Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register    
 
smk mk64 mksc mkdd mkds mkwii mk7 mk8
general   mafia   smk   mk64   mksc   mkdd   mkds   mkw   mk7   mk8   |   problems   |   discord   irc
 
  Home Search Members Login Register
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print
Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel (Read 1056 times)
Nuke
n00b
*
Offline



3886 days karting
USA
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #25 - 05/26/14 at 09:48:54
 
If I purchase the Wii U + MK8 bundle by release or shortly after, I am very anticipated in participating in this. I worked hard on optimizing MKW video recording, so I believe MK8 should have an equally organized way of presenting any of-value records.

Also hopefully Nintendo will take as much care as they did with MKW's leaderboard and ghost system instead of they way they handled MK7. Also, as you said Mick, now that MK8 will be a console game, game recording will be much easier than buying not widely-known 3DS capture cards...which are also pricey. I own a Hauppauge HD PVR Model 1212, as you can see (this video was not uploaded by me, but by someone else since it was a request; the video is still recorded by me):



Hopefully that meets your expectations.

I'm pretty active in the TT community, even though I haven't shown much activity here. And about being trusted, the only possible hurtful thing I've done is hack for fun in a war against some random clan, which I then got caught and was put on the IL banlist. I am nowhere near someone who would preform bad and troublesome acts for fun, and never have, plus I can safely say we have all hacked for fun at least once while playing games.

RRD wrote on 05/16/14 at 08:59:33:
‌‌‌


I agree that optimizing search results in a good idea, and that we should see what we can do to make the videos more accessible, but some of your ideas seem like they could be worked on. This is all only my best opinion so if you would want to debate on what would be best, please do so. We can start off with how the title of videos should be put.

The way people like Sword or Mander put their titles seems like the best shortened, clean, informative way of presenting what the video is about. For example, a spammy way of putting the title would be such as:

Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - ☆Jας©hα☆ (Mario Kart 8 World Record)

The problem with this is that it probably wouldn't fit under YouTube's title space when viewing the video. You'd have to click on the title again just to see the rest of it. Yes I know this is only for search engine optimization, but it would be better to include such tags and wording in the video description or in the tags themselves. Plus, this look just looks long. A cleaner way of putting this would be:

[MK8 WR] Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - ☆Jας©hα☆

This looks short and to the point. Abbreviated words are better when classifying information as well, as they take up less space and appeal to the time trial and normal aspect of the community. It would also mostly fit under YouTube's video title viewing limit when viewing the video. Sure, if you have track names that are long by default, they might still break YouTube's viewing limit. This however should only be under 10% of the tracks in the game, whereas your suggestion would be for most if not all of the video titles. Also another point, which is still debatable; the only people who would probably be interested in the time trial aspect of the game are...well time trialers. Most time trialers already know the abbreviations such as "WR" and "MK8". The full, extended words should really only be left for the video tags and description. Here is an example of what the video title would look like in comparison to the extended version:





As you can see, the second image looks more visually appeasing.


As for the video descriptions, I agree the most of what you suggested is spot on.

At the top of the description before the "show more" tab should be opened, it should include the following information in the five lines:

- A note that says "Watch in 720p / 1080p."
- Date when time was set
- Current ranking of record when the time was set
- Lap splits of the run
- Vehicle combo used


As for the rest of the description after the "show more" tab, it would be cool if it included the following:

- Previous world record and the duration of it to the current world record
- [optional] player's comment
- Download link to the raw video to be viewed in better quality and frame-rate
- The music used in the run if used, following the link to the music
- Link to the player's YouTube channel, and/or other main social networks, and if possible the stream link to where they set the run at.
- Links to the official rankings sites, such as Cole's site, the MK8 PP (when created), the MK8 PP forums, etc.


As for special characters, characters such as underscores to separate sections of the description and bullets to list information if very helpful. Also, if music was used, the song name would be surrounded in music symbols. As cool as Andy's description looks, it's not necessary at all. Here is an example of what the description would look like:

Link to the description since it is too large to screen-shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0p0rJwIb7Q

The reason I put quotation marks around the numbers instead of decimals and semicolons in the description is so we could prevent YouTube from automatically creating timestamps, which would make it look like a mess. You could also have viewers accidentally click one of these, interrupting them.


