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ALAKTORN Myth Offline Resident weeaboo helped 6518 people Italy - Viserba Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1150 - 05/17/16 at 14:01:59 DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:00:15: How do you know you were targeted by a mafia member last night? If you were roleblocked, it could have been either a consort or an escort, right? This is why I wanted to discuss night actions. The roleblocker not doing anything was one of them.
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Reply #1151 - 05/17/16 at 14:02:28

Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 13:57:29:

I don't think eoJ is a good lynch today, as I feel he can continue to verify his role on D3 and if he slips he's an easy lynch.

I also definitely see the points on TYG's scumminess (I raised some of my own early in the day), but I think it's better to focus on concrete evidence (specifically Zarkov's report) rather than speculation for our D2 lynch as I feel it can give us much more information for future days.

He really wasn't able to verify his role and we might just see more of the same on Day 3. For instance based on how things are going today, Lock (for instance) is super under the radar. He could claim to go after Lock and that no one other than himself visited Lock. Or alternatively, he could either be roleblocked tonight or pretend to be roleblocked.

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Sam F Ex Member	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1152 - 05/17/16 at 14:02:37 TvK, need me to roleclaim? It'll make sense after I claim
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Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again
Reply #1153 - 05/17/16 at 14:03:42

DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:00:15:

TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 13:57:22:

DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 13:22:30:

Looking at Sam F and TYG, I'm really not seeing why Sam looks more mafia than TYG. TYG's posts about Jake first day look really, really bad. Sam basically hasn't said much - TvK, what makes you think Sam is much more likely to be mafia than Zoran or Web? Obviously TvK wasn't targeted for killing by the mafia last night otherwise Zarkov's log would have shown that Brett and Walter also visited him, so what other mafia role would Sam have? Clearly TvK wasn't blackmailed. Zoran does seem town after going hard after Walter when there were already wagons on D1 and then turning out to be right. Are you sure there was a mafia member targeting you TvK?

Also, going back to what I asked earlier, would it make sense for whoever was attacked last night to reveal who they were?

This is why I wanted to discuss night actions. The roleblocker not doing anything was one of them.

Also how does that matter about Godfather/Mafioso, TvK?
I was targeted by a mafia member last night. It's not Zoran and Web's reaction is exactly what I expected from a town member. Even before Web or Zoran said anything, I already was pretty sure that Sam was the mafia member.

Also mind that the mafia godfather carried out the kill, but Walter died because he was the maffioso.

How do you know you were targeted by a mafia member last night? If you were roleblocked, it could have been either a consort or an escort, right?

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ALAKTORN Myth Offline Resident weeaboo 6518 days karting Italy - Viserba Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1155 - 05/17/16 at 14:05:49 TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 13:57:22: Also mind that the mafia godfather carried out the kill, but Walter died because he was the maffioso. How does that matter? Also fucking new page glitch.
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Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again
Reply #1156 - 05/17/16 at 14:06:11

DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:02:28:

Web wrote on 05/17/16 at 13:57:29:

I don't think eoJ is a good lynch today, as I feel he can continue to verify his role on D3 and if he slips he's an easy lynch.

I also definitely see the points on TYG's scumminess (I raised some of my own early in the day), but I think it's better to focus on concrete evidence (specifically Zarkov's report) rather than speculation for our D2 lynch as I feel it can give us much more information for future days.

He really wasn't able to verify his role and we might just see more of the same on Day 3. For instance based on how things are going today, Lock (for instance) is super under the radar. He could claim to go after Lock and that no one other than himself visited Lock. Or alternatively, he could either be roleblocked tonight or pretend to be roleblocked.

I do see your point about the roleblocking, but I'm more in line with fank's reasoning earlier that lookout is a really difficult role to claim as scum and eoJ could easily be fished out on a later day if he attempted it. I think with the evidence we have in front of us we stand to gain more information by lynching from within Zarkov's report.

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Sam F Ex Member	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1157 - 05/17/16 at 14:08:13 TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:05:37: &b wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:02:37: TvK, need me to roleclaim? It'll make sense after I claim Yes. Fuck it, backer.
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Sam F Ex Member	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1158 - 05/17/16 at 14:09:12 And TvK, can you answer Alaks question of how you knew you was attacked by a mafia?
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Reply #1159 - 05/17/16 at 14:09:45

Ok, i said i will explain why i thought Brett was scummy. I dag up some things on Brett last night. Looking at his posts, he is the one who started J-cop wagon and.

His earliest post on j-cop and vote

Robertvz wrote on 05/15/16 at 06:04:07:

I'd probably focus mainly on J-Cop, Lafungo, and Timothy. J-Cop in particular has posts that are just going along with the flow of the game and I expect better from him, quite frankly. Other two just need to post more.

[vote]J-Cop[/vote]

Yoshistar/j-cop duo he promoted. Looking at this after the eod1, Brett got his way. This were his choces and i felt he was running the game and he ran it into bad lynch.

Robertvz wrote on 05/15/16 at 08:29:02:

Because I'm not positive on TYG being mafia, I think Yoshistar/JCop are better lynches. Why do you disagree with me then since you're apparently so adamant against my choices?

IT continues post after post:

Robertvz wrote on 05/15/16 at 08:35:24:

If you go back and read what J-Cop has said he's just going along with the flow of the game. He's not bringing any new analysis into the game, which for an experienced player like him (I've seen him play in at LEAST four games, that I can recall, from this forum) is odd. I know he's much better than this. Yoshistar is in a similar boat to him.

Robertvz wrote on 05/15/16 at 08:47:13:

Vinnie's not 100% the last person I'd lynch but there's a handful of people (J-Cop, Yoshistar, maybe even Tim) that I scumread more. I've played with Tim before and he's typically inactive as a mafia member but admittedly I don't remember a whole ton about his towngames. But I think J-Cop/Yoshi are the best two lynches, heck they may even be m/m.

The list goes on and on to a total of 23 posts gunning for J-cop and on some J-cop/Yoshistar duo

320,322,

As he comes back, he continues with J-cop push

Robertvz wrote on 05/15/16 at 16:54:19:

I'm a little surprised Yoshi got so many votes that quickly, I know he was a hotly contested person but I didn't expect to wake up from my nap and see 9 votes on him. Not complaining as long as lynch doesn't go through. Idk why no one seems to care about J-Cop though.

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This one got me worried a lot...

Racer727 wrote on 05/16/16 at 06:30:22:

Robertvz wrote on 05/16/16 at 06:28:06:

Racer727 wrote on 05/16/16 at 06:27:33:

I can chat for like 10 more minutes. Anything I can help with?

Yeah vote J-Cop.

Okay. [vote]J-Cop[\vote]

Brett is a respected player here as i see, people asked him a lot for thoughts on stuff. I already posted Alaktorn thoughts on Brett at the end of day 1, now you see racer acting on Brett commands. There were too many people under his influance. In my mind if he was mafia he could have easily gather an Brettmania townie army on his side.

List goes on about the J-cop thing...

860,876, 890

Then there is not going for Walter thing and lynching random which i find bad.

In the end here is a list off players who didn't feel like voting J-cop over yoshistar or voting j-cop at all, but some of them flipped (and there are some experienced names).

DBMK64 - 313

Lafungo - 318

Vinnie - 330

FANK - 607, 676

zac - 624 - brett keeping the pressure on

Yoshistar - 671

the webinator - 706,717

theyounggun - 716,723

lafungo - 774, 788, 900

TvK - 808

Zoran - 834

Timothy - 867

I'll post more thoughts on day 2 soon and some on day 1 suspects.

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TvK NinjaTvK Offline 5510 days karting Belgium Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1160 - 05/17/16 at 14:10:50 &b wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:09:12: And TvK, can you answer Alaks question of how you knew you was attacked by a mafia? Because three people townreading me all day long wouldn't roleblock me.
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Reply #1161 - 05/17/16 at 14:10:51

Shock wrote on 05/17/16 at 09:00:09:

Walter, a Mafioso, was killed by a Bodyguard!

[quote author=727D776A797F667D7776767D130 link=1462902805/0#1 date=1462902931] Quote:

You have been promoted by the Godfather to Mafioso

It looks like you have to be promoted from a roll to mafioso, meaning Walter could have been blackmailer???

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Reply #1162 - 05/17/16 at 14:11:11

&b wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:08:13:

TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:05:37:

&b wrote on 05/17/16 at 14:02:37:

TvK, need me to roleclaim? It'll make sense after I claim

Yes.

