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Reply #150 - 07/21/14 at 21:14:01
 
Michael F wrote on 07/21/14 at 00:40:48:
Timothy wrote on 07/21/14 at 00:12:49:
-Pretty sure it's only not done due to difficulty, but get 4-5 coins while gliding.
If someone has a video of this happening then I'd be interested, but tbh I don't think this will ever be used as part of the definitive WR strat (happy to be proven wrong though).


4 coins while gliding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yu8qskwhI0


That's insane.  I hate coins in this game.
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Reply #151 - 07/22/14 at 01:08:05
 
Yeah that's pretty cool, still not sure it's viable both in terms of repeatability and sacrificing time.
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Reply #152 - 07/22/14 at 04:01:19
 
Rhodechill wrote on 07/21/14 at 21:14:01:
That's insane.  I hate coins in this game.


Well, they may be hated in racing (these items appear too much), but in TTs that's a whole other thing, since it's basically the same thing as in MK7 when we're talking about TTs...
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Reply #153 - 07/22/14 at 04:20:37
 
Coins just shouldn't be in TTs. It sucked in MK7 and it sucks here as well.
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Reply #154 - 07/22/14 at 04:53:39
 
At least you can do a race without items nor coins online... But why are you saying that's a bad thing in TTs??? I wonder what the Ed WR would have been if there were no coins... I think it wouldn't even be sub 2 minutes lol.
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Reply #155 - 07/22/14 at 05:01:50
 
I've played MKW a lot, and TTs were just more fun. With coins, you have to take wider lines etc. to get them. But that's just personal preference. And why is it a bad thing if a WR doesn't sub 2 minutes?
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Reply #156 - 07/22/14 at 05:36:49
 
Even if in this game, there seems to be more 2 minute tracks compared to MK7... I didn't necessarily mean it like it was a bad thing... I must have played MK7 more than MKW, I'd say,  but still... I wonder why coins are bad. Personal preference: I'll give you the point. No wonder why the MKW tracks take 3 minutes with no coins too... I just wanted to approximate the times.
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Reply #157 - 07/22/14 at 06:35:45
 
γαζτεη wrote on 07/22/14 at 05:36:49:
Even if in this game, there seems to be more 2 minute tracks compared to MK7... I didn't necessarily mean it like it was a bad thing... I must have played MK7 more than MKW, I'd say,  but still... I wonder why coins are bad. Personal preference: I'll give you the point. No wonder why the MKW tracks take 3 minutes with no coins too... I just wanted to approximate the times.


That's besides the point though; you're comparing the two games as if a lack of coins in MKW is affecting its overall speed. The two systems are completely independent of each other. MKW tracks aren't longer because there are no coins, they're just longer...
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Reply #158 - 07/22/14 at 07:14:41
 
Or the vehicles are slower.
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Reply #159 - 07/22/14 at 08:02:05
 
Suuper wrote on 07/19/14 at 17:15:43:
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-Untested; go around grass at end, and shroom to stack hops?


How would this be faster then cutting the grass??? I think the grass is too close to the finish line to make it count anyway...
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Reply #160 - 07/22/14 at 09:03:19
 
γαζτεη wrote on 07/22/14 at 08:02:05:
Suuper wrote on 07/19/14 at 17:15:43:
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-Untested; go around grass at end, and shroom to stack hops?


How would this be faster then cutting the grass??? I think the grass is too close to the finish line to make it count anyway...


Going around doesn't look like a much longer path, so it might save more time to stack hops than cut the grass.
I did go try this, though, and going around the grass is harder than I expected, so it doesn't seem very likely to save time.
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Reply #161 - 07/22/14 at 09:21:27
 
@Suuper: You'd have to do an awfully sharp drift lol. You'd have more chance to go on the grass already anyway. It was easier to go around the grass in MK7 however.
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Reply #162 - 07/22/14 at 18:14:00
 
Has anyone tried bunny sliding/skimming/whatever after the double smt turn on Water Park after fire hopping (when the slope angle is downwards)?

Another strat idea: the current WR gets 3 coins in the underwater part before the glider, and skips 1 of the 3 approaching the glider. Wouldn't it be better to skip the third coin of the run (the one you go wide for around the double smt turn), and then get 3 underwater and all 3 at the glider? I don't know how consistant it is to get 2 coins at once in the rows underwater though.
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Reply #163 - 07/23/14 at 21:50:56
 
Those both sound pretty plausible. Getting 2 coins in the underwater row is relatively easy, imo.
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Reply #164 - 07/26/14 at 12:59:16
 
You can easily add an MT in the first turn of rYV, I have no clue why it's not done.
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Reply #165 - 07/26/14 at 13:46:54
 
Ridley_ wrote on 07/26/14 at 12:59:16:
You can easily add an MT in the first turn of rYV, I have no clue why it's not done.

I tried that and wasn’t capable Sad

edit: only tried lap 1 though
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Reply #166 - 07/26/14 at 14:43:44
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 07/26/14 at 13:46:54:
Ridley_ wrote on 07/26/14 at 12:59:16:
You can easily add an MT in the first turn of rYV, I have no clue why it's not done.

I tried that and wasn’t capable Sad

edit: only tried lap 1 though


Oh yes, it's probably harder / not possible for first lap because of the different route
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Reply #167 - 07/28/14 at 05:25:40
 
RR ending looks bad (on final lap); WR should try delaying the last SMT and fire hop to the end (instead of quickly releasing the SMT just to get an additional MT).
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Reply #168 - 07/28/14 at 05:31:21
 
RR: must have tried an early SMT that I didn't convert into an MT... And my time was better... Good question. Was it because I was on L3? Maybe.
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Reply #169 - 08/05/14 at 06:31:36
 
Hop skimming downhill after the last boost pad on TH?
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Reply #170 - 08/05/14 at 15:39:35
 
Could spin-hopping be useful? (Start a hop one way, change direction mid-hop.) It allows you to hop without changing your alignment much, so if it gives a boost comparable to regular bunny hopping, it might be useful in a few places.
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Reply #171 - 08/05/14 at 19:38:45
 
I’ve already told you but it’s far more useless than it looks

what changes is the camera, your trajectory stays almost the same as with a normal drift
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Reply #172 - 08/06/14 at 06:36:31
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/05/14 at 19:38:45:
I’ve already told you but it’s far more useless than it looks

what changes is the camera, your trajectory stays almost the same as with a normal drift


You've never actually done one, have you? -.-
You can watch the highlight reel in slow-mo too, if you can't make accurate comparisons at normal speed.

Or just take it from the guy who occasionally does it on accident: it ruins my line.
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Reply #173 - 08/06/14 at 08:50:26
 
if you’re doing it on accident, how the hell can I take you seriously? Roll Eyes they’re easy to do, and I’ve tested them on corners of DP3, they’re useless (also the two times it happened by accident to me, they didn’t ruin my line)
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Reply #174 - 08/06/14 at 08:58:56
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 08/06/14 at 08:50:26:
if you’re doing it on accident, how the hell can I take you seriously? Roll Eyes they’re easy to do, and I’ve tested them on corners of DP3, they’re useless (also the two times it happened by accident to me, they didn’t ruin my line)


Because if doing them unintentionally makes a difference, the technique can change your alignment and therefore could be useful.
They don't always ruin my line either, I can compensate when I see it happen.

("tested it on corners": I'm not talking about spindrifting.)
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