Why would you need acceleration in a time trial? You're not slowing down anywhere...

SuperSkeetBro wrote on 06/02/14 at 21:38:31:

all of that isn’t affected by acceleration, it’s affected by speed

acceleration is only starting from a dead start without a boost, only useful in Wi-Fi

weight is probably just as much irrelevant for TTs, but maybe it gives better low tricks or stuff like that, who knows

the Prima Guide shows that the accel gliders have an MT boost though, so maybe they’re better

I was also taking an interest in this as well...  The World Records vary greatly on Glider selection.  It might depend on the track being played.  The acceleration Gliders have a mini-turbo boost, and the other Gliders are faster in the air.  Does anybody else know why only few World Records are set with the Gold Standard/Sports Coupe?  Is this a coincidence?  The only change in Kart Bodies is the size.  Maybe time will tell?  

People use Mach 8 mainly because it's wider and has a larger hit-box for getting coins

Honestly, I don't think glider selection matters much. At this stage in the game, the differences in records are large enough that the miniscule differences in glider do not come in to play.

In MK7 for example, which has been out for 2.5 years, glider choice is STILL widely variable. So overall, I doubt that glider choice is ever going to be a defining part of a world record.

I think that like in MK7, we’ll never know the difference gliders make, unless TAS comes along

I’ve played around with both gliders on DP3 and can see no difference

and actually I see no difference in the hitboxes of the fast karts either, I just use Morton + Mach 8 because they’re the smallest possible and I can see the road clearly

ALAKTORN wrote on 06/04/14 at 04:33:06:


Isn't Mii (heavy) even smaller than Morton ?
Thanks for sharing the tip about taking the smallest possible, it's true it can make TTing more comfortable.

Yeah, the Mach 8 stays close to the ground.  In terms of unlocking the Gold Glider... we know that we need 10000 coins.  What happens if you play with 4 neighbors on Split-Screen...?  Do all of these combined Players help you collect coins much faster... Or is it just Player 1 that actually matters?  Also, is there a Coin collecting difference when playing in 4-Player Grand Prix, or 4-Player Versus?  For example, maybe 4-Player Versus is useless when collecting coins, even for Player 1?  I haven't tested any of this.  Time Trials collects coins, unlike MK7, which is good.  It isn't fair how Players in this game cannot check their Coin total, via Records screen, etc.

Interesting, can anyone confirm for Versus?

ALAKTORN wrote on 06/04/14 at 04:33:06:

The 4 fast karts all have different hitboxes.

I think for horizontal hitboxes it's:
Mach 8 > Circuit Special > Sports Coupe > Gold Standard
Bowser = Morton = Mii = Wario
Slick = Cyber Slick

To prove that the 4 karts have different hitboxes, I played Cloudtop Cruise with each Kart + Wario + Slick + Wario Wing. All I did was hold A (getting a burnout start), and each kart takes a completely different path due to hitting walls differently.

With Gold Standard and Sports Coupe you can finish the race if you hold right for 2 lakitu sequences near the end, so this let me test the characters / tires.

I got a time of 4:51.413 with all these combos:
Wario / Gold Standard / Cyber Slick / Wario Wing
Wario / Gold Standard / Slick / Wario Wing
Wario / Gold Standard / Cyber Slick / Super Glider
Bowser / Gold Standard / Cyber Slick / Wario Wing
Mii / Gold Standard / Cyber Slick / Wario Wing

And a time of 2:12.913 with these:
Wario / Sports Coupe / Slick / Wario Wing
Morton / Sports Coupe / Slick / Wario Wing

I do think there are optimal karts for each track based on whether you need a larger hitbox for coins, or a smaller one for corners. But characters and tires seem to be equal (unless Bowser has a larger vertical hitbox for air coins?).

Cole wrote on 06/04/14 at 12:53:34:


Oh cool, this answers my Q's.