I have much more to say from here, but I'm going to stop it here, and see what you and other people think about my suggestions thus far. Please let me know what you think about it.
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW nuke.43   IP Logged
Mick
Ninja
*****
Offline



6045 days karting
France
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #26 - 05/26/14 at 11:30:02
 
Oh so you're LF2992. I was wondering who was that new member that popped out of nowhere with a huge post.

Where's your PP profile ? I remember RRD mentioned you as a candidate for recording to me... unfortunately I don't even have the option to add you as a manager for some reason. PM me so we can try to fix this.

Nuke wrote on 05/26/14 at 09:48:54:
Also hopefully Nintendo will take as much care as they did with MKW's leaderboard and ghost system instead of they way they handled MK7.

This how ghost replays look on MK8 :



Actually better than expected, it's exactly like a Time Trial recorded during a run, except that the character is transparent. Clearly show the splits and even the coins !

Nuke wrote on 05/26/14 at 09:48:54:
The way people like Sword or Mander put their titles seems like the best shortened, clean, informative way of presenting what the video is about. For example, a spammy way of putting the title would be such as:

Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - ☆Jας©hα☆ (Mario Kart 8 World Record)

The problem with this is that it probably wouldn't fit under YouTube's title space when viewing the video. You'd have to click on the title again just to see the rest of it. Yes I know this is only for search engine optimization, but it would be better to include such tags and wording in the video description or in the tags themselves. Plus, this look just looks long. A cleaner way of putting this would be:

[MK8 WR] Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - ☆Jας©hα☆

This looks short and to the point. Abbreviated words are better when classifying information as well, as they take up less space and appeal to the time trial and normal aspect of the community. It would also mostly fit under YouTube's video title viewing limit when viewing the video. Sure, if you have track names that are long by default, they might still break YouTube's viewing limit. This however should only be under 10% of the tracks in the game, whereas your suggestion would be for most if not all of the video titles. Also another point, which is still debatable; the only people who would probably be interested in the time trial aspect of the game are...well time trialers. Most time trialers already know the abbreviations such as "WR" and "MK8". The full, extended words should really only be left for the video tags and description. Here is an example of what the video title would look like in comparison to the extended version:

http://i.gyazo.com/4d82b4e429fb5513794895533fe799d4.png

http://i.gyazo.com/80fa4a15bffc7aab80b36129975afff6.png

As you can see, the second image looks more visually appeasing.

The way you propose is better for the title of the video you're currently watching, however it is worse for the video suggestions as they don't display as many characters as the one under the main video. We think it's better to make it easier for people to find our videos through the suggestions, I've even suggested during some information on the miniature itself if possible. However if you can manage to change our mind, go ahead !

Nuke wrote on 05/26/14 at 09:48:54:
As for the video descriptions, I agree the most of what you suggested is spot on.

At the top of the description before the "show more" tab should be opened, it should include the following information in the five lines:

- A note that says "Watch in 720p / 1080p."
- Date when time was set
- Current ranking of record when the time was set
- Lap splits of the run
- Vehicle combo used


As for the rest of the description after the "show more" tab, it would be cool if it included the following:

- Previous world record and the duration of it to the current world record
- [optional] player's comment
- Download link to the raw video to be viewed in better quality and frame-rate
- The music used in the run if used, following the link to the music
- Link to the player's YouTube channel, and/or other main social networks, and if possible the stream link to where they set the run at.
- Links to the official rankings sites, such as Cole's site, the MK8 PP (when created), the MK8 PP forums, etc.


As for special characters, characters such as underscores to separate sections of the description and bullets to list information if very helpful. Also, if music was used, the song name would be surrounded in music symbols. As cool as Andy's description looks, it's not necessary at all. Here is an example of what the description would look like:

Link to the description since it is too large to screen-shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0p0rJwIb7Q


- A note that says "Watch in 720p / 1080p.
I don't think it is even necessary or at least an information important enough to be at the top of the description, when we already have the gear on the video player showing the resolutions available.

- Date when time was set
- Current ranking of record when the time was set

You could likely cram those two in a single line, but why not if we have the space.

- Lap splits of the run
As mentioned above, the splits are shown directly in the ghost replay, but it may be a information significant enough to be on top of the description (same thing for coins and mushrooms btw).

