Yes, you've got it, it's the MT that propels you forward. That's another thing people need to realise, that you can charge MTs in the air. There are a few places where it's used.

How do the first two boost pads on TH work? I lose *at least* half a second on the WR every lap, and I've tried every single thing I could think of.

^ I TT'd rMC for a couple hours one night and I don't really understand the anti-gravity section myself. I'm really bad at hop teching there. I want a low 1:26 but I need some tips.

ρf☆Pαμl wrote on 06/18/14 at 23:31:30:


I'm practically the opposite. I completely suck at Sections 1 and 2 but my Section 3s were WR level at one point. I'm no Alex94 at the track, but I'll try to help. Are you talking about the very first turn after
the shroom entering the section? Or ones after that? If it's the first turn, you might be shrooming too early into the section and losing a ton of time. On other turns, you must not be pulling your drift in as quick as possible after hop teching between them. Try racing a 1:19 ghost or find one with a decently strong Sec 3 (27.5). Good luck.

Harmonia wrote on 06/18/14 at 19:54:20:


The antigrav section of rMC can somewhat make or break the lap.  My best splits are 26.1xx (best time 26.7xx) so I have some idea but I'm definitely not an expert, but these are my thoughts

I don't quite get the jump on to the antigrav section.  Sometimes I get a 'flyer' off the jump and keep up with Cole's ghost, sometimes not.  I'm not exactly sure why the technique sometimes work and sometimes doesn't but if you keep experimenting with all those hops and try and mimic Cole's ghost you might get an idea.  Doing a left or right hop just before you hit the jump (I think Cole always does this) seems to help but I've also got the 'flyer' sometimes with neutral hops..

For the downhill section you have to maintain the boost speed all the way to the jump off the downhill section.  You should be able to feel yourself slow down just before the jump when you get it wrong.  
I think hitting the middle of the boost pad rather than the back edge is important.  Also try and hop like Cole if you can.  L-R-L-R (or R-L-R-L I can't remember)) and then a couple of directional hops to pick up a coin.  I'm not sure if hopping on to the middle of the boost pad is what is important or if it's the hops but I have somewhat got the hang of this bit  

Guess I don't understand it that well either  

Thx for the help. I have Mach 8 and cyber slicks now, it seems like I get more 27 sec 1s with them. I still drive against the
1 20 5 since its sec 1 and 2 are weak. The hops are my problem. I risk way more now and it seems to work.

How much of a speed boost does one get with coins?

With 1 coin = +? speed
With 5 coins= +? speed
With 10 coins = +? speed

You could be right. It does give a decent boost, so it seems like 10-20% boost.

Exentryk wrote on 06/19/14 at 21:24:16:

Very rough estimate, but one extra coin makes you gain around 0"1-0"15 for 30 seconds of racing.

The way I tested it was to reach max speed by a certain point, begin a timer, and then stop the timer when I reached another end point (all taking place on a straightaway with no input other than accelerate). Repeat with different amounts of coins. I'll probably retry this more extensively just to satiate my curiosity.

You may be right in that it's closer to 3-5%, but if you're getting that number straight from (.1/30)*10 and (.15/30)*10 I don't think that's completely accurate. Might be nitpicky but *shrug*

I think that a max increase in speed would only be able to be calculated that way if you are on a straightaway for the whole course. But there are many turns and what not that are limit how fast you go around them, and perhaps causes the benefit of the coins to be diminished somewhat...

I could be wrong abut that's my gut feeling. You are never actually going to be on a pure straightaway forever, so it hardly matters but just for accuracy's sake.

If someone races a course perfectly though, I'm sure the % speed increase is more accurate than if you raced a course non-perfectly... Just not sure if those numbers are the correct ones.

The new WR on rDKJ is using hops on the anti-gravity section. How can I actually do them without stuck/slowdown at a certain point?

Zuba wrote on 06/20/14 at 07:29:45:


Check out Timothy's thread, he goes over a lot of stuff like that.  
If it's a downhill section you need to start drifting a little bit between hops

What is the best controller to use?(what do the WRS use)