 player vote, and I only give total player votes in my vote updates, as written in the rules.

I will not be confirming or denying anyone getting Backed. It's up to the players to decide/figure out when they think majority will be reached.

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Reply #1209 - 05/17/16 at 14:48:46

no control wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:24:31:

But i don't get the flip to J-cop instead of Walter. Before being attacked, J-cop made 12 posts, it is not like he told us much. Walter was sooo obvious, but no one followed me except Yoshistar who was desperate.

Walter may have been "obvious", but lynching him was worthless, especially if he flipped town. Because he only had two posts, it would have given town no information from the lynch. In that regard, the J-Cop/Yoshistar showdown was much better, because it gives a lot to look back at, and J-Cop actually interacted with other players.

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no control Legend Offline 6571 days karting Croatia,Zagreb Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1210 - 05/17/16 at 14:51:07 Lafungo wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:46:08: Posting responses to people's posts as I catch up... no control wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:02:40: I must admit that seeing Brett flip town is very surprising to me. Why are you surprised that Brett flipped town? Post 1159 explains my view on Brett
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Reply #1211 - 05/17/16 at 14:53:20

Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:44:38:

DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:40:20:

Not sure why I look so suspicious to you Fank when I spent the last two hours talking about how there wasn't hard evidence on Sam and trying to get to the crux of this issue.

And that's worth town points?

I've been trying to figure out every angle of this TvK/Sam/Zoran/Web thing, it should be looked at how many backers there might be so we can figure out with as much certainty as possible if TvK is truly backed by Sam. But anyway now that it seems pretty obvious Web is actually a consort, it pretty much clears TvK and Sam anyway. If Web flips consort is there any way that doesn't clear both of them? And also Zoran probably right?

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Reply #1213 - 05/17/16 at 14:56:20

Joe Reinreb wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:42:30:

Ok, so this is what happened last night:

I made sure to watch over Tyler (Sportsguy) and the mafia framed me. The result was "Eoj visited your target!"

I thought for sure that I'd be killed, but they went with a frame job instead.

WTF is this!? How do you know you got framed? And how does that affect what result you got from watching Sportsguy?

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Reply #1214 - 05/17/16 at 14:57:37

Lafungo wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:48:46:

no control wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:24:31:

But i don't get the flip to J-cop instead of Walter. Before being attacked, J-cop made 12 posts, it is not like he told us much. Walter was sooo obvious, but no one followed me except Yoshistar who was desperate.

Walter may have been "obvious", but lynching him was worthless, especially if he flipped town. Because he only had two posts, it would have given town no information from the lynch.

At the end of the day, i was right (at least in this walter thing), Brett was wrong. Look at my post 1159, did you go through Brett's post over the night? You don't think he was suspicious at all based on them?
Not only that J-cop lynch was bad, it would have given us a wrong lead hadn't Brett made a great night 1 choice.

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Reply #1215 - 05/17/16 at 14:58:34

Clarification:

Please don't use [quote] tags, even unlinked ones, in citing information supposedly from PMs from me. You may use quotation marks, like eoJ did, but that's all. I also would be careful doing this, because it can easily turn into a form of metagaming that I do not want to see in play in this game. Use your judgment and ask me if you have any questions.

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Reply #1216 - 05/17/16 at 14:59:09

Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:38:56:

I know it's going to be hard to believe, but I got the roles mixed up when posting. Other places I've played had the mafia roleblocker as a hooker and I associated that with escort when I was posting. Should have been more careful but I completely understand that the post looks horrible.

That doesn’t really execuse you. You thought Escort = prostitute = mafia… while being Escort. So what happened? You read your PM, it said you’re Escort, you were about to type “I’m Escort” but thought “wait, that’s mafia” and went with “Consort” out of nowhere??? How is Consort less mafia than Escort?

Give me a complete writedown of your thought process and actions when making that role claim.

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Timothy Titan Offline 6387 days karting Cambridge, England Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1217 - 05/17/16 at 15:03:20 Yeah seriously that's such a dumb mistake for anyone to make in a game where a slight slip up can get you lynched.
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Web NinjaWeb Offline Expected MKSC Comeback: 2016?!?! 5795 days karting Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1218 - 05/17/16 at 15:05:18 I associated Escort with the mafia when posting, so posted Consort as I thought that was the town role based on my past experiences with the game (see post above). Of course in retrospect I should have checked my role PM before claiming but I didn't. I mixed up the two roles in my head.
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Reply #1219 - 05/17/16 at 15:06:53

TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 10:46:19:

Zarkov is 100% town. No Control is 99% town. Eoj and Web have a really high chance of being town. Sam F has a really high chance, if not almost a 100% chance of being scum.

Can you clarify your reasoning on each of these players? I'm mostly interested on how you draw your conclusions from the claimed night actions.

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Reply #1221 - 05/17/16 at 15:07:46

Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:05:18:

I associated Escort with the mafia when posting, so posted Consort as I thought that was the town role based on my past experiences with the game (see post above). Of course in retrospect I should have checked my role PM before claiming but I didn't. I mixed up the two roles in my head.

oh ok nevermind then

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Reply #1223 - 05/17/16 at 15:08:40

Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 15:05:18:

I associated Escort with the mafia when posting, so posted Consort as I thought that was the town role based on my past experiences with the game (see post above). Of course in retrospect I should have checked my role PM before claiming but I didn't. I mixed up the two roles in my head.

I understand how you thought Escort = mafia. But where did Consort = town come from?

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Reply #1224 - 05/17/16 at 15:09:25

Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:30:22:

Ok here goes, I'm town Consort.

The reason I ended up roleblocking TvK was because of his actions at the very end of D1. He was one of my town leans (behind posters like Brett and Locky) for most of the day, but after I looked back over and switched my vote to J-Cop I started trying to view Yoshistar's posts through the lens of newbie town.

I considered that TvK might be leading a wagon against an easy lynch that would help him build towncred later, and decided to roleblock him. I'm not sure if I made the right decision but I was trying to make a bold move on intuition.

Also, besides your presumed scum slip, your reasoning just doesn't make sense to me. You were the one who started the wagon on Yoshistar. All day long, you've kept your vote on him, saying multiple times that you believe Yoshistar is the best lynch of the day. On ly in your very last post of the day, you decided to switch to J-Cop (well, your last one was saying that people shouldn't roleclaim).

So when did you decide that I was leading a bad wagon? Never in any of your posts do you hint towards something like that? In your post where you finally switch, your only reasoning is that J-Cop is flying under the radar, aka scummy. You never say anything about Yoshistar being an easy target.

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