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Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Day 7 - 48 hours (Read 7156 times)
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Re: Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Day 1 - 48 hours
Reply #50 - 03/18/14 at 12:44:00
 
I was waiting for you to get your ass in the game, obviously.

Unvote

Also what TvK said basically sums up my thoughts, however Silver looking for a role claim there is very bad.
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Reply #51 - 03/18/14 at 13:00:08
 
Fant0m wrote on 03/18/14 at 12:41:02:
Nope, no claims for me, yet, I'm just analyzing people's reactions on the very first day.
I can notice Fank is playing the usual way so I can't tell if he's mafia or town yet.

People unvoting and voting for me right away, all in a row, just to lynch someone always seems very scum to me. It's as if they knew he was innocent but still wanted to kill him and try to make everyone else join their thoughts. What's even the point of wagoning for someone who hasn't even posted yet...?
Ftm, I'm expecting people like TVK, blahpy and Kmacc to be mafia.
Also, I find it funny how Brett started the wagon but then says later on it was a joke, without unvoting...

Shock is actually trying to participate a lot in this game so far.

Timothy and Kmacc voting for each other, then unvoting ... What's the point?

Also, I looked at Timothy's posts but didn't see anywhere he had unvoted Kmacc...
However, in Kmacc's votes update post, it seems like he stroke Timothy's vote on his name...
This means he probably expected Timothy to post an "unvote" somewhere as if it was obvious he wouldn't vote for Kmacc in the end... As if they were in the same team...

That makes  2 wrong points for Kmacc.
Vote : Kmacc



My apologies, Tim never did unvote me, you're right. But like I said, I tallied that up quick, and I really only did it because it hadn't been done yet. I even admitted it might be wrong. If you'd like, you can assume counting the votes, since you seem to have an eye for it.

As for voting for you, at least I substantiated that I wanted you to get more involved, unlike others who voted for you on the first day just because. I think that's how others felt though anyway regardless, hence why Brett unvoted for you now that you've finally posted. I hope you also realize that by the time you want to post tomorrow morning, the day will literally be almost over, so putting it off until then is basically saying you're not going to participate for the rest of day one, no? And nobody even tried to convince others to strictly vote toward you. People were voting toward dead weight players, and you happened to be one of them.

Me and Tim always used to vote for each other at the beginning of these games, so it was kind of tradition. This always happens at the beginning of mafia games, you should know this from playing in more than a few.
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Reply #52 - 03/18/14 at 13:52:11
 
Made that last post rather quickly between classes. But really, Silver is beyond scummy.

DJT wrote on 03/17/14 at 08:04:10:
Vote Flo

Just because.


Then nothing. However, he speaks up again when spoken to:

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We really don't have any leads on day 1. Subsequent days will bring more evidence. Even if a long shot, might as well vote someone randomly because we might get lucky.


Subsequent days bring evidence on the assumption that those who don't make it to day 2 actually did some kind of analysis and stirring of the water. Silver strat though: vote randomly and hope to get lucky, there's not much point in trying. Difficulties thinking/analyzing from an ignorant standpoint, Silver?

TvK brings up this issue, and he replies again:

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On day 1? There's very little evidence, and the mafia probably haven't planned who they are going to kill yet, so they probably won't slip up. There's nothing to go by, at least not yet.


Wow. Such apathy towards making efforts to find and lynch scum. Very plonker.

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Flo, do you have any claims? Are you a doctor or investigator, perhaps?


Roleclaiming at this point in the game is beyond stupid. He'd die overnight and nothing would come of it. He wasn't even close yet to getting lynched. Why the hell would a townie in his right mind even attempt to bring such secrets to light? But asking for a roleclaim before he's even posted??

Yeah, my vote is on Silver for the rest of the day. Brett's not looking too townie to me, either. Any line of "X has already summed up my thoughts" combined with limited/unhelpful personal contribution doesn't sit well with me. He also had that rather over-defensive reaction to Fank and wrote this:

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Mafia will kill the townies out of the active posters since the actives are the ones that pose the biggest threats to their safety.


1) That's rather an authoritative style about what the mafteam will do
2) Maf thrive on thread silence, and this seems to be (indirectly) encouraging it

Also, would still be nice if you replied to what I wrote earlier, Brett, even if it's more hypothetical now with Silver in the hot seat.
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Reply #53 - 03/18/14 at 14:07:45
 
-~25 posts (too lazy to actually count) I am disapointed :/

Shock wrote on 03/18/14 at 08:07:38:
Fank009 wrote on 03/18/14 at 03:14:06:
That's enough for me.
Blahpy's town.
No questions asked thank you.


Thought this was a joke until you said you would explain later.

