David Batke admitted to it. I was the one who first brought him up, but I forget why.

DwainiumB wrote on 04/26/15 at 13:07:53:


Pretty sure it was both. Anyways, it was all clear after he uploaded a fake rSL WR that apperantly was an old WR. He even faked videos for splits, such as his TF "BKS" which was recorded in a pathetically bad quality and it was mirrored.

As for Victor, as far as I can remember, one / a few of his MTglitch runs had quite some spam for wheelies while doing the entry for the glitch, or perhaps, the part 2. I'm not sure, nor do I bother looking through his runs as I'm not the best at noticing such stuff.

David Batke was already under severe suspicion due to many things, however, what he posted was not a joke, when it was found that he copied a former American Record, claimed it as his own, and even tried to take precautions to make it seem legitimate, he instantly removed the video, he had made no effort to prove himself beforehand nor did he ever try to defend himself, and according to some, he also admitted to cheating.

Not my words, by the way. From a friend.

http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382578208

I won't bother posting anymore. They weren't my words, a friend asked me if I could post it for him. I won't mention his name since I don't know if he wishes so. Btw, your pastebin, these are just quotes that can be easily made. Not saying it's fake but it's definitly not proof either. Pictures are better.

Done.

At least they actually count legit wrs (cough dan cough mg cough rr)

I still think WR page and PP should be completely seperate. I understand he cheated and he gets banned for that, it just hurts my head trying to comprehend that legit WRs aren't being counted

Mr. Ethan DK Summit guy is right ^^^^^^

Artur didn't admit anything, he admitted to cheating AFTER Cole busted him then asked to be put back on the site.

hahaae wrote on 04/29/15 at 11:21:02:


I was just asking for proof, that's all. No need to be like that. That also wasn't his only proof. Don't ignore the rest of the message. Anyway, I appreciate all the responses!

Let me answer that paragraph by paragraph:

No.

We wouldn't know exactly. I'm sure there are some cheaters that have come back under different names. Fortunately most of the older MK games don't have nearly the plethora of cheaters that newer games have had, and newer ones are online anyway. Regardless that doesn't mean they aren't a banned player. It just means they are evading the ban and we haven't caught them yet.

We have to take a no tolerance approach to cheaters, for the sake of the integrity of the charts. Luck wheelie codes are easily detectable, no one will ever get away with it anymore. It would also be pretty hard to cheat your way to the top of the leaderboards anymore, considering the tough proof standards we have in place for the top players. This site isn't a bunch of pushovers. You cheat once, you lose our trust and we ban you forever. If you don't like it well, that's not my problem, should have thought of that before cheating!

So not allowing cheaters to redeem themselves is preventing MKW from advancing? That is what you are saying and I can't agree with that. It's bad enough that people like them ruined the game to the point where videos are no longer legitimate hard proof for times. If anything they detrimented the community. You have to be pretty pathetic to lie about times you got in a video game anyway. Is that what peoples' lives come down to? That they are so meaningless they have to resort to lying about their times to get attention? If so I feel bad for those people.

DJT wrote on 05/01/15 at 07:15:18:


I agree with this.  

Trust can never be fully regained once it's been betrayed. You insist that these players have changed, but do you really know that? No, you don't. You never can know for sure. The fact that these players have cheated before means that they have the potential to do it again if they're not kept in line, and in this case, the only way to do that is to watch them 24/7. That's not just a hardship for them; it's also a lot of extra work for us. Why should we jump through hoops to make it possible for the least deserving of all players to compete?

Another thing I'd like to point out is that there is also a punitive aspect to the punishment. Our WR history still records the legitimate times of players who later cheated, but the players themselves are barred from our site, and any awards they earned have been stripped away from them. The consequences mirror the crime: If you try to get the rewards without doing the work, then from now on, you will receive no rewards for whatever work you do put in. There really couldn't be a more fitting punishment.

Finally, let me remind you that our treatment of cheaters now has an influence on whether or not others will cheat in the future. If the consequences are severe, people will be more likely to think twice before cheating; there will always be a few who are foolish enough to try cheating anyway, but there will not be as many of them. However, if we make it known that we sometimes forgive cheating, people won't be nearly as afraid of getting caught. Why wouldn't you try to cheat if getting caught just meant that you could take a few years off to practice and rejoin the community later once you'd honed your skills enough to get WR's legitimately?

yoshikecleon wrote on 05/01/15 at 08:57:11:

And I'm sure your agreement has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that you'd like a second chance yourself, right?