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The end times could be very, very soon.
08/05/15 at 19:17:37
 
Please note before you decide to brush this off and not read any further that I do not intend this as a joke topic, this is something to be taken seriously as a warning to all of the world.

There are many signs today pointing to the end of the world that we know as coming very soon, perhaps later in this very year. I am talking of course about the final World War that will end the global civilization as we now know it, which is very, very likely to be accompanied by the Rapture of all of the world's Christians and children and ultimately, the return of Jesus Christ to our Earth.

The first and most obvious sign that we all see is the deal that the West had made with Iran concerning its nuclear program. Iranian leaders have said before that their goal is to wipe Israel off the map, and what better way to do that than with nuclear bombs? By lifting economic sanctions on Iran, the West has only succeeded in giving it more money to continue its nuclear program by moving it underground, while they finish a bomb with Israel's name on it behind the rest of the world's backs. Such an attack on Israel would almost certainly trigger Armageddon as God unleashes utter devastation upon the world for seven years as punishment to all those who chose not to stand by Israel or live in Christ. The purpose of the Rapture is to spare all of the innocent people from seven years of Hell on Earth. This will come as a complete surprise to the entire world, when absolutely nobody is expecting it, and those left behind will be left to wonder what happened to their disappeared loved ones until the reality dawns on them that it was indeed the Rapture and everyone left on Earth is about to face an almost decade-long apocalypse.

A second sign is the Tetrad of Blood Moons of 2014-15. Now, I have watched the film Four Blood Moons in theaters. It's based on a book, so if you never got the chance to see this great documentary film during its limited theatrical run, pick up this book or perhaps check it out from your local library. The Blood Moons are a special series of lunar eclipses in which the moon appears to become a red color. Several times throughout history, when Blood Moons coincided with Jewish holidays, Jews of the world faced serious threats but God always protected them through divine intervention. The last blood moon of this tetrad will be on September 25. This could very well be the day when Iran launches its first nuclear weapon at the Holy Land. We know that God will intervene somehow to protect the Jews, His chosen people. Exactly what will happen cannot be known, of course, at this present time. And if you happen to think that this may not mean the end of the world after all, then...

...there's also the Prophecy of the Popes. I don't know the exact details but a list was made given vague hints to the identities of all of the Popes who have presided would preside over the Roman Catholic Church. I think there were, like 266 popes on this list. And guess what, we are now on the very last one of the list... The Prophecy says that Rome and Vatican City will be destroyed in a cataclysm during the reign of the final pope. This is yet another sign that points to a worldwide apocalypse that will wipe out most, if not all, of the world that we recognize today.

There is also the fact that the Western world, including the U.S., is turning away from God. I won't go into all of the possibly controversial details, but there is even a movement to produce U.S. currency that lacks the words IN GOD WE TRUST that have been on our money since the beginning, and America's schools are doing everything from removing "Under God" from our Pledge of Allegiance to suspending students who mention God in their school. It is said that this country, and possibly much of the rest of the world, is the new Sodom/Gomorrah (which, according to some interpretations, were actually destroyed by something not unlike a nuclear explosion!). When the world turns away from God, God then destroys the world. It happened to Sodom and Gomorrah already, and other kingdoms who denied God met some unpleasant fates of their own.

When I put these signs together, it gives me much reason to believe that the end times are right around the corner. I'm thankful for every day that goes by now without a nuclear attack on Israel, though I have faith that Jesus will hopefully rescue me from the seven-year Tribulation via the Rapture of the Church, and I'll be in Heaven with all my loved ones as the world left behind falls completely apart.

Last week I watched a television program on H2 (History Channel 2) called Revelation: End of Days. It's a four-hour, two-part dramatization of just how the end times will play out, and I think everyone should watch it if they get a chance (if you don't get H2, or the show isn't going to be aired again, see if you can find it online-- it is WORTH the time!) The fact that it's on the History channel and not a religious channel... ought to tell you something. I don't necessarily agree, though, that a massive mega-storm is supposed to gather across the entire world as the Rapture occurs-- I've always been taught that the event will be a complete surprise with absolutely no advance warning. All of the world's children will vanish in the blink of an eye, and unborn babies will even be Raptured out of their mother's wombs. I was told that people who are being Raptured will hear a trumpet sound (though this could be merely Biblical symbolism) but all unbelieving adults will not be able to hear anything at all. If you do not get taken in the Rapture, you may see someone who does get taken vanish into thin air, instantaneously, leaving behind only their clothes/jewelry (which, in some accounts, then get neatly folded on the ground in the place where their wearer once stood). If you're on, say, a plane, and your pilot(s) gets Raptured and you don't, then, well too bad, hope somebody still left on the plane can somehow land it safely. The world left behind is not going to be pretty.