- Vehicle combo used
This one should be on the top, indeed.

I agree with the rest. Maybe we could move the link of the high-quality 60fps video to the top (if we do them). Some of the special characters may be a little bit extraneous, but I'd say it looks great. I wanted to include underscore lines too. And it shouldn't be a problem if we just copy-paste the description and use it as a template for all videos.
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 05/26/14 at 12:01:00 by Mick »  

Youtube (Mario Kart 8 WRs) - Twitter - Twitch

Camster wrote on 02/10/10 at 08:50:34:
A world without kart is just not a world worth living in

Web wrote on 05/13/10 at 11:24:04:
You can't quit kart, it's a mental impossibility.
View Profile   IP Logged
Alex R.
Ex Member




Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #27 - 05/27/14 at 10:14:43
 
I would definitely trust Nuke as a manager of the channel, if this is what it's about. I've known him for over a year and the only non trustworthy thing he's done was hacking against a random clan, other than that, nothing comes to mind. He's quite a mature person when needed as well, so it would definitely be a plus to have him help out.
He doesn't have a profile if I recall, but I could probably assume that he would make one for MK8, though I haven't asked him, so you could call that statement baseless.
His quality is definitely among the best of current active TT recorders, especially since he uses Sony Vegas, a program, that in my opinion, is inferior to VirtualDub (What most of the oldschool TT Recorders used, Sword, Shaun, NMeade, MEGA3WII, etc.)

I'm also willing to help out with the channel, I'm not sure if I mentioned this before, but I own an El Gato Game Capture HD, that can record up to 1080p raw, if I recall. Though my upload speed lacks, I can always upload things overnight, if needed.
In the end, the rest of this post may be completely irrelevant, depending on whether or not GameXplain's videos of MK8 are direct output, I'll check later on when I have a chance to edit some more.
An example of my rendering settings on MK8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYgNGahISII
Once in a while Nuke and I talk about quality, though he's more knowledgeable he helped me out an enormous amount with my MKW Quality, an example of my MKW Quality (This is a ghost race, I haven't actually recorded that many runs as of recent times, though I plan to upload some PRs when I get the chance to.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1h9R_S9h_o
As for my trustworthiness, I would let other's decide. I've had rough times with people in the community so I tend to have a terrible reputation, but I've been trying as of late to put those rocky relations in the past and move forward in the community, since it's a new game and all.
Other examples:

Attempted replica of what Mindscarp used to do with his videos (The color correction and sharpness are messed up, but it takes a while and is difficult to fully sync up certain things):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu9ANFXd7rs

Koopa Cape Lap 1 with similar settings of what I currently use (Most of my videos have a strange green tint to them, although it's slight, I'm working on fixing this.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6tmuxlLceU

Onto other things.
I would have to say the way Sword or Mander do the titles would be the best, in my honest opinion; for the most part you would be able to see the entire title on a video without problem.
The description, I would agree with Nuke on all of his points, and into his etc, we should also have a link to all of the top 10s, though I'm not sure whether or not we would use Zak and Aruba's site for the WW top 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJfIO29K2kg
I'm not sure if this is similar to what you meant Nuke, let me know what I should do otherwise and or any suggestions.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
J-Cop
Legend
*****
Offline

The Jon Coppernoll
of MKSC

5750 days karting
Wisconsin, USA
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #28 - 05/27/14 at 10:31:45
 
This is a little off-topic, but has anyone uploaded a video to youtube using the MKTV feature yet?  And if yes, is the quality any good?
Back to top
 
 

View Profile   IP Logged
Alex R.
Ex Member




Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #29 - 05/27/14 at 10:41:22
 
J-Cop wrote on 05/27/14 at 10:31:45:
This is a little off-topic, but has anyone uploaded a video to youtube using the MKTV feature yet?  And if yes, is the quality any good?

