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Introducing glitch charts to the MK7 player’s page
02/05/16 at 02:45:43
 
Anytime soon, we will add glitch charts to MK7. I have been discussing this with Nicola and Alex. We really lack them and we hope it will be a step forward for the mk7 page.
They will not count for any overall rankings or total times, because we think we are way too late for that and so it would be unfair to all the players who have quit mk7 by now.

We will add 9 glitch tracks, they correspond to the WR history site:

WL G = Wuhu Loop Glitch
NBC G = Neo Bowser City Glitch
MW G = Maka Wuhu Glitch
DKJ G = Donkey Kong Jungle Glitch
rBC1 G = Retro Bowser Castle 1 Glitch
rLM G = Retro Luigi Mansion Glitch
rDC G = Retro Daisy Cruiser Glitch
rMT G = Retro Maple Treeway Glitch
rKC G = Retro Koopa Cape Glitch

We would also add 8 flaps for these tracks (there will be no WL G flap chart, because everyone will have 00:000 anyway)

On the bottom of each player’s timesheet, we add 17 tracks (9 tracks + 8 flaps). No totals mentioned below it.

The 9 glitch tracks will also appear on a charts page and on the site records page.

The overall rankings will stay non glitch only. Glitch times don’t count there.

We don’t have any glitch standards for now. We will try to implement them soon.

When Alex succeeded in adding these changes to the site, we would announce it in a special news article. From then on, all players must specify G when they submit any of the glitch tracks and flaps mentioned here above. All the rest of time submitting should stay the same as it is now. However we recommend to specify NG for all your nonglitch times too, so time updaters wouldn't have any doubts about your time being a possible glitch time.

This example would be a correct submission:

Date: Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:00pm
Name: Willy Whatever
rMT NG 2:20.148
rMT G 2:04.758
RR 1:40.365
WL G 1:20.871
rDKP 2:02.456
rAF 1:57.423
rAF flap: 39.591
rBC1 G flap 23.549
rKC NG flap 43.823

The glitch charts will start empty. We will ask not to post your NG times as G times. We will try to keep it completely separate.

Of course it’s allowed to send us your glitch PR’s that you obtained in the past. And it’s not necessary to submit them with the correct date of when you achieved them, but you can do that if you want to. If your name is Wouter, and your MW G will be Site record, then we prefer you use the correct date.

It will be okay to send in a glitch time that is slower than a no glitch time. For example: If your rKC NG time is 2:13, and you are playing rKC G and you got 2:14, you can still send it in.

There, I think I mentioned the most important things. I hope you are all excited about this. If you have questions, please post them here below.

Big thanks to Alex for doing all the work and making this happen.
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Reply #1 - 02/05/16 at 07:42:44
 
rMT G 01:50.317 9th WW on the PP Ayyyyyyyyyyy Cool
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Reply #2 - 02/05/16 at 10:04:07
 
Great! even if I knew it lol

I hope that a lot of people will submit their glitch times/allow people to do it to make these rankings accurate Smiley

But just a question: it's forbidden to submit no glitch times to the glitch category, isn't it?
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Reply #3 - 02/05/16 at 10:05:14
 
wHen can we submit our glitch times?
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Re: Introducing glitch charts to the MK7 player’s
Reply #4 - 02/05/16 at 13:20:07
 
Hugo wrote on 02/05/16 at 10:04:07:
But just a question: it's forbidden to submit no glitch times to the glitch category, isn't it?


Yes.  You may not use the glitch for the nonglitch charts. And you must use the glitch for the glitch charts.
They are not 'anything goes' charts.

MK7Jack wrote on 02/05/16 at 10:05:14:
wHen can we submit our glitch times?

When the site and the parser are adapted. I don't know a date.
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Reply #5 - 02/05/16 at 13:23:39
 
Frederiek wrote on 02/05/16 at 13:20:07:
Hugo wrote on 02/05/16 at 10:04:07:
But just a question: it's forbidden to submit no glitch times to the glitch category, isn't it?


