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Reply #625 - 06/11/14 at 14:29:19
 
Cole wrote on 06/11/14 at 12:47:33:
It's a balance between "having the fairest competition possible" and "having the most accurate set of WRs possible".

I don't want 1:48.0xx on MC to be shown as WR on the site. It's just not the true WR. If I played MC today and got 1:47.9xx I wouldn't feel as if I got the WR.
But I also see why people want fair competition and don't want to tolerate these hoarded times.

At the moment I don't feel like hoarding is a big enough problem to start deleting WRs. But if it continues to be a problem then I will definitely consider deleting times / putting a strict policy in place.

I think Blake and Thurmos will upload their times soon. They are probably just waiting until they get better runs.


Maybe players who don't hoard should start targeting these hoarded WRs Tongue


How do you know if every WR holder is all hoarding a .1xx improvement?  It sounds ridiculous, but you simply don't know it exists until it's submitted - even if it's from a trusted player like Blake or NOBUO.  Theoretically, there could be 30 hoarded WR's right now, but we don't know it.  Thus, it's impossible to ever "feel for sure" that you have a WR like you said.  It really just makes it all a LOT easier and a lot fairer if everyone submits their times - it's not rocket science!
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Reply #626 - 06/11/14 at 15:04:38
 
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around how exactly this discussion of hoarding came about.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but not submitting a WR to the leaderboards until a satisfactory time is achieved was done quite often in MKWii, and was even encouraged by some to prevent hassle for the WR recorders -- so that they wouldn't have to record minuscule improvements.

An example of this would be my 1'47"566 and 1'47"200 times.  I had no intent to stop playing after improving to 1'47"566, so why submit the time?  I continued the TT session, and less than an hour later, improved to 1'47"200.  And no, that time was not submitted either, because I knew I'd improve shortly thereafter, which I did early this morning:


Improved to 1'47"016 (WR for a few hours) -> http://imgur.com/sITh6hO

Then improved to 1'46"883 (WR for less than an hour) -> http://imgur.com/jTmqoqL

And then improved to 1'46"733 (current WR) -> http://imgur.com/ntLro4T  . . .which I planned to submit this evening if I couldn't manage to improve it.


It makes absolutely zero sense to me how any of that can be construed as "hoarding" and especially how it can spark a discussion of whether or not the aforementioned times should even be counted Undecided


(On the contrary, MK8 WRs can't be "counted" as one pleases [or] determined by bias.  The correct word in this instance would be SR; Site Record)
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Reply #627 - 06/11/14 at 15:11:13
 
^you’re aware that taking a picture takes more time and effort than uploading the time to the Nintendo leaderboards, right?

you literally only have to press a “yes” and then “ok” on the screen, or something similar
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Reply #628 - 06/11/14 at 15:12:41
 
Blake wrote on 06/11/14 at 15:04:38:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but not submitting a WR to the leaderboards until a satisfactory time is achieved was done quite often in MKWii, and was even encouraged by some to prevent hassle for the WR recorders -- so that they wouldn't have to record minuscule improvements.

To prevent the miniscule improvement thing you can quickly mention in your posts here if you're done or not on a specific track, I've repeated that several times but no one besides Shaun/Cole/Ray fucking cares so it makes it more annoying to plan ahead especially with all those Japanese players that are not contactable on the other side.
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Reply #629 - 06/11/14 at 15:14:56
 
@Blake: Waiting until you're done with your play session is fine.

But posting a time and not uploading ghost "because yawn"?
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Reply #630 - 06/11/14 at 15:15:07
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 06/11/14 at 15:11:13:
^you’re aware that taking a picture takes more time and effort than uploading the time to the Nintendo leaderboards, right?


I said there was no point in submitting a time that I'd beat soon.  Mentioned nothing about time efficiency (even though snapping a photo of the result and clicking "Retry" takes less than 5 seconds. . .)
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Reply #631 - 06/11/14 at 15:18:59
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 06/11/14 at 15:11:13:
^you’re aware that taking a picture takes more time and effort than uploading the time to the Nintendo leaderboards, right?

you literally only have to press a “yes” and then “ok” on the screen, or something similar



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Does not appear in the top 10

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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:
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Reply #632 - 06/11/14 at 15:22:33
 
^I’m not sure what you’re trying to say

when I got the WR I tried multiple times to upload it, but it kept giving me an error

I then turned off the WU to not turn it on again since, and I won’t turn it on JUST to upload the WR, I will next time I play
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Reply #633 - 06/11/14 at 15:30:11
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 06/11/14 at 15:22:33:
^I’m not sure what you’re trying to say

when I got the WR I tried multiple times to upload it, but it kept giving me an error

I then turned off the WU to not turn it on again since, and I won’t turn it on JUST to upload the WR, I will next time I play


You really don't get it?