The Anti-Christ-- Satan incarnate-- will then rise to power. According to the TV special, the acting U.S. president (the president and vice-president were offed by a powerful infectious disease that escaped from a lab via supernatural means) is the Anti-Christ. But my aunt tells me that the Anti-Christ will come from the Middle East instead, because this region is currently Satan's headquarters. But it doesn't really matter where he comes from, it's what he will do (and what you do in response) that will matter and ultimately decide your eternal fate. The Anti-Christ will begin as being a charming, likable individual who makes peace with Israel and performs miracles. He will attempt to convince the entire world that he is Jesus. But halfway through the Tribulation, the Anti-Christ reneges on his peace agreement and that's when the world truly goes to hell (perhaps literally).

You may be required to receive a special "marking" announcing your loyalty to the Anti-Christ in order to buy or sell anything, and you might even be put in prison if you refuse to be marked. No matter what the penalty is for not taking the mark, I cannot stress this next part enough...

DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE ANTI-CHRIST, EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

If you accept the Anti-Christ's mark, THAT'S IT. You will never go to Heaven, you will never get to meet Jesus or any of your loved ones who are in Heaven. You will go to the Lake of Fire. For the rest of eternity. I repeat, DO NOT TAKE THE MARK!

Opinion varies on what exactly "The Mark" will be, it could be anything from a tattoo to a bar code to an implanted microchip. You will be required to get it to function in society but by doing so you are condemning yourself to the Lake of Fire, forever! To simply let yourself starve to death or spend even the rest of your earthly life in prison for renouncing loyalty to the Anti-Christ is infinitely better (literally) than being punished forever for taking his mark.

At the end of the Anti-Christ's seven-year reign on Earth, Jesus-- the real Messiah, not the evil imposter-- will return from the clouds along with an army consisting all of his followers, past and present, who will defeat the Anti-Christ and his evil army. Satan will be bound in chains for 1,000 years and there will be a millennium of world peace. It will be a new Heaven and a new Earth. At the end of this millennium, Satan will be unleashed on the world for one last time, but will soon be defeated once again where he will spend the rest of eternity in the Lake of Fire along with all those who chose to follow him (which includes everyone who took his mark during the Tribulation)

I know many of you will not take this message seriously, and I may get a lot of criticism, but I am just trying to give everybody here a big heads-up because it is quite possible that the End Times will be here within the year, the signs are present, and I do not want to see anyone here meet the worst of all possible fates, and that is to spend the rest of eternity in the excruciating pain of the Lake of Fire. Though we can't be certain, of course, that the End Times really will be so soon, I am prepared for its possibility, and everyone else needs to be, as well.
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Reply #1 - 08/05/15 at 23:04:09
 
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Reply #2 - 08/06/15 at 00:44:31
 
Harvey Kartel wrote on 08/05/15 at 19:17:37:
and unborn babies will even be Raptured out of their mother's wombs


Not trying to make fun of your message, but this line really made me chuckle. I have a vivid imagination.  Smiley
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Reply #3 - 08/06/15 at 01:59:09
 
I was about to write a response explaining why I'm not worried and why I think the signs that you put forward are very weak. I realized however that this would be a completely useless endeavor, since you're not going to change your mind anyway. The only thing I can't resist is quoting you:

Harvey Kartel wrote on 08/05/15 at 19:17:37:
(though this could be merely Biblical symbolism)

It is out of context of course, but I'm sure you catch my drift.


I suspect that you think that the End is going to happen sometime during your lifetime, as so many (now dead) people did before you. You may in fact be wishing for it, and are therefore hypersensitive to any signs that are remotely relatable to stuff in Revelation, even if it means adapting your interpretation of the text to fit the signs. Just reread your post; it's quite obvious in some places.

I offer my own prediction: I predict that the world is not going to end this year, and that the current pope will not be the last one. I also predict that the failure of your prediction to come true will not make you doubt the proximity of the End. In fact, I predict that at some later time you will again think that the End is coming within a short amount of time, and you will again be proved wrong.


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Jeff returning to the boards was the end times, and we survived that.
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Reply #6 - 08/06/15 at 02:31:10
 
I'll take that ironing board at 1:27 as a sign we should all just keep playing mario kart.

Harvey Kartel wrote on 08/05/15 at 19:17:37:
intervene somehow to protect the Jews


God has the best sense of humor, he killed it in Auschwitz!

