Seems to me that the Japanese player hops left-right for five hops, then continues hopping neutral. I'm still not really sure myself when five left-right hops are faster. On some instances, it way faster than four hops (rTTC and rRRy for example), but other times you lose like .5 trying to do it, even if the track is straight. One of the most retarded techniques I've ever seen in a MK game.

Getting in the hops as quickly as possible is really the only advice I can give. Hoping someone better can give a definitive answer.

This is what I understood when I played that game :

During the boost do not neutral hop, try to keep your line using only right and left hops (it can be 2 right hops in a row, just be sure to always hold a direction when you hop).

When the boost is over, only do neutral hops, otherwise you'll just end up losing time.

Last things (even if obvious), you want to reduce contact with the road as much as possible, which means the quickest you hop after landing, the fastest you'll go. I realized this was especially true with the neutral hops after the boost, if you time them badly (ie you don't execute one of them fast enough) they won't be effective at all.

One comment though: I have absolutely no idea for how long you can neutral hop after the boost effect without losing time.

This may be incorrect, but so far I can't understand the tech better.

I'm having the exact same problem on rDKJ lol (not being able to make the hops really quick), I always seem to have a bit more air/cooldown time in between the hops when I try them compared to other ghosts I've seen on the Top 10. The only advice I could give is to try and perfect the timing for them I guess (i.e. hop the very moment you touch the ground).

Antistar wrote on 06/09/14 at 14:08:35:

10/10

As the mini turbo wears off, on your final hop of the "set" make sure you don't press a direction on its own. That is, press R then the direction the air and then let go. That way when you land you can neutral hop and maintain the boost speed somewhat.

^ It shouldn't matter as long as the 2nd hop is while the MT is still in play. Vids would help.

Ridley_ wrote on 06/09/14 at 14:22:18:





ALAKTORN wrote on 06/09/14 at 16:40:13:


^It's already pissing me off how complicated it is.

"Yeah man just gotta do the left-right-left-left-left-left-neutral-neutral-left-right hop 5 times holding the analog stick at a 35 degree angle (only works on Gamepad on classic controller nobody knows why lel I LOVE THIS GAME IT'S GOT TECHS"

Roadkill I'm actually attempting to provide answers. If you maintain a shitty attitude then sure you're going to get shitty results.

I'll see if I can make a vid on my phone or something at some point.

It's pretty area specific. The general rule is that it works uphill and not downhill, but there are certain exceptions to this (doesn't work on MKS downhill in anti-gravity, but does on SGF downhill bridge in anti-gravity). It's best to just learn where it does and doesn't work from the WR videos. If it's a place that specifically doesn't work then you'll notice immediately, it'll kill your speed (Electrodome start/finish).

Timothy wrote on 06/10/14 at 02:26:21:

you don’t understand… try racing the Jap, try racing me, tell me your results…

if I do it the Jap’s way, I lose all my speed when the SMT is over, if I do it my way, I lose speed during the SMT, but I keep it after the SMT runs out

the Jap keeps his max speed both while SMTing and after it runs out, I always lose time either while boosting or after it runs out depending on what hop strategy I use, even copying his I just lose all of my speed when the SMT boost runs out

actually try racing against the ghosts, if you get positive results I’ll try again what you’re saying for the 100th time

Timothy wrote on 06/10/14 at 07:35:30:

the funny thing is that you don’t understand ._.''

I can do it– the problem is MY SPEED WHEN DOING IT doesn’t match the Jap’s speed

can you play against the ghosts yourself or is that too hard?

but anyway yes, I know that on the first bridge my hop tech is stronger than the Jap, it’s just at the last turn that I don’t understand it, no matter how I do it

I'm shit at this course so I can't keep up enough to test vs you guys, maybe I'll get to that stage at some point... Only other thing I can think of is it being something to do with releasing the MT while still on the "muddy" part as opposed to the "sandy" edge.