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Reply #1050 - 05/17/16 at 11:21:56
 
I'm completely not understanding why Eoj is avoiding suspicion. He said multiple things about what his PM said and he finally came up with "no one other than me visited sportsguy" last night. That means that no one can verify Eoj's claim that he wasn't a lookout. How is this not a huge red flag? Why did he visit sportsguy of all people, if he wanted to be able to verify his lookout claim, he should have looked at someone more obvious like Brett, no?
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Reply #1051 - 05/17/16 at 11:25:46
 
TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:17:38:
Also, I reread the entire thread to see if there are any leads to potential scumbuddies of Walter. These are the posts that particularly stood out for me:

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Sportsguy001 wrote on 05/15/16 at 12:43:16:
Walter needs to post something.  1 post all game.  Potential mafia member playing it safe?  laziness?


probably lazy.....


I'm not entirely sure here, but why the hell would you go and say this Zac? How would you now that Walter was lazy? Are you trying to divert the attention away from your scumbuddy?



Same, not entirely sure why i posted that either Tongue I actually don't know if  he is lazy or not but i didn't really know what else to post at that moment i guess......   I don't really know much about anybody pretty much but i try my best to figure stuff out and try to post the best thing i can Tongue
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Reply #1052 - 05/17/16 at 11:26:42
 
Well I already thought TYG and Sam were scummy so you didn’t make any surprising reveal there. About Zac I’m not sure, he could be maf or town.
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Reply #1053 - 05/17/16 at 11:28:27
 
I just read the topic and I'm still not sure, why isn't Web a suspect at all?
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Reply #1054 - 05/17/16 at 11:31:32
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:28:27:
I just read the topic and I'm still not sure, why isn't Web a suspect at all?

You have something suspicious on him?
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Reply #1055 - 05/17/16 at 11:33:31
 
No, I'm just confused as to why Sam F automatically became the top suspect
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Reply #1056 - 05/17/16 at 11:34:58
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:28:27:
I just read the topic and I'm still not sure, why isn't Web a suspect at all?

Why not, any suspicions about him ???
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Reply #1057 - 05/17/16 at 11:36:58
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:33:31:
No, I'm just confused as to why Sam F automatically became the top suspect


did you read the earlier posts?
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Reply #1058 - 05/17/16 at 11:37:31
 
TYG seems suspicious to me as well, reading those highlighted posts about Walter makes him look like he was supporting him, not entirely confident he could be scum, but I definitely want answers from him why he acted like that.
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Reply #1059 - 05/17/16 at 11:38:48
 
I believe that tyg is the most definite mafia so far, for reasons I've said on D1 and this recent revelation relating to Walter.
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Reply #1060 - 05/17/16 at 11:39:05
 
Can anybody answer my concerns about Eoj? After he slipped yesterday the reason we didn't wagon on him was to see if he could verify his lookout roleclaim tonight. Saying that he visited sportsguy and that he was the only person who visited means that no one can verify if they visited Sportsguy.
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Reply #1061 - 05/17/16 at 11:42:06
 
DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:39:05:
Can anybody answer my concerns about Eoj? After he slipped yesterday the reason we didn't wagon on him was to see if he could verify his lookout roleclaim tonight. Saying that he visited sportsguy and that he was the only person who visited means that no one can verify if they visited Sportsguy.

I was wondering about that too, eoj was suspicious to me but i really haven't made up my mind about him
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Reply #1062 - 05/17/16 at 11:44:27
 
Zac what exactly made you change your mind on Eoj. I get that you couldn't get online before the day ended and that's fine, but something must have happened or been said to get you to change your stance on him
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Reply #1063 - 05/17/16 at 11:48:42
 
DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:39:05:
Can anybody answer my concerns about Eoj? After he slipped yesterday the reason we didn't wagon on him was to see if he could verify his lookout roleclaim tonight. Saying that he visited sportsguy and that he was the only person who visited means that no one can verify if they visited Sportsguy.


Because of the reasons Brett already gave us last day:

Robertvz wrote on 05/15/16 at 18:52:39:
There's 4 possible outcomes with Joe at night.

1. They leave him alone, Joe watches someone and if need be can confirm himself by saying X visited Y. X can confirm/deny it if need be. It's possible that Joe and X could collude that as mafia but eventually it would backfire hard so probably wouldn't happen. If Joe claims X visited Y and X denies it, then there's your lynch.

2. They kill him, that's fine, he was a lynchable townie that now drew the night kill, a decent enough scenario given the circumstances.

3. They roleblock him, preventing him from watching someone to confirm himself. Also fine, draws the mafia roleblock.

4. They blackmail him, preventing him from easily outing info. We can still communicate by asking him to vote the person he watched and stuff. Not to mention, Joe being blackmailed wouldn't be the end of the world either.

All this is lost if we lynch him. His play so far with the riddles has been sporadic at best but I don't think it's alignment indicative. It's just bad play as either side. Again it's one thing if he claimed something unverifiable like bodyguard, but lookout is fully verifiable.


Obviously if Sportsguy comes and he tells us anything that's not in sync with what Eoj told us, than we know for sure that one of them is scum. But so far, yes, the fact that claimed lookout is what makes him town to me.
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Reply #1064 - 05/17/16 at 11:49:48
 
DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:39:05:
Can anybody answer my concerns about Eoj? After he slipped yesterday the reason we didn't wagon on him was to see if he could verify his lookout roleclaim tonight. Saying that he visited sportsguy and that he was the only person who visited means that no one can verify if they visited Sportsguy.