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RaminGER wrote on 08/14/09 at 12:01:14:
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Reply #634 - 06/11/14 at 15:31:26
 
…are you stupid? connection problems are rare
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Reply #635 - 06/11/14 at 15:35:34
 
There is no need for hostility, I am just pointing out a minor inconsistency for humorous purposes.
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Reply #636 - 06/11/14 at 15:39:52
 
rRRd: •Alex94• improved again to 1:20.251
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Reply #637 - 06/11/14 at 15:40:08
 
rWS 1'53"584 by ひの
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Reply #638 - 06/11/14 at 16:17:05
 
As far as I am concerned, a WR becomes official and legitimate once it is shown through a Miiverse screenshot, whether the ghost itself is sent to the charts or not is irrelevant at this point of time, the time exists and is publicly shown to the world. But expect the disrespect of the community if you're purposefully hoarding.

Now when Miiverse screenshots will be able to be manipulated and faked eventually, ghosts and/or videos will become mandatory. I also expect video proof requirements coming for Site Records in the future regardless of what happens, for the sake of examplifying trustworthiness and fair competitiviness from our community.
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Reply #639 - 06/11/14 at 17:39:23
 
BDD 1'52"283 by Alexony

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Reply #640 - 06/11/14 at 18:03:35
 
1:58.798 Ed

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huge cut  Smiley lap 3 made the run

I definitely won't be trying to improve this for a while. Time to focus on other tracks.
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Reply #641 - 06/11/14 at 18:09:11
 
Blake wrote on 06/11/14 at 15:04:38:
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I'm aware your hoarding has different intentions than, for example, Thurmos', so sorry if you thought the part of my post where I mentioned you guys didn't mean that.

Anyway, uploading a time only takes a few seconds and there are no downsides to it, so I think it would be better to always do it if you get a WR to avoid having such situations in the future. Wink
I mean, I understand you only want to retry immediately (I admittedly didn't upload two of my MKS times today for the same reason and I'll try not to repeat the same mistake if I get any other top 10s), but fortunately it only takes a few more seconds before you can get back to TTing.
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Reply #642 - 06/11/14 at 18:40:03
 
Why's that a big deal if in the end he posts the times anyway? Tongue
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Reply #643 - 06/11/14 at 20:20:02
 
Blake wrote on 06/11/14 at 15:04:38:
An example of this would be my 1'47"566 and 1'47"200 times.  I had no intent to stop playing after improving to 1'47"566, so why submit the time?  I continued the TT session, and less than an hour later, improved to 1'47"200.  And no, that time was not submitted either, because I knew I'd improve shortly thereafter, which I did early this morning:

Improved to 1'47"016 (WR for a few hours) -> http://imgur.com/sITh6hO

Then improved to 1'46"883 (WR for less than an hour) -> http://imgur.com/jTmqoqL

And then improved to 1'46"733 (current WR) -> http://imgur.com/ntLro4T  . . .which I planned to submit this evening if I couldn't manage to improve it.


It makes absolutely zero sense to me how any of that can be construed as "hoarding" and especially how it can spark a discussion of whether or not the aforementioned times should even be counted Undecided

You set the 1:47.200 time on Sunday. It's been 4 days since then. During which you could've sent the time to Nintendo's leaderboards. I understand not sending in a time for a day, but 4 days while still in the first few weeks of the game is definitely a long time. Which is probably why it was construed as hoarding.
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Reply #644 - 06/11/14 at 20:42:40
 
rDKJ - 2:04.807 (42.818/41.229/40.760)

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Reply #645 - 06/11/14 at 22:40:01
 
rTT 1:44.639 by QoN
rWS 1:53.148 by ひの

Added these and Ray's times.
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Reply #646 - 06/12/14 at 00:31:40
 
BDD - 1:52.118 by つられうさぎ

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Reply #647 - 06/12/14 at 03:35:27
 
rGV 1:57.696 by いたくら
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Reply #648 - 06/12/14 at 03:41:10
 
Marc474R wrote on 06/11/14 at 18:40:03:
Why's that a big deal if in the end he posts the times anyway? Tongue


The discussion that originated wasn't about hoarding times (we know the times in question), but rather, about possibly or willingly hoarding strats
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Reply #649 - 06/12/14 at 07:57:36
 
rMMM 1'25"639 by Rogue

rGV 1'57"544 by いたくら
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