KVD wrote on 10/23/15 at 04:16:30:


i'll be there as well!!!    p.s MJ i know this is about SMK but make sure you get ready to rumble on 64 2  

Perfect to have 8 participants I'm looking forward to it!!

I'm probably posting this in the wrong order, but the day will then look like this:

10.30 - 11.00 arrivals, set-up
11.00 - 13.00 battle mode
13.00 - 15.00 match race
15.00 - 16.30 time trials
16.30 - 19.00 gp150cc

Food breaks and stuff will be a little uncoordinated, basically eat, relax, etc when you're not playing. I hope that works for everyone.

Alternatively, we can plan it less packed and play less matches (for example with different tournament set-ups). Just let me know what you guys prefer.

I really fail to see how, as those are not real scores.
In fact, everyone I spoke to so far involved in the Dutch Open agreed that this system would be the optimal one to use.  

In my mind we would both have been knocked out by Aron. I would argue here that the order in which we met Aron should not determine our final ranking (Aron did not suddenly become a better player 1 round later).

To be more accurate, I would agree. I'm not sure if we want to do this in this case, with such a short set-up.

Rules are rules and more important is to have fun.

But in the example, Wild lose against Aron in semis => so if Wild win then his next match in the loser bracket he will play again Aron for the big final... and if Wild win this one 2-1 he will gain the tittle despite the aggregate result (3-3) ... so it's why given a small advantage to Aron seem more accurate but up to you of course

KVD wrote on 11/25/15 at 06:32:25:


Aron won, how is that not a screwed up simulation?

Match Race simulation:



I think Moll will appreciate the succesful simulation this time.  

Assuming 1.5 mins per race:
Round 1 = 12 mins
L Round 1 = 6 mins
Round 2 = 10 min
L Round 2 = 10 min
Semi finals = 12 min
L round 3 = 12 min
semi final = 12 min
final = 15 min

In this case there is no need to play on separate TV's simultaneously semi final & L round 3, we have enough time to stream them both I'd say.

Total: ~1h30mins

KVD wrote on 11/25/15 at 06:32:25:


You screwed it up, like everything, just admit it  

That whole sarcasm on the internet thing failed in the last sentence of my previous post. If I didn't despise smileys I may have used one there, as I have in this post, but life goes on.

KVD wrote on 11/25/15 at 07:41:47:

Can I make a suggestion (or at least a remark) about the order? I don't have experience with double-elimination knock-out (I was once a virtual participant, but that's it), so I don't know if this is the usual order, but in this case it's possible that one person ends up playing three times in a row: the winner of the losers round 3 plays the losers semi-final immediately after that, and if he wins that, the actual final after that. In the first simulation, this would be the case for Martin (who looks destined to win the losers round 3, btw).
This is not necessarily a problem, of course, but it can be avoided by switching the losers round 3 and the semi finals (this also delays knowing one of the finalists).


Also, this might be a bit late to suggest, but I thought of another format that could be fun to try:
A random track is selected. One of the players left in the tournament is selected at random: he has to make a "bid" (a target time; at least the world record). Then, another player is selected at random (not the same player as before). He has two choices: He can make a new bid, which must be a higher time (by, say, at least 0"1), after which a new player is selected at random (someone else, but potentially the first player again) who gets the same choice. Or: He elects to accept the challenge, in which case he gets one try to beat (not tie) the last bid. If he fails, he's out; if he succeeds, the person who made the bid is out.
This could be very quick.

I can watch that Milhouse gif all day.

You may be right, but I still think it requires that all the players know the game to a pretty high level. And specifically the Time Trial component and its competition. Some of the participants are more focused on GP150cc and might not even be aware what range of times are routinely gotten per course in TT.

Yeah, quite a shame that PartyStar won't make it out, agreed. I can imagine you're doubting. Well, if at any point you change your mind and do want to come, just hop and the train and let me know.