Fuck it, backer.

Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:34:58:

ALAKTORN wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:31:46:

Fank009 wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:24:56:

If I was joe, and I was mafia, I wouldn't claim lookout
(Not unless I was the maf version)

What would you claim?

One of backer/sheruff/doc.

lookout is such a high maintenance role that you have no control in securing the claim.

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ALAKTORN wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:24:31:

OH YEAH WHY AM I NOT GLOATING MORE

I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GET FUCKED

My YouTube

MKDS: 31 GODs, 28 Myths, 5 Titans, Hold 9 NoPRB CRs, Hold 11 PRB CRs, Hold 2 NoMT WRs, Held 7 NoPRB WRs and 8 Beta WRs
MKW: Held 2 3lap WRs, many Flaps
MK7: Held a lot of WRs
MK8: Held some WRs

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Sam F Ex Member	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1163 - 05/17/16 at 14:12:08 TvK, confirm you got backed please.
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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3358 days karting	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1164 - 05/17/16 at 14:12:30 If TvK has been backed then this makes Sam look much more town.
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TvK NinjaTvK Offline punched 5510 kiddies Belgium Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1165 - 05/17/16 at 14:13:23 I can confirm that I was backed last night. Sam should be town.
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Reply #1166 - 05/17/16 at 14:13:30

Zarkov wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:42:42:

DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:39:09:

I hadn't followed anything on Sam yet but I'll read up on the case in a bit. I'm wondering what Alaktorn's wondering, what role would it have made sense for Eoj to claim otherwise to try to avoid being lynched? Maybe sheriff? I think we should go back and look at how much suspicion Eoj was under when he roleclaimed to see if maybe he felt like that was his only way to not get lynched. Also of note was that Eoj never voted yesterday (was he around when the end was near and it seemed unsure who was going to get lynched?) and what might that say about Yoshistar?

Joes defence for not voting was "whatever I vote youll jump on me, so il abstain". He couldve gone on Walter, in which case that wouldve pretty much cleared him (unless he was willing to buss a fellow maf), or J-Cop which wouldve made him super sketchy. Especially at EoD.

The fact he went on neither is either clever maf, or silly town. Judging by how its gone, im leaning silly town Day 2.

Nah, voting Walter wouldn't have cleared him at all, given the large # of votes on YS/J-Cop. Could have just been a mafia voting mafia just to disassociate, this happens all the time. I'm reading through the thread so am catching up.

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Sam F Ex Member	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1167 - 05/17/16 at 14:14:57 Now that is out of the way, I'm gonna sleep. Good chance I wont have time to make a post but I will try to catch up at least.
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Reply #1169 - 05/17/16 at 14:15:43

LewisRichards wrote on 05/17/16 at 13:10:41:

I agreed with Brett's opinions on Walter not getting lynched D1, and I really agreed with the YS lynch at the time. I didn't mean for those posts to come off as defending him, more of delaying him was my goal. It's unfortunate Walter actually turned out to be mafia, I was definitely planning to push Walter D2.

Why's that unfortunate? Mafia kills are never a bad thing.

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DansGame Ninja Offline I Love Mark 2.0! helped 3358 people	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1170 - 05/17/16 at 14:15:48 TvK, I didn't follow who was townreading you or not yesterday. How positive are you that you were roleblocked by a mafia member, and which one do you more suspect?
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Web NinjaWeb Offline Expected MKSC Comeback: 2016?!?! drank 5795 beers Gender:	Re: Mafia: Day 2 - Make Town Great Again Reply #1171 - 05/17/16 at 14:17:28 [vote]unvote[/vote] With that Sam F claim and the confirmation from TvK I can't see how he's mafia now. I think it makes the most sense for me to roleclaim to aid the town with their discussion. Anyone want to confirm?
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Reply #1172 - 05/17/16 at 14:19:45

Well, this leaves Zoran and Web. Zoran has only made town posts all game long, so I would have a very hard time believing that he is mafia. Definitely because he seemed to eager to claim when Zarkov said that he visited me, and now he wants to claim again. If I had to choose between Zoran and Web, I would say Web is the mafia member that roleblocked me.

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