Well the fact they can't verify it, I stay with my current thoughts about him. Which is being suspicious, but not so sure about him being a mafia.
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Reply #1065 - 05/17/16 at 11:52:11
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:49:48:
DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:39:05:
Can anybody answer my concerns about Eoj? After he slipped yesterday the reason we didn't wagon on him was to see if he could verify his lookout roleclaim tonight. Saying that he visited sportsguy and that he was the only person who visited means that no one can verify if they visited Sportsguy.

Well the fact they can't verify it, I stay with my current thoughts about him. Which is being suspicious, but not so sure about him being a mafia.


What other suspicions could you possibly have except for him being scum?
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Reply #1066 - 05/17/16 at 11:56:45
 
Vinnie927 wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:38:48:
I believe that tyg is the most definite mafia so far, for reasons I've said on D1 and this recent revelation relating to Walter.
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I can remember you saying that you thought Tyg was clueless maf. Why didn't you push harder on him yesterday?
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Reply #1067 - 05/17/16 at 11:57:34
 
kyleb30 wrote on 05/17/16 at 11:44:27:
Zac what exactly made you change your mind on Eoj. I get that you couldn't get online before the day ended and that's fine, but something must have happened or been said to get you to change your stance on him


I am still keeping my eye on him but i really don't see him as a scum right now.... he hasn't done much of anything after day-1 and i don't know if he is a person I should still vote. I am trying to figure out why people are going after others but sometimes i may need more explanation about it and thats what i think i got earlier..... still haven't figured if i would change it or not but i am trying my best to find out who may be scum or not
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Reply #1068 - 05/17/16 at 12:00:21
 
Sportsguy didn't reply yet, so it basically relies on what he possibly could say about this situation. I can't be confident about my suspicion on him until we hear answers from sportsguy.
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Reply #1069 - 05/17/16 at 12:04:22
 
Let's say you're Eoj and you're mafia. You're under suspicion and you respond by roleclaiming. It becomes obvious that you can clear yourself as lookout by watching someone at night and seeing who's on them. Since you're not actually a lookout, you claim that you visited someone who I think was not an obvious target to be visited by either side (sportsguy) and then claim that only you visited him, which means that no one can verify your claim. The obvious move for him should have been to visit someone like Brett who was probably going to have lots of visitors, it makes no sense to have visited sportsguy.
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Reply #1070 - 05/17/16 at 12:09:14
 
Furthermore by claiming to visit sportsguy, someone who at least in my mind seems unlikely to have had visitors, it's unlikely that someone else actually did visit sportsguy to counter Eoj's claim. I'm willing to change my vote but to me it seems like Eoj is mafia and did the only thing he could do to try and clear himself.

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I'm willing to reconsider if someone has really solid evidence on someone else and can justify why Eoj might not be guilty here, I just don't buy it at all. I'll look at other people when I get home in 20-30 minutes (on my phone now)
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Reply #1071 - 05/17/16 at 12:13:40
 
On a different note, would it be valuable for the person who was attacked to out themselves? They were given a notification right? Couldn't we learn something about the mafia's kill target?
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Reply #1072 - 05/17/16 at 12:15:07
 
DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:04:22:
Let's say you're Eoj and you're mafia. You're under suspicion and you respond by roleclaiming. It becomes obvious that you can clear yourself as lookout by watching someone at night and seeing who's on them. Since you're not actually a lookout, you claim that you visited someone who I think was not an obvious target to be visited by either side (sportsguy) and then claim that only you visited him, which means that no one can verify your claim. The obvious move for him should have been to visit someone like Brett who was probably going to have lots of visitors, it makes no sense to have visited sportsguy.


Still, we make him do the same next night. The same procedure goes. If he indeed in maf, he's just digging his own grave. Also, Eoj has given his reasons why he visited Sportsguy this night. Do you not buy them at all. I would actually much rather have you take a look at Sam F at this point, because he is the one that immediatly got 3 votes.
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Reply #1073 - 05/17/16 at 12:18:20
 
DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:09:14:
Furthermore by claiming to visit sportsguy, someone who at least in my mind seems unlikely to have had visitors, it's unlikely that someone else actually did visit sportsguy to counter Eoj's claim. I'm willing to change my vote but to me it seems like Eoj is mafia and did the only thing he could do to try and clear himself.

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I'm willing to reconsider if someone has really solid evidence on someone else and can justify why Eoj might not be guilty here, I just don't buy it at all. I'll look at other people when I get home in 20-30 minutes (on my phone now)


I see, i got the same feeling about that but i dont know much yet Tongue
if sportsguy replies and it seems to be not true i'll vote for him but for now, i'll wait Tongue
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Reply #1074 - 05/17/16 at 12:20:12
 
TvK wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:15:07:
DansGame wrote on 05/17/16 at 12:04:22:
Let's say you're Eoj and you're mafia. You're under suspicion and you respond by roleclaiming. It becomes obvious that you can clear yourself as lookout by watching someone at night and seeing who's on them. Since you're not actually a lookout, you claim that you visited someone who I think was not an obvious target to be visited by either side (sportsguy) and then claim that only you visited him, which means that no one can verify your claim. The obvious move for him should have been to visit someone like Brett who was probably going to have lots of visitors, it makes no sense to have visited sportsguy.


Still, we make him do the same next night. The same procedure goes. If he indeed in maf, he's just digging his own grave. Also, Eoj has given his reasons why he visited Sportsguy this night. Do you not buy them at all. I would actually much rather have you take a look at Sam F at this point, because he is the one that immediatly got 3 votes.


Ya, thats right, but why did he get voted 3 times right at the start?
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