The explanation for my thoughts on why I think blahpy's town.
The basic principle lines on 2 things, one, the fact that blahpy is still somewhat new,
2) the fact that the banter was against me.
New players don't simply jump into banter as scum, they just don't. In addition, it was against me, and I'm known as a huge grudge player, and sacrificing one simple pawn to get me rolling, isn't a good idea.
The second part is mainly speculation, but I feel I have enough psychological basis to put the claim in. I don't like the bandwagon vote, but 9/10 my original anaylsis is correct, and I'm going to stick to that analysis.

Shock wrote on 03/18/14 at 08:07:38:
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Flo, you can tell his alignment within the first 5 posts.


Shock wrote on 03/17/14 at 16:01:00:
That's what to watch for. Little slips and tells that someone might have more knowledge than they should.


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Hello... isnt that "getting rid of the dead weight"????


Lolno. You've been posting a good bit, and giving us a few things to work with whichever side you flip if you get the noose.

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I just don't like you preaching one way and going in the opposite direction.


The only thing I would preach is that God should do a stream before he gets unfrozen.


-you still see me as expendable though.
-note, preaching is a term that I'm familiar with, and using that to get what I'm trying to say out, (that what your doing is similar to preaching (so I feel)
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Shock, For some strange reason, I can't find the reasons to trust you. between flip flopping ideas and it "being personal", (especially flip flopping ideas concerning me.)

I have mixed thoughts about the silver vote, especially since you lead the charge, yes, it is screaming to be lynched, but I don't know if silver's flip does anything concerning your alignment? as you show that anyone is expendable in your eyes.


Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/18/14 at 08:04:09:
Should be more information after the night.  I like looking at the voting at the end of the day.  Also, i'm going to voting for my "to good of a townie" person later on in the game.

I feel like I've seen this stratergy from you as scum before... need to have a look back for confirmation.

J-Cop wrote on 03/18/14 at 06:37:35:
I have a hard time figuring out alliances on D1 since most votes are based on little to no evidence.  I don't like Silver's post, voting for someone "just because" then disappearing.  Even if it's a joke vote, he should at least take it back so it isn't counted.

Brett's post to Fank didn't look that bad to me, some of you might be reading too much into it.  Or maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything wrong with it.

No Flo or Zweibel?  Not sure what to think of that, D1 is halfway over, they should at least have said something.

Still no substance from you J-cop, can you PLEASE, post something containing your opinion, instead of what looks like anyone would say.

Fant0m wrote on 03/18/14 at 12:41:02:
...

(shortened cause I don't want all the quote cause it's irrelevant and making my post closer to a novel)
Hi Flo, Don't worry, you still have 3 posts to convince me of what side you are on.

TvK wrote on 03/18/14 at 10:28:16:
Also people not on Flo at the moment: Why would you/would you not join the wagon at this point?

Because, A Flo wagon (at that time) was as good as nearly any other wagon.

DJT wrote on 03/18/14 at 11:33:33:
On day 1? There's very little evidence, and the mafia probably haven't planned who they are going to kill yet, so they probably won't slip up. There's nothing to go by, at least not yet.

Flo, do you have any claims? Are you a doctor or investigator, perhaps?


Do you have a foot? because I'm not convinced you have one after this.

Robertvz wrote on 03/18/14 at 12:44:00:
I was waiting for you to get your ass in the game, obviously.

Q, do you need to wait before it starts raining to do a rain dance?


Zwiebel, where the bloody hell are you...


A silver lynch looks good at the moment, a J-cop/sportsguy/zwiebel lynch I would bite at as well.


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Re: Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Day 1 - 48 hours
Reply #54 - 03/18/14 at 14:09:13
 
My b, I must have missed that. The thing with Fank is while his posts and theories are rather chaotic, he's a relatively easy person to read by day 2 or day 3. He's active and upon rereading him hasn't done anything noteworthy to make me think he's necessarily mafia. I'll have more info on him by day 3.

Also Shock, I just want to let you know that IMO, the people more likely to be town are the ones that are trying to find scum. I know it sounds rather obvious but mafia try to focus on towntelling themselves. That's why when someone comes up with a FoS on another person, I'm going to probably question it and try to see the motives behind the read. It's by those motives that I determine if someone is town/scum, but the discussion hasn't been high enough yet for me to use this approach yet. However it's worked before.

Fank might be killed if he's town. If he either has no real lynch potential or poses a threat to mafia's safety (or even if they think he's a PR) then they'll off him in the night. All there is to it.
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Reply #55 - 03/18/14 at 14:10:32
 
Fank009 wrote on 03/18/14 at 14:07:45:
Q, do you need to wait before it starts raining to do a rain dance?


Yes.

