VAJ wrote on 11/24/15 at 01:00:08:


To answer your question VAJ, I simply believe that if you currently possess 31/32 WR's (97% of the total), you can also get the 32nd one. Especially as all he needs is a tie, which is always possible.

Apparently overall skill in MK64 is very translatable to individual tracks...in fact to such an extent even that track specialists are consistently overpowered by the #1 player (we have seen this with MJ in the past as well). Though MMF flap is probably a more specialistic chart than most (requiring specific mini strats, etc.), it's probably not unique enough to really stand the test of time, IF that is all that Matthias still has to grind for.

I predict MR WILL beat it within a month (maybe less than 2 weeks) IF he is not forced to play somewhere else.

I think a perhaps more interesting question is how MR can be so dominant...
Clearly, in MK64 the MT and cornering mechanics are much more important than very intimate track knowledge achieved through extensive grinding. Probably moreso than SMK, where no one got close to full domination in modern times and some tracks feel very, very different. KB1 has nothing to do with RR for example. I say this because I'm confident that MR isn't close to equalling the amount of input vs the top track specialist on every track (Troy on CM, DB on FS, etc). Either that or the MK64 community has no truly obsessed track specialists (like Sami on MC1 in SMK).

On the other hand, if this was a game as popular as LoL and thousands of Koreans played it on a professional basis, MR would probably have 0 WR's and I would guess that there'd be very few players having even more than 2 WR's total. So in a sense his dominance does also reflect the level of the competition. Of course this applies to every kart, not just MK64.
I'm not saying that the level is not high currently, but when someone is so close to full domination, it stands to reason that the overall level could be quite a bit higher still.

Then there is a 3rd point of view possible, by simply stating that MR is a complete MK64 prodigy and his skill ceiling is simply so much higher than that of anyone else, that he can beat the entire field on all tracks, no matter what.

Reality is probably a mix of all these 3 points of view, but to what extents?  

I would like to turn the situation around though...you can take confidence from the mere fact that he has 32 WR's to maintain, whereas you can limit yourself to 1. Surely he's not 32 times more capable, so if you're stubborn enough on your track of choice you should naturally prevail.

From a mental perspective, that's best done by completely ignoring short term dynamics. As in, don't feel discouraged that he reclaims your record, rather realize that evidently there is a need to specialize your track more and more. In the long term, if you persist, eventually you will reach a level where it will be bordering on the impossible for anyone to equal your efforts whilst also still having to focus on other tracks at the same time.

^ I don't have that much money though

You just have to believe in it, otherwise no WR for you

A lot of interresting read in here now, no doubt about that, it should be taken somewhere else imho.

Meaks wrote on 11/24/15 at 05:50:00:

Clearly provocation against VAJ!  

KVD, the thing is that I've been the only person consistently committed to stopping 32/32. I've definitely impeded my overall progress by dedicating myself to pushing FS and MR.  The situation you are describing WAS the situation at FS flap. I grinded that a lot, got a huge lead there, made him discouraged, and then my information was given away. We're still picking up the pieces from that incident and I've been grinding FS flap more yet but haven't hit the run.

The other thing about what you said is that Matthias ONLY needs to play tracks that people beat him at. Again, it definitely slows down my overall progress to only kart one track, but for Matthias he can lis in waiting.

I don't believe MMF flap is the strongest WR. The third shroom and ending is not great. TJL has more knowledge on the flap and he hasn't given it to Matthias. That's how he still has the WR.

I mean, Beck is not going after WRs that he could get right now specifically because he wants to keep pushing his overall progress. Right now that's definitely carried him very far, although who knows if I'd have been able to progress as much as he has had I taken the same approach.

I didn't even realize that this wasn't the A1A thread   yeah, I agree this conversation should be moved.

I think I'm the one who most agrees with you that it would be a humiliation of the rest of the community if Matthias got all the WRs.

Zurreco wrote on 11/24/15 at 07:26:54:


Sorry Meaks can't pay me that much!! otherwise you can pay me now already since he hasn't have this record!! hehe  

for all of you guys who don't know this track!! try to help yourself finding a track where MR can't get!!! this is the only one he has never had and wont for a good reason witch is TJL!! otherwise from the very first begging saying he might not is just a illusion but a fact we should not fight against and A1a never excistsl!! TJL is the best MMFmer we have even his 3laps shows 2 huge mistakes on the fence hits his flap is the most perfect by far!! and he is lol the hardest by saying you loosers VAj is right!!  

Side note: I wont even take a nikkel from someone who doesn't believe my DKJP and acts like i am a lier!!  

KVD wrote on 11/24/15 at 06:50:16:


are you that serious??? KVD I read your reply and untherstand what you mean to tell! but now this!
I invest in ktb flap so much time since it was my most favo trqack ever i went to play it nonstop to keep MR ahead and i ws always able to get it to work!

But he had an level that just a couple can face here current top 6!
Witch MJ's seems to be the best!! and DB as well!

I do believe that DB can get a WR that even MR will need time for but he always made it!! to tie or beat! And theoreticlly it is always possible to get a tie out of the game!

But you don't have to ignore someones effort that puts in hours and hours like he didn't try to invest so much of time into a track and come up with sometin even better then human can get!

The best examples for these are VAJ YV sc flap WR opener 11.10* and TJL's 27.82 I believe we both spend like over more then a half a year beofre thse MF's pops up! and for MMF I am sure i at least tryed hard to get back the WR when he untied 91. now knowing MAtthias usually jumps up a WR in like couple hourse or at least 4 session in reach I am sure he passed the time barrie by far to even get close here!!!

So if you say it is a bad bet!! what do you say about 50 euro's??? betwen us!!! I know this track and know what matthias can do!! i just wasn't expecting what TJL has done here!! thats the fun!! and yes I also believe that saomeone who say its a 1 in a million hit! knelge can't face the limit here!!

SO i bet you 50 euro's for this 2 weeks you talk about he wont get it!!? Tell me if your in!! I w

Would even bet you 50 for an extra 5 months from now he wont get it!!  

Greg are you crazy!!????

Last KVD:

I do believe and have the mentelity i can take DK flap, MMf down and beat MR. the perfect run has never came yet!! and probably wont thats the whole storie!!

Its just i am not good enough to push myself for 3laps! consistency is in my way!!

cutz22 wrote on 11/24/15 at 11:52:12:


Agree, this guy just makes himself look like a mug over and over again. It's funny. He can't put his money where his mouth is either so he needs to STFU.    

2'04"32 KD 3lap


.01 lol

abney317 wrote on 11/25/15 at 00:23:54: