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05/12/14 at 07:21:42
 
Some of the Mario Kart 7 players might remember this now old project of mine from 2011 :

http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1317842958

The basic concept was to record, gather, archive and upload the best time trial records of MK7 in one single place. But the problem at the time was that we made plans for the YT channel based on assumptions when we didn't know much about what the game would actually offer.

Of course, as it turned out the final game didn't have any leaderboards nor option to share select ghosts online (nevermind the technical difficulties of recording 3DS footage in the first place), the whole thing quickly became a fiasco.


But now for this console game, I believe we have enough evidence at this point of time to actually be able to successfully capture the best times in the world, be it through the worldwide tops, or friend sharing. So we're trying this another time again !

https://www.youtube.com/user/MK8Records (nothing to see there yet, just showing I'm serious about this)

We're now recruiting video recorders following as many of those criteria as possible :

- Ability to provide and upload quickly direct-feed high-quality footage (720p / 1080p)
- Preferably available from day one release and for most of the days (even if only a couple hours per day)
- Must be trusted by the overall karting community, at least if you're going to be one of the main uploaders. We can't risk having anyone suddently hijacking the channel and lose dozens of videos forever (although I hope we can keep back-up files somewhere).

Currently we have some frenchies willing to help and record some footage when the time comes, so we're mostly looking for at least an American recorder and an Australian recorder, maybe a Japanese recorder if possible. But if you're an European recorder that's great too ! If a lot of people are on board, it will make it easier for everyone to have updated videos at the disposal of the players, as long as we're organized.

Hope you can help making this a success for the time trial community this time Smiley
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Reply #1 - 05/12/14 at 08:00:19
 
I'm willing to take part in this; but I can also record with my El Gato.
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Reply #2 - 05/13/14 at 09:57:28
 
I just subscribe the MK8 Records page Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #3 - 05/16/14 at 08:59:33
 
I really hope the game has true Top 10s so that all this becomes possible.
Please give your suggestions about the template. Once we start recording it will be too late to change.
I went through the MK7 thread about the aborted MK7Records channel to gather some insights:



           TITLE:

Despite the fact that YouTube allows up to 100 characters in video titles, it will cut off the title on multiple places when it's too long, including video suggestions/ video endscreen/ video list on channel page/ interface on smartphones, consoles and other devices.
Many uploaders used to put the game's abbreviation between brackets right at the beginning but because of the aforementioned reason I think it's not necessary.





Title is very important for search engine optimization purposes and [MK8] is not ideal in that case as much more people will be typing “mario kart 8” and “world record” than “mk8” and “wr”. If MK8Records eventually hosts videos that are not World Records, it may be better to put it before Mario Kart 8 so that it's still a bit visible. Here are some suggestions (the 2 first ones seem better imo):

3DS Piranha Plant Slide - X:XX.XXX - MMMMMMMMMM (Mario Kart 8 World Record)

3DS Piranha Plant Slide - X:XX.XXX - MMMMMMMMMM (World Record Mario Kart 8)

X:XX.XXX - MMMMMMMMMM - 3DS Piranha Plant Slide (World Record Mario Kart 8)

X:XX.XXX - 3DS Piranha Plant Slide - MMMMMMMMMM (World Record Mario Kart 8)





           DESCRIPTION:

By default YouTube will only show the 5 first lines so the most important information must be located there; the rest will be visible upon clicking “Show more”.



- Date when the WR was set, date when the WR was beaten, duration (not sure if in days like on Cole's website, or in years+months+days)
- Character/vehicle combination (even if visible in the video, it's still useful for performing searches)
- Lap times (same reason as above)

- Comment from MK8Records that gives the player's nickname, the other nicknames he may be known for (in case the player used a different name like THEGADTIME), his nationality, notable facts

- Player's comment on his run
stelzig wrote on 10/23/11 at 15:48:37:
If the player has some interesting comment worth reading. Let him write that comment like everyone writes comments to videos. If it is very special/interesting then perhaps it could be added to the description. But we don't need to have a dedicated comment sections in the video description, trying to get players comments on every record they make.


- Link to his profile on the MK8 Players' Page (if no profile: link to the MK8 Players' Page index http://www.mariokart64.com/mk8/ ?)
- Link to the Miiverse comment posted by the player (if no comment: link to his Miiverse profile)
- Link to his profile on mkwrs.com
- Other links to the player's accounts (YouTube channel, twitter account, profile on German/French/Japanese TT website…)

- Info about the video (background music, person who recorded)

- Previous WR time/player/date/video link


A few players put their shrooms/coin counter per lap (ex. 1-1-1 / 7-1-0) but I am not sure if it is useful.
Some people complained about the use of special characters but I believe a mere bullet here or an arrow there can only improve readability of the information. Please give your opinion on what you feel about this.
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Reply #4 - 05/16/14 at 10:02:02
 
could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it
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Reply #5 - 05/16/14 at 11:55:53
 
Can't you put Mario Kart 8 in the tags section? And leave the abbreviation. Since the search engine checks tags too. Having the game abbreviation at the beginning is useful for players who don't already know about the channel.
Though it depends on where you want to put the game name. Abbreviation if at front. Full text if at end.
But either way, you'll probably want to include the other choice in the tags for the video.
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Reply #6 - 05/16/14 at 12:20:08
 
Ebil wrote on 05/16/14 at 11:55:53:
Can't you put Mario Kart 8 in the tags section? And leave the abbreviation. Since the search engine checks tags too. Having the game abbreviation at the beginning is useful for players who don't already know about the channel.
Though it depends on where you want to put the game name. Abbreviation if at front. Full text if at end.
But either way, you'll probably want to include the other choice in the tags for the video.

Actually, an even better idea would be to include the game logo in the miniature. Doesn't leave any room for confusion compared to an abbreviation... which is already in the name of the channel itself anyway Tongue
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Reply #7 - 05/16/14 at 12:25:58
 
Ebil wrote on 05/16/14 at 11:55:53:
Since the search engine checks tags too.

It doesn’t. Key words in the video’s title will make the video show up far more than if you just put them in tags.
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Reply #8 - 05/16/14 at 12:37:32
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/16/14 at 12:25:58:
Ebil wrote on 05/16/14 at 11:55:53:
Since the search engine checks tags too.

It doesn’t. Key words in the video’s title will make the video show up far more than if you just put them in tags.

Just went and did a search. You're completely right.
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Reply #9 - 05/16/14 at 13:40:38
 
imo something like this should be in every description:

Compete in MK8 time trials at: [link to MK8 PP]
Discuss MK8 time trials at: [link to the MK8 section of these forums]
View the current World Records at: [link to MK8 WR site]
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Reply #10 - 05/16/14 at 14:09:59
 
As for shortening titles but keeping relevant info in there, perhaps something like

[MK8 WR] Mario Circuit: x:xx.xxx - playername

??

The extra "0" before the first digit of the record that many people use isn't necessary. And in a TT community, it should be well-understood what "mk8" and "WR" mean.
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Reply #12 - 05/19/14 at 05:51:39
 
GOOD! Im surprised that "Daan" used Baby Mario and not any of the heavyweights
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Reply #13 - 05/25/14 at 05:21:24
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/16/14 at 10:02:02:
could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it

I did a quick search on GameFAQ's Mario Kart 7 board (3 times as many “combo” as “setup”) + the Players' Page MK7 board (224 “combo” vs 95 “setup”) and it seems people are more likely to use and search for “combo”. I also found multiple posts from yourself, not limited to:



Ebil wrote on 05/16/14 at 11:55:53:
Though it depends on where you want to put the game name. Abbreviation if at front. Full text if at end.
But either way, you'll probably want to include the other choice in the tags for the video.

Yes, I will include MK8 WR in the default tags. ALAKTORN is right, the words located in the video title bear a higher importance (especially if they're popular words) when YouTube builds search results.


Cole wrote on 05/16/14 at 13:40:38:
imo something like this should be in every description:

Compete in MK8 time trials at: [link to MK8 PP]
Discuss MK8 time trials at: [link to the MK8 section of these forums]
View the current World Records at: [link to MK8 WR site]

Ok. I guess it will be copy-pasted in every description in the early days instead of direct links to the players' profiles on such websites because we won't have time. Btw is it confirmed that MK8 PP URL will be http://www.mariokart64.com/mk8/ ?


hahaae wrote on 05/16/14 at 14:09:59:
The extra "0" before the first digit of the record that many people use isn't necessary. And in a TT community, it should be well-understood what "mk8" and "WR" mean.

You are correct, the zero is useless and takes room so it won't be written. Even Nintendo has removed it this time:

It may be possible to attract new players in the community from WR videos on YouTube, that's why as Ebil suggested the popular keyword will be spelled in full at the end of the title, and the terms known by the community will be put in tags for efficient searches (such as “mk8 wr bc” for Bowser's Castle WR in MK8).



           TAGS:


(see also: YouTube Keyword Suggestion tool)

there's still room for some more… did I miss any obvious tag?
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Reply #14 - 05/25/14 at 05:36:34
 
RRD wrote on 05/25/14 at 05:21:24:
there's still room for some more… did I miss any obvious tag?

I don't see much missing other than "best record(s)", and even that one is debatable.
Might want to include "best setup" anyway even if "setup" is only used by a minority. Maybe add "best build" for that matter, I've seen that term used on some other non-kart sites.

Edit : Will there be tags specific to the video uploaded, like the vehicle parts or the track abbreviations ? Personally I think it'll be a bit too much extra work for something that may not actually help, but what do others feel about this ?
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Reply #15 - 05/25/14 at 06:36:32
 
^ YouTube will also search in the description. It has a low priority compared with title & tags, but in that case we're talking about game-specific elements that not much people will type, so there's no need to customize tags in each video for that purpose I believe, it's a loss of time.
For example type “mk7 wr beast glider” in the search bar and you'll find multiple TT videos with “Beast Glider” somewhere in the description.

The only thing that needs to be added manually for each video is indeed the track abbreviation as it doesn't appear anywhere else (and can be added quickly).

I added the build & setup thing. You can see default upload settings at: https://www.youtube.com/upload_defaults


The header of the main channel page can only contain 1 external link. Should we put the MK8 Players' Page, the MK8 PP forum, Cole's website…?
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Reply #16 - 05/25/14 at 07:29:25
 
I really doubt the MK8 PP will ever have all the 32 WRs on the site. Therefore it could lead to a bit of confusion if someone discover the PP and see that the top time (Site Record) listed for a given track is different (and slower) than the one in the video he just watched.

So if we had to choose only one site, the WR history is the best one as it will be the most updated AND the most relevant to the content uploaded on MK8Records.

The link to the MK8 PP should still be added in the description of the channel and the videos though.

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Reply #17 - 05/25/14 at 07:55:53
 
RRD wrote on 05/25/14 at 05:21:24:
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/16/14 at 10:02:02:
could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it

I did a quick search on GameFAQ's Mario Kart 7 board (3 times as many “combo” as “setup”) + the Players' Page MK7 board (224 “combo” vs 95 “setup”) and it seems people are more likely to use and search for “combo”. I also found multiple posts from yourself, not limited to:
[img]http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/21/1401019815-mk8-players-page-yt-description-combo-vs-setup.png [img]

I’ve only used “combo” myself because that’s what everybody else uses, but it makes literally no grammatical sense and is eye-cancer for any language-loving individual. I’d still much prefer if we used “setup” rather than “combo”, it would look a lot more professional

also, relevant link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_setup (notice the title)
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Reply #18 - 05/25/14 at 12:28:59
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/25/14 at 07:55:53:
RRD wrote on 05/25/14 at 05:21:24:
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/16/14 at 10:02:02:
could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it

I did a quick search on GameFAQ's Mario Kart 7 board (3 times as many “combo” as “setup”) + the Players' Page MK7 board (224 “combo” vs 95 “setup”) and it seems people are more likely to use and search for “combo”. I also found multiple posts from yourself, not limited to:
[img]http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/21/1401019815-mk8-players-page-yt-description-combo-vs-setup.png [img]

I’ve only used “combo” myself because that’s what everybody else uses, but it makes literally no grammatical sense and is eye-cancer for any language-loving individual. I’d still much prefer if we used “setup” rather than “combo”, it would look a lot more professional

also, relevant link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_setup (notice the title)

com·bo
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Reply #19 - 05/25/14 at 16:16:18
 
Alex, go fuck yourself, only mentally ill people could think “combo” for a car’s setup would make any sense
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Reply #20 - 05/25/14 at 21:27:06
 
Then you can continue calling it a set up and we can call it a combo.
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Reply #21 - 05/25/14 at 22:05:35
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 05/25/14 at 07:55:53:
I’ve only used “combo” myself because that’s what everybody else uses, but it makes literally no grammatical sense and is eye-cancer for any language-loving individual. I’d still much prefer if we used “setup” rather than “combo”, it would look a lot more professional

also, relevant link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_setup (notice the title)

Well, in our case it's not just a car setup but a combination of a chassis, tires, glider *and* character as all 4 will be put in the same line.
Ultimately, what matters is that it's the word most people use, while setup will be in the tags, just like Mario Kart 8 is in the title while mk8 is in the tags.


It seems I am the only person on the channel who can record vids & will get MK8 on release date. If you are interested in joining please contact Mick because I am certainly not going to be able to record many WRs by myself.
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Reply #22 - 05/26/14 at 03:47:51
 
combo gives me cancer every time I hear it, you all suck massive penis
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Reply #23 - 05/26/14 at 03:55:27
 
I can help the channel if needed Wink
I have a HD PVR, so I can record in 720p Grin
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Reply #24 - 05/26/14 at 04:27:21
 
Olifré wrote on 05/26/14 at 03:55:27:
I can help the channel if needed Wink
I have a HD PVR, so I can record in 720p Grin

Cool. Send to Mick your Google+ page, or the e-mail address of your Google account, so that he gives you access to the channel.

Then if you want to upload videos, click on your icon in the upper-right corner → Switch account → MK8 Records.



We'd also need people from America because of timezones.


ALAKTORN I promise if you get a WR we'll put SETUP in the video description.  Grin
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