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Reply #7 - 08/06/15 at 02:53:12
 
Damn, Nicholas has spewed enough bullshit to even get TvL to essentially say "yo, your post is flawed and I could take a shit on it, but you're hopeless/stubborn anyway". TvL, dude.  

And yeah, what the fuck is up with everyone thinking the End is gonna happen in their lifetime?  Lmao.  It's not gonna happen.
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Reply #9 - 08/06/15 at 03:40:19
 
I just reread my own post. It looks like I may come across as way more aggressive than I had intended.

Harvey, I certainly didn't mean to say "I'm not going to waste much time on an idiot who is not going to change his mind", even if I sometimes get tired of your Biblical lessons. It surprises me to find that my post could very easily be interpreted that way; I'm usually more careful about that.
I still have hopes for you, similar to the way you still seem to have for us non-believers. You wanted to give us a warning, I wanted to give you a warning as well. Try to recognize the traps that you are falling into. Don't be too preoccupied with the End, you may forget to live.
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Reply #10 - 08/06/15 at 04:04:56
 
To expand on that, this world is in many ways fucked up, and there may come a time where humanity destroys a significant portion of its own world as we know it. But all the stuff you've listed is just ghost stories, meant to intimidate people and get them to join religion through fear. It's pretty severe and disgusting manipulation.

If you want to know what's going on, go look around, be as skeptical as you can be and look for hard evidence. If there is none, dismiss it. If there is some, investigate further. Some random people claiming random stuff does not constitute as evidence.
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Before reading the thread I saw its title on the board's main page and I instantly thought Jeff was back.

Oh, and:

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^^ Nice pic Mario.  Smiley
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TvL wrote on 08/06/15 at 03:40:19:
I just reread my own post. It looks like I may come across as way more aggressive than I had intended.

Harvey, I certainly didn't mean to say "I'm not going to waste much time on an idiot who is not going to change his mind", even if I sometimes get tired of your Biblical lessons. It surprises me to find that my post could very easily be interpreted that way; I'm usually more careful about that.
I still have hopes for you, similar to the way you still seem to have for us non-believers. You wanted to give us a warning, I wanted to give you a warning as well. Try to recognize the traps that you are falling into. Don't be too preoccupied with the End, you may forget to live.



I think I kinda bent your perspective, I didn't mean to try to make it look like you were being rude or anything like that.  Sorry!
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^ No worries. It is true that your post made me reread mine, but I came to the conclusion myself that the tone was not as intended.
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Reply #15 - 08/06/15 at 10:55:19
 
The generation that saw the establishment of the State of Israel (in 1948) will live to see the second coming of Jesus, it is said.

My 91-year-old great aunt insists that the reason God is keeping her alive is so that she can witness the Rapture.
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Harvey Kartel wrote on 08/06/15 at 10:55:19:
The generation that saw the establishment of the State of Israel (in 1948) will live to see the second coming of Jesus, it is said.


Cite your source, please. And no, the history channel & your 91-yr-old great aunt don't count.  Grin
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Reply #17 - 08/06/15 at 15:29:46
 
Most smart people are too busy living life, creating memories and enjoying being productive than to care about fairy tales and prognostication. Some people have so little to do or think about that eagerly waiting for an event-that-isn't-going-to-happen occupies more than its fair share of their thoughts. Oh well. That's the choice they've made.
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Honestly, I really hope TvL is right and the Biblical End Times won't start this year (or the next) after all. I don't want to see it happen just yet; I'm excited about the 2015 NFL season as well as the 2016 Summer Olympic games. I can take comfort in the fact that if the Rapture does occur, I'll at least know I'll have a God and a Heaven to come home to. If, however, I live a hundred years and never see the Rapture, yet still witness a major worldwide war (especially the nuclear kind), then I might get a little worried that there might not be anywhere else to go after my life on Earth ends. (My death, and everyone else's, is surely closer than we all would like to think! I can find it hard to believe sometimes that I'm already quarter of a century closer to my demise than I was in kindergarten!) But I must keep my faith and always assume that some form of a God and a Heaven are out there, and feel it deep down inside that Jesus did indeed die on the cross so that I may be spared from an eternal oblivion, and go to this Heaven instead. I talked to my father about this today, and that was what he said: You either know that what is in the Bible is true, or you are just not a true believer and will not pass through the Pearly Gates of Heaven. (You know what the alternative is.)