Also we're not getting someone that posts 0 times. If they genuinely aren't aware they are in the game than statistics say they are around 75% town and the modkill will just be used on them anyway, no need to waste the ML on Zwiebel.
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Reply #56 - 03/18/14 at 14:15:58
 
Robertvz wrote on 03/18/14 at 14:10:32:
Also we're not getting someone that posts 0 times. If they genuinely aren't aware they are in the game than statistics say they are around 75% town and the modkill will just be used on them anyway, no need to waste the ML on Zwiebel.


depends on the situation, if the numbers of odd, we would lose a mislynch with zwieb's modkill, changing lylo to mylo and bringing it closer, since we are even it would just change mylo to lylo
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Reply #57 - 03/18/14 at 14:44:28
 
Early impressions so far Shock or Kmacc is mafia.  Maybe both.
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Reply #58 - 03/18/14 at 14:48:43
 
I have three people who I'm suspicious of right now.  This could all be 100% wrong, because as I said before, I have a hard time getting a good read on people on D1, but these are my thoughts currently.

TvK.  When Flo and Zwiebel were both unheard from, he pushed for a vote on Flo.  I asked why and he basically said he wants Zwiebel alive.  He even asked why others wouldn't jump on the Flo bandwagon, even though there wasn't much evidence against Flo at the time.  Later on, when Silver was put in the hot seat, TvK immediately jumped on board with that one and changed his vote to Silver.  Idk why, but Silver has come across as town to me.  That's my gut feeling on him so far.  TvK didn't even say why he changed his vote, he just switched it and left it that way, maybe thinking others would jump on board and lynch a townie.

Zwiebel.  If I'm right about TvK, then it would make sense that he would let Zwiebel get away without posting while also attacking Flo for the same reason.  These two go hand in hand, if TvK turns up mafia, it probably means Zwiebel is too IMO.

Shock.  I feel like he took an easy way out targeting Silver.  As I said before, my gut tells me Silver is town, but Shock singled him out and made it clear that he isn't changing his vote.  It seems kinda silly to make your final decision well before the day is over with no willingness to change it, unless you know for sure what side the other person is on, and the only way to be 100% sure on D1 is if you are mafia.
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Reply #59 - 03/18/14 at 15:05:18
 
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Shock singled him out and made it clear that he isn't changing his vote.  It seems kinda silly to make your final decision well before the day is over with no willingness to change it


Shock wrote on 03/17/14 at 23:18:09:
My vote is staying on whomever I think is scum, regardless of degree of information available.


Wrote what I did thinking it very unlikely that someone would post any scummier than Silver has. So unless that changes, of course I will be arguing that lynching Silver is a good move to conclude D1. Heck, it even doesn't conflict with the argument of lynching a deadweight, as he hasn't really contributed anything at all.
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Reply #60 - 03/18/14 at 15:12:27
 
Unvote: Flo

At least he's participated now, so there's that. I'm just going to be under the assumption that he's a townie who still doesn't know how to play properly.

The two more suspicious people that stand out to me are Silver and TvK (even though he voted for Silver, there was no threat of an actual lynch). I'm not sure if Silver asking Flo for a role call is scummy or if he's just newer to the game. TvK just seems to do the perfect amount of posting to look active, but really add no substance. He's already voted twice without giving a reason (though the first time was probably a joke).

Still want to hear from Zwiebel. I remember Tom saying this game is mostly vanillas, so I can't imagine Zwiebel is silenced or anything (especially since I think that doesn't usually start until day two). Just a quick question though, would him being modkilled plus us lynching somebody take away a day for us in-game?

Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/18/14 at 14:44:28:
Early impressions so far Shock or Kmacc is mafia.  Maybe both.  


I'm pretty sure you always think I'm mafia. If you could give some reasoning, that would be great.
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Reply #61 - 03/18/14 at 15:12:38
 
I also want to hear more from Lafungo. Been rather quiet, followed up my attempt at getting something started/get the thread active with a repeat of what I wrote, even put a vote on Brett. Considering Brett isn't exactly striking me as townie, in retrospect wondering if this was softbussing, as there never was a real risk to Brett at that point.
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Reply #62 - 03/18/14 at 15:19:17
 


Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/18/14 at 14:44:28:
Early impressions so far Shock or Kmacc is mafia.  Maybe both.  


I'm pretty sure you always think I'm mafia. If you could give some reasoning, that would be great. [/quote]

Everything day 1 is a crap shoot.  I'm just going by the "vibe" of your posts.  If that makes any sense.  Odds are i'm wrong, but who knows.  

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Reply #63 - 03/18/14 at 15:20:01
 
Ah, Flo actually turned up.  Unvote.

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Reply #64 - 03/18/14 at 15:20:19
 
^Screwed up the quote, but i won't edit.
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Reply #65 - 03/18/14 at 15:22:50
 
I'm reading through page two & typing as I go along so bear with me as I may write something without having seen later responses.


