Mario Kart MB - Time Trials TASes

Aglar

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Time Trials TASes
09/25/15 at 11:21:48

I've wanted to do TASes for this game for a long time. However the emulator for Gamecube isn't very user friendly when it comes to TASing at a higher level. That and the fact that my knowledge of the game wasn't the best have kept me away from this until just recently! Cheesy

I focus on flaps for now. 3laps in a TAS would be very repetitive with pretty much the exact same driving for all laps. Initially I planned on completing 4 flaps before making this post, but as the physics in this game isn't one of the simpler (duh), I decided that 2 were enough. Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6nCgz1N6lc - BP flap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OivZxjovxEc - PB flap
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You should know that they aren't very optimized in terms of what is possible with the use of TAS tools. Memory watch is way too tedious to use at such a level that I'd wanted so I stuck with only frame advance and save states. Also naturally, knowledge in this game is a huge part of being able to accomplish a solid time - with or without TAS. Therefore I'm quite sure there's some "kart logic" errors here and there.

Also, if you've watched the old TAS of the All Cup Tour you'll notice that you can't do build MTs as fast in TT. I think this is good as the fastest MTs here should be possible to perform in real time and the TAS gives a nice look of what it's like to continuously make frame perfect such.

If you wish for any specific flap to be TASed, let me know. Or... make one yourself Tongue

I'm sure many of the top players of this game would do wonders in a TAS almost immediately due their massive knowledge; I'd be more than happy to give some basic instructions for how to get started if you feel you need it.

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Gav Elite Offline Gettin' rekt fell 3426 times for marty Sheffield, UK Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #1 - 09/25/15 at 12:25:29 Sweet. So does that prove that a sub 8 BP flap is impossible?
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Chris Ninja Offline wao punched 5654 kiddies Germany, Pforzheim Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #2 - 09/25/15 at 12:40:42 Hell, that BP flap strat is pretty insane. I could see this done in a human run with the A Release MTs. Andreas, Richard, anyone?
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TheFrigz Ex Member	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #3 - 09/26/15 at 04:14:04 These are awesome!! Nice work!
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WillD King Offline TrackMania, F-Zero, and Mario Kart. 4853 days karting Virginia, USA Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #4 - 09/26/15 at 09:05:47 Very very cool. I've wanted to see more MKDD TASes for a while now
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Utter Legend Offline Arite Chief 6493 days karting Location: Unknown Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #5 - 09/26/15 at 12:43:39 Can't wait to see how these progress! Great start!
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Aglar n00b Offline I Love Mark 2.0! missed 3397 mts	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #6 - 09/27/15 at 01:11:25 Gav wrote on 09/25/15 at 12:25:29: Sweet. So does that prove that a sub 8 BP flap is impossible? Very much doubt it. Though the TAS alone isn't a proof of it, just that I wasn't able to If no one has a course suggestion think I'll try MB next, going from the simplest to most advanced seems like a good idea.
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TvL Legend Offline Long live the entropy! helped 7119 people Wassenaar (Netherlands) Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #7 - 09/27/15 at 01:46:01 Very nice! That's the most outrageous A-tech I've ever seen!
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Andreas Rudmarker Elite Offline mkdd pro! 6912 days karting Sweden Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #8 - 09/27/15 at 04:37:37 Chris wrote on 09/25/15 at 12:40:42: Hell, that BP flap strat is pretty insane. I could see this done in a human run with the A Release MTs. Andreas, Richard, anyone? I've been thinking about that strat for long.. if its human possible haha
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basebalkid Karter Offline I Love Mark 2.0! 3460 days karting California Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #9 - 09/28/15 at 20:32:26 You should do your favorite flap... SL
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@ndrew Legend Offline punched 6860 kiddies Sartell, Minnesota Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #10 - 09/30/15 at 17:50:30 Shit so it's really possible to mt that fast? I was not expecting a sub 21 PB flap....more like sub 21'5. And BP can go sub 8 seconds....unbelievable...
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Karlsson King Offline Swedish power! missed 7317 mts Tidaholm, Sweden Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #11 - 10/01/15 at 07:34:11 Hey, why did you forfeit in the mktournament kiddo?
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@ndrew Legend Offline 6860 holabolas Sartell, Minnesota Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #12 - 10/01/15 at 17:46:44 Because I'm a failure
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Etch sage Offline 3.0+1.0=CUTE 6964 time runner-up	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #13 - 10/01/15 at 18:02:24 Aglar wrote on 09/25/15 at 11:21:48: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OivZxjovxEc - PB flap Reminds me of mkds, it's faster to build mt's facing the same direction!
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Andreas Rudmarker Elite Offline mkdd pro! 6912 days karting Sweden Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #14 - 10/02/15 at 12:12:20 @ndrew wrote on 09/30/15 at 17:50:30: Shit so it's really possible to mt that fast? I was not expecting a sub 21 PB flap....more like sub 21'5. And BP can go sub 8 seconds....unbelievable... it is with computer, not by human hand
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Gav Elite Offline Gettin' rekt missed 3426 mts Sheffield, UK Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #15 - 10/02/15 at 12:22:04 I'd like to see you use that BP strat though Andreas.
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Jocelyn SITEK Karter Offline fell 3786 times for marty France Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #16 - 10/25/15 at 05:44:39 If you do the same tas for the DKM, you'll be my hero
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Terrence Fenner

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Re: Time Trials TASes
Reply #17 - 11/18/15 at 17:14:43

@ndrew wrote on 10/01/15 at 17:46:44:

Because I'm a failure Lips Sealed

You're definitely no failure at MKDD. Especially compared to my friends at the video game store I played with them on Mario Kart...esp MKDD Wink

Though a few are good lol...They are much better on MK8 (beasty on Smash Bros...which is their games (not mine...I'm 24/7 Karter representin'))

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Utter Legend Offline Arite Chief 6493 days karting Location: Unknown Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #18 - 12/15/15 at 04:52:29 Are any more of these being made? I would love to see more!
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Gav Elite Offline Gettin' rekt fell 3426 times for marty Sheffield, UK Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #19 - 12/15/15 at 04:59:39 Yes, come on Mr Aglar, pull your finger out!
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Aglar n00b Offline I Love Mark 2.0! fell 3397 times for marty	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #20 - 12/24/15 at 06:36:54 MB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAtTOGIDz44 *puts finger back in
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@ndrew Legend Offline punched 6860 kiddies Sartell, Minnesota Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #21 - 12/24/15 at 12:25:50 hot
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TvL Legend Offline Long live the entropy! 7119 sex records Wassenaar (Netherlands) Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #22 - 12/26/15 at 02:08:39 Really cool! I wonder: You use the second shroom to go over the hill. Is this something that you tested and found to be faster than staying on the road? If so, do you think there is a specific reason that this is faster in TAS or might it also be faster for humans?
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Chris Ninja Offline wao 5654 holabolas Germany, Pforzheim Gender:	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #23 - 12/26/15 at 02:35:48 ^I tried racing a ghost for this one, and I feel like the gain from this is so small that it's not really worth it in human runs
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Aglar n00b Offline I Love Mark 2.0! seen 3397 mj vids	Re: Time Trials TASes Reply #24 - 12/26/15 at 07:16:03 Going over the hill, with such an outcome as in the TAS, saves about 0.1 seconds. The odds of catching that small amount of air during a realtime run are minimalistic though. Especially the mushroom house bonk (which is needed to not get launched high afterwards) is extremely unlikely to happen that way, hehe.
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