And this is why I made this thread. If one of you non-believers dies suddenly tomorrow (because God and God alone knows when your time comes), then what's next for you? You don't want it to be an eternity of punishment, do you? Wouldn't you rather believe there's something good beyond your life in this world, rather than just complete "nothingness"? (without a God, what else would there be?)  Cool
And should you choose not to agree with my beliefs, I only want to warn you that should you find yourself in a world in which all of the world's children and devout Chrisitans are suddenly gone, and then you come under the rule of a powerful highly charismatic leader, who insists that he is your savior and that you take a permanent mark of loyalty to him, DON'T TAKE HIS MARK, it is the ultimate trap and you will face the ultimate punishment.
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Harvey Kartel wrote on 08/06/15 at 17:44:36:
And this is why I made this thread. If one of you non-believers dies suddenly tomorrow (because God and God alone knows when your time comes), then what's next for you? You don't want it to be an eternity of punishment, do you? Wouldn't you rather believe there's something good beyond your life in this world, rather than just complete "nothingness"? (without a God, what else would there be?)  Cool

See this is where it all goes wrong. I don't choose what to believe based on what I would like to be true. Sure, I'd like there to be a heaven, but the whole notion of a different plane where my non-existing soul would fly off to or whatever? It seems extremely unlikely there's an afterlife of any sort, and if there is, it's even more unlikely that it's eternal or even remotely like the christians think it is.

But to hammer my point home, I would rather be a billionaire, but I'm not a billionaire until I have 1 billion dollars or more. I'd like there to be an afterlife, but there's not even a hint that there might be one. You die, your brain stops, your consciousness stops existing. And even though that thought may be scary, I'm not going to trick myself into believing something ridiculous. I believe in truth.

I've always been well intended and treated everyone with respect and love around me, if there is a god and he sends me to hell because I didn't believe in something for which there was no evidence then fuck him, I don't want to be in his heaven. The mere thought that a creature of such omniscience would be interested in our petty lives and would actually get offended by the behaviour of a human is so ridiculous I don't even know where to begin. So I'll end with that.
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Reply #20 - 08/06/15 at 18:38:57
 
I hope there isn't an afterlife.  Heaven is eternal.  Eternal means it will last forever.  You'll get used to it and then you'll get bored.
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20-100 wrote on 08/06/15 at 18:04:44:
But to hammer my point home, I would rather be a billionaire, but I'm not a billionaire until I have 1 billion dollars or more.


So you'd rather be a billionaire even though it will only last for the several decades or so that you're alive on this Earth, but then you don't spend the rest of eternity in Heaven, where everyone can live like billionaires? The finite riches of this world are nothing compared to the infinite riches of God's world. Would you like to believe that you only have a century or so (if that much) of existence and then, for the rest of all time, no life, consciousness, or experiences of any kind? An eternity of complete nothingness, to me, is only a small step up from Hell (at least you're not being tortued for all eternity, but the complete lack of any sensations or thoughts wouldn't be much better) I'd at least like to have something else to do in 100 years, wouldn't you? (J-Cop: I don't think you'd ever be bored in Heaven.  Cool)

There have been several accounts of people who have had near-death experiences and briefly gone to Heaven, seeing loved ones again who had previous passed on. Some of these have even been made into movies. My dad mentioned one today called Heaven Is For Real, based on a true story, in which a young boy has an NDE and meets his older sister, who died before he was born; the boy's mother never told him anything about his dead sister but when the boy gets back from Heaven, he correctly describes his late big sister as having red hair. His mother knew she had red hair, of course, but the young boy could not have known, because his family kept her existence a secret from him. This proves that the NDE may not simply be a hallucination or dream caused by a dying human brain. Other people have also learned things during NDE's that they possibly could not have learned on Earth, or had out-of-body experiences in which they were able to read things that they had no way of reading from their hospital bed (even something written on the roof of the hospital building!)
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Reply #22 - 08/06/15 at 18:50:47
 
Why would lack of belief in the Christian God warrant eternal suffering, especially considering the lack of evidence and multiple other religions, all unprovable and unquantifiable, that have completely different ideologies and explanations for our existence? So what you are saying is, of all things that define a human being as good or bad, deserving of eternal pleasure or suffering, belief in God or lack thereof is the one dividing line? There are thousands of indigenous peoples all over the world who have not even been exposed to Christianity, and probably could not tell you who Jesus Christ is. Yet according to you, they are going to go to hell, simply because they have not been exposed to such concepts?  Huh

Come on Harvey. I know there is a bit more than elevator music going on between your ears. Try to think critically for yourself, instead of simply believing what others around you have taught you.  
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Reply #23 - 08/06/15 at 22:46:37
 
I'm sitting by a pool in Spain, sipping a beer at 9am trying to get a tan. Its glorious.

There must be a God if he allows morning beers without anyone raising an eyebrow.
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Reply #24 - 08/07/15 at 01:22:08
 
Are aliens going to hell since they haven't heard of jesus christ?
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