If I recall the video was somewhere on youtube, I can't find it now though.
The quality looked fine, but I think it could look better with an actual capture card and video editing, and the video was with the ghost race view so it was third person flying around like a maniac.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
RRD
King
****
Offline

RainbowRoll'D

5913 days karting
France
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #30 - 05/28/14 at 07:36:59
 
           TOP 10s:

Players can associate a Miiverse comment to their ghost; this comment will be shown in the Top 10 view when the cursor is on their line. The game may take a few seconds to load these comments, even after “Getting Miiverse posts…” disappears, so wait a bit.
If you scroll down using buttons, the cursor will move to the next players in the list:


Thus, if you want to see the full Top 10 while keeping the WR holder's comment displayed on screen, simply scroll down using the Wii U GamePad's touchscreen and take a screenshot (the TV and GamePad both show the same thing in the menus):


There is enough vertical room in the game to show all 10 times as well as the track name on screen, so if the track name is right at the top, that means you don't need to count the number of lines – there should be 10 times on-screen, no more no less.

To get the player's comment URL, press + in the game to open the comment page on Miiverse, give a “Yeah!”, then on your computer go to the list of Yeahs! given ( https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/YOURNNID/empathies ) and click on the comment. You can also Unyeah the comment from there unless you really want to give Yeahs! to all MK8 World Records. In our example, GT★Sεbøss™ 's comment URL is: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAAABUaW_BprCvQ





           SLIDESHOW OF WORLDWIDE TOP 10s:

I think it would be nice to have at least once a day an archive of all 32 Top 10s – remember mandermka's website. This time, in addition to taking pics, we could provide a slideshow version on the MK8Records channel. Here's an example with yesterday's video:




The video is 29.97 fps and each image is shown during 150 frames (5 seconds). For those who use AviSynth, this is the script: http://www.mediafire.com/download/e366y7d0yn49epy/aMK8_Top10_imagescript.avs
Do a global replace (CTRL+H) to update the date/time part of the image file names when making a new video.

I added music so that the video is a bit more engaging, and people who do not know English track names can still understand. Let me share it:
.wav lossless (29 MB): http://www.mediafire.com/download/iok5id6p76wtx3c/MK8_Top10_medley_v1.wav
.aac 320 kbps (6 MB): http://www.mediafire.com/download/n418hn10iy4vqp1/MK8_Top10_medley_v1.mp4
Back to top
 
 

Mario Kart 8 World Record videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/MK8Records
View Profile WWW   IP Logged
ALAKTORN
Myth
*****
Offline

Resident weeaboo

6519 days karting
Italy - Viserba
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #31 - 05/28/14 at 11:05:14
 
nice job RRD
Back to top
 
 

ALAKTORN wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:24:31:
OH YEAH WHY AM I NOT GLOATING MORE

I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GET FUCKED

My YouTube

MKDS: 31 GODs, 28 Myths, 5 Titans, Hold 9 NoPRB CRs, Hold 11 PRB CRs, Hold 2 NoMT WRs, Held 7 NoPRB WRs and 8 Beta WRs
MKW: Held 2 3lap WRs, many Flaps
MK7: Held a lot of WRs
MK8: Held some WRs
View Profile alaktorn91   IP Logged
Mick
Ninja
*****
Offline



6045 days karting
France
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #32 - 04/10/17 at 13:52:29
 
Tentative bump as we get closer to the MK8 Deluxe release.

With the game tracking both 150cc and 200cc, and the 150cc records going to be different because of the stats adjustements/the new ultra mt, that makes 96 WRs to track of IN ADDITION to the MK8 Wii U records that will still be happening!

I don't know what mindscarp has planned regarding MK8DX WR videos, but doing so much recording, moreso in the launch days, is likely out of his scope, and he could probably use some help!

Since the time I have made this topic, I acquired a HD capture card for the purpose of streaming, but I can also basic recording with it as well, and have successfully recorded 720p30 videos. Haven't tried 720p60 recording yet, but considering I can't even watch 60fps videos on my current PC, this seems out of my reach. I also have a relatively shitty upload which limits how much I can put out in a single day (I estimate around 20mn for a single 720p30 vid), so I cannot currently be as productive as what would be required to pick up the slack. At least I should have enough space to archive a whole bunch of otherwise unrecorded WRs.

Asking again, is there anybody else that can do HD recording? Should we prioritise 200cc over 150cc at the beginning? How should we split the work if the team expands? Really interested in what mindscarp has to say on the matter...
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 04/10/17 at 14:16:38 by Mick »  

Youtube (Mario Kart 8 WRs) - Twitter - Twitch

Camster wrote on 02/10/10 at 08:50:34:
A world without kart is just not a world worth living in

Web wrote on 05/13/10 at 11:24:04:
You can't quit kart, it's a mental impossibility.
View Profile   IP Logged
Colvin
Ex Member




Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #33 - 04/10/17 at 13:59:54
 
I could do it. The capture card I use is Elgato Game Capture HD which can record up to 1080p. My computer can easily handle 720p video. My internet speed is 10-20 mbps so it takes about 2-4 minutes to upload a 2:00 HD video.