Yes.  You may not use the glitch for the nonglitch charts. And you must use the glitch for the glitch charts.
They are not 'anything goes' charts.

MK7Jack wrote on 02/05/16 at 10:05:14:
wHen can we submit our glitch times?

When the site and the parser are adapted. I don't know a date.


Oh ok thanks  Grin
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Reply #6 - 02/06/16 at 00:09:47
 
Sounds good to me.  Maybe I'll start playing glitch tracks again  Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - 02/07/16 at 22:34:45
 
Charts are up and currently empty, so here's a good chance to own a shiny record before someone else submits their better time!

We still need to:
(a) think about Glitch standards; currently using the NonGlitch ones, which don't make sense for Glitch
(b) update the Join page
(c) think about rankings or other pages that may be suitable

Please point out any issues, errors or confusing text in any of the pages.
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Re: Introducing glitch charts to the MK7 player’s
Reply #8 - 02/08/16 at 00:25:20
 
THANK YOU ALEX! It's exactly what we asked for  Smiley

one thing:
I see you changed the updating pages but the parser itself, in the 'update times' section, hasn't changed. It doesn't recognize G and we can only choose 'combined' there.

btw, we are already working on the glitch standards. And when I have some more time, I will propose those changes to the 'joining info' page.

EDIT: okay it works now. I encountered another small problem. I've send you a pm about it.  Wink
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Reply #9 - 02/09/16 at 12:26:09
 
Thanks a lot Alex Cheesy

However, I just noticed something wrong: as you can see here (if you go below at the bottom of the first table), you'll only see one AF score that regroups the 3laps and flap AF... Even weirder: when you click on it, you can see that you're AF isn't even ranked lol (http://www.mariokart64.com/mk7/afc.php?hl=43.0625)
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Reply #10 - 02/09/16 at 12:45:58
 
^
apparently laps and courses are counted together for AF points on the profile page.
This is how it used to look like with laps and courses separated: http://web.archive.org/web/20160110170125/http://www.mariokart64.com/mk7/prof...

Also: Hugo De Moya is ranked #61 (for mk7) on the overall MK combined ranks, while he is #71. So I guess the mk7 combined AF's are showing there, while it should be the nonglitch AF.

And I had another question, if I may: Is it possible for the time updates to install a warning when a player's glitch time equals his nonglitch time?

Thanks  Smiley
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Reply #11 - 02/10/16 at 10:27:24
 
Noticed something else there: http://www.mariokart64.com/mk7/profile.php?pid=402&sort=pos

If you click on my Maple Treeway flap at the top of the table, you'll come at the Toad Circuit 3laps chart. The times are actually ordered by track, whatever if you ordered them by date, rank etc

EDIT: However the links to the charts (without highlights) seem to work well
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Reply #12 - 02/10/16 at 13:21:16
 
Do you need flaps now to see my ARR and my PRSR now? :/
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Reply #13 - 02/10/16 at 21:49:32
 
Issues should be fixed now.
- split Course and Lap totals on bottom of profiles, linking only Courses to other pages
- adjusted the incorrect numbers on sorted links
- updated combinedranks to point to NonGlitch ranking. (Wait until next combinedranks update to verify)

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Reply #14 - 02/11/16 at 00:53:18
 
All the no-glitch times should also be added to the glitched charts imo. It looks really weird to see a SR of 2:08.9 on rKC while the NG SR is 2:07.5.

Anyway, great job Alex! I've ben waiting for this for years  Tongue
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Reply #15 - 02/11/16 at 01:48:54
 
Zepple wrote on 02/11/16 at 00:53:18:
All the no-glitch times should also be added to the glitched charts imo. It looks really weird to see a SR of 2:08.9 on rKC while the NG SR is 2:07.5.


Give it some time, this is just the beginning.
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Reply #16 - 03/22/16 at 16:38:57
 
i like it tho Smiley
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