@Silver - lay off the role claiming idea, it's easily possible to screw ourselves over early as it adds more confusion and is largely unnecessary - it's the kind of thing the maf will love to use to get in peoples heads. Idk if Flo was just busy or whether sitting back is actually part of his master plan but he's posted so whatever, that's good. One more thing, there is never "nothing" to go by. Are you actually hinting towards a no lynch? Even reading through these last posts, there is a lot more to go on than earlier even if it doesn't seem like much.

@Flo - Kmacc & I just have a history of voting for each other without reason, no idea why you think it's anymore noteworthy than the other "just because" votes. "Just because" votes stimulate discussion, even if you think it may serve no purpose so don't read too much into them. And you're right, I didn't unvote Kmacc but will do at the end of this post.

@Fank - I don't think Zweibel would be a good lynch at all, even if he hasn't posted he probably has a reason. Obviously I could be wrong but I would have though all maf would have posted by now. I'd much rather go after someone who has a higher possibility of being scum.

@Sportsguy - Pls expand on Shock/Kmacc?


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Reply #66 - 03/18/14 at 15:28:53
 
Actually gonna keep my vote on you Kmacc, why on Flol again? If you think he's dead-weight townie is that really the best use of your vote? We still have some hours left and he's not coming back anytime soon, I'd rather pressure some other people.

Still want to hear more from Lock/Lafungo.

@Sportsguy - not sure what to make of that, anything in particular that stands out? Even if shock is suspicious at least he's posting a fair few points. As for Kmacc, well, as above.
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Reply #67 - 03/18/14 at 15:50:55
 
Timothy wrote on 03/18/14 at 15:28:53:
Actually gonna keep my vote on you Kmacc, why on Flol again? If you think he's dead-weight townie is that really the best use of your vote? We still have some hours left and he's not coming back anytime soon, I'd rather pressure some other people.


Not exactly sure what you're saying here, do you think I went back to voting Flo? If you read the top of my last post, I unvoted for Flo. Like you said, more pressure could be applied to others right now, and I do think he's a useless townie at this point, hence why I took my vote off of him.
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Reply #68 - 03/18/14 at 15:53:31
 
Oh sorry, it's because you wrote his name so I assumed it was a vote. As far as I'm aware just writing "unvote" is necessary but fair enough as it makes it easier to track.

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Reply #69 - 03/18/14 at 15:55:47
 
It's all good. Yeah I thought it was that way too, but Tom had it written out in rule #7 to use "Unvote: Name", so I was just following his rules. Everybody else seems to be just saying "unvote" though instead, so I guess I'll just start following that.
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Pulsar wrote on 03/01/07 at 21:39:23:
Spazzup u cunt...you were gonna hoard this strat...needledick!

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Reply #70 - 03/18/14 at 15:56:02
 
I was asking for a role claim because if everyone's gonna get on the bandwagon (which I found pretty amusing), and he's an important role, we would probably think twice about the risk factor involved.
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Reply #71 - 03/18/14 at 15:58:41
 
DJT wrote on 03/18/14 at 15:56:02:
I was asking for a role claim because if everyone's gonna get on the bandwagon (which I found pretty amusing), and he's an important role, we would probably think twice about the risk factor involved.


It seems crazy still to ask for a role call though. The reason people had been voting for him (myself included) was because he had yet to post, and we wanted him to be active. Once he posted, people were willing to take their votes off of him, it seemed pretty clear that was all it took to "stop" the bandwagon.


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Reply #72 - 03/18/14 at 16:02:11
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/18/14 at 15:19:17:
Everything day 1 is a crap shoot.  I'm just going by the "vibe" of your posts.  If that makes any sense. Odds are i'm wrong, but who knows.  


This always seems to be your strategy coming into these games, so I can't even say that it's scummy. All I know is that your claim for me at least isn't correct, though I wouldn't know about Shock. I wish you could provide a bit more actual analysis to substantiate your claims, but I'll take what I can get.
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Reply #73 - 03/18/14 at 16:05:24
 
Shock wrote on 03/18/14 at 13:52:11:
Roleclaiming at this point in the game is beyond stupid. He'd die overnight and nothing would come of it. He wasn't even close yet to getting lynched. Why the hell would a townie in his right mind even attempt to bring such secrets to light? But asking for a roleclaim before he's even posted??


Well, chances are there's a doctor, and at least one of them would save Flo, even if it is himself.

I'm not new to Mafia, I'm relatively new to the way this forum plays it. Not used to knowing what goes on in your guys' minds.
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Reply #74 - 03/18/14 at 16:14:50
 
Hey guys, sorry for not having been around before but I forgot about the game until 5 minutes ago in the toilet where I checked the MB on my phone and saw this thread Grin

That aside, I'll read the whole thread now and then post some more.
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TvK wrote on 05/27/14 at 03:07:54:
You should all listen to Timur. He's an onion.



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