Would I qualify?
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Mick
Ninja
*****
Offline



6045 days karting
France
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #34 - 04/10/17 at 14:04:07
 
That's better than what I can do for the time being so I'd say so!

There's also editing work involved in making those videos, but I'm not sure it'll be necessary for the first few weeks where the WRs will be changing fast and not being great neither.
Back to top
 
 

Youtube (Mario Kart 8 WRs) - Twitter - Twitch

Camster wrote on 02/10/10 at 08:50:34:
A world without kart is just not a world worth living in

Web wrote on 05/13/10 at 11:24:04:
You can't quit kart, it's a mental impossibility.
View Profile   IP Logged
Colvin
Ex Member




Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #35 - 04/10/17 at 14:08:39
 
Although, I'm still not sure if I want to do this. How long do I have to make decision? Also, I don't think I'll be getting a Nintendo Switch this month.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Mick
Ninja
*****
Offline



6045 holabolas
France
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #36 - 04/10/17 at 14:15:48
 
Launch period will be when potential recorders would be the most needed. That doesn't mean you cannot be useful later down the line.

Even though I technically still own the channel IIRC, I won't take any decision for a few days, and without mindscarp's opinion, as he's much more qualified than me on the matter.
Back to top
 
 

Youtube (Mario Kart 8 WRs) - Twitter - Twitch

Camster wrote on 02/10/10 at 08:50:34:
A world without kart is just not a world worth living in

Web wrote on 05/13/10 at 11:24:04:
You can't quit kart, it's a mental impossibility.
View Profile   IP Logged
Mick
Ninja
*****
Offline



6045 holabolas
France
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #37 - 04/18/17 at 04:51:36
 
Mindscarp/RRD will not be doing recording work for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, meaning that a new team will have task of doing the videos for that game, if we want to keep the initiative going.

Mindscarp is now officially the owner of MK8Records, and with his advice, I think a new YT channel dedicated to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is more appriopriate, rather than having everything under the MK8Records, which could have caused confusion regarding the different 150cc WRs for the Wii U and Switch games.

I have yet to create the YT account, however I have set up a new Discord server in order to structure a team and organise the various roles/tasks.

If you are (still) volunteer to help with this project, PM me and I'll send you an invite to the server. (I may end up making the server public eventually in the near future)
Back to top
 
 

Youtube (Mario Kart 8 WRs) - Twitter - Twitch

Camster wrote on 02/10/10 at 08:50:34:
A world without kart is just not a world worth living in

Web wrote on 05/13/10 at 11:24:04:
You can't quit kart, it's a mental impossibility.
View Profile   IP Logged
Mick
Ninja
*****
Offline



punched 6045 kiddies
France
Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #38 - 04/22/17 at 07:43:20
 
Sorry for triple posting, but you find the new MK8DX Records youtube channel at this link :

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_292L5mAJowD4LCCNZRbHg

Furthermore, from now on, you can also freely join the related Discord server, if you want to help in any way, provide feedback/suggestions, or keep up-to-date with future videos.

https://discord.gg/H78Kjmb

We currently have 4 recorders, myself included, so I have good hope that this venture will start of successfully!
Back to top
 
 

Youtube (Mario Kart 8 WRs) - Twitter - Twitch

Camster wrote on 02/10/10 at 08:50:34:
A world without kart is just not a world worth living in

Web wrote on 05/13/10 at 11:24:04:
You can't quit kart, it's a mental impossibility.
View Profile   IP Logged
Suuper
King
****
Offline

DoubleU

worships 3888 kartgods

Gender: male
Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Reply #39 - 05/02/17 at 19:50:24
 
Big thanks to all the recorders for the MK8DX channel. Smiley
Back to top
 
 

Check out my channel for record TAS times: http://youtube.com/channel/UCUB9FwsmWg2wTyTU2vZBI7Q
View Profile   IP Logged
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print