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Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Day 7 - 48 hours (Read 7156 times)
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #300 - 03/24/14 at 12:57:22
 
Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 11:10:07:
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 07:03:21:
My job is to find the mafia and lynch the mafia, not to prove to you all that you can trust me. Clearly you guys went on your own two days in a row and look where that got you.

This is likely 6-4.

Vote: No lynch.


Uh no.

Clearly we guys went on our own because you fucking didn't even contribute aside from"ok lynch Sportsguy bye". Don't give us the fault for wrong lynches when you haven't helped us getting away from that lynch. If you're Town then that's just as much your fault as anyone else's.

And about no lynching: I strongly recommend not to no lynch. Just an example:

If there are 4 Mafia, then it's 6-4 now.

The thing is, our doctor is still alive, so we have a chance at no kill at night. If we mislynch today and our doctor saves someone we're at 5-4 and still can lynch again.

Now if we no lynch today, it's 5-4. If we mislynch it's over. Even if the doctor saves the right person it will still be 4-4 and it will be over.

Conclusion: DO NOT NO LYNCH


You assume we even HAVE a doctor in a low power game. Get your head out of your ass and vote to no lynch.
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #301 - 03/24/14 at 12:59:38
 
Fank009 wrote on 03/24/14 at 11:36:09:
Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 11:28:19:
Also how are we supposed to get any information about anyone if they don't post. Brett has like 4 posts, Lock Blahpy Silver and J-Cop have like 10 posts combined and the rest is posting jack shit, shock is dead, Brett is wanting us to no lynch, fank is playing the dumb, really I don't know what the heck this game is.

I'm trying my best but this is bullshit.

At least Flo is posting more regulary now so even if he's on the wrong track with me he seems to be giving a fuck about this game.


Zwiebel, with a sleepy fank, all you get is ...

It doesnt help when you create the bullshit... (somewhat)

Flo, is actuallly playing and posting good thoughts (suprise there). I still don't agree with all his thought processes, but it's getting there

and that reminds me, Sportsguy, are we still lynching Flo today?


I thoroughly read your post.  Yes Flo is still mafia.  

Everyone should be convinced that i'm town.  I claimed to be Dee Jay and no one counter claimed.  It's obvious that Dee Jay is a character that would be in this game.  And as bad as the town (me included) is playing someone would have counter claimed to get a mafia member gone.  
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #302 - 03/24/14 at 13:02:03
 
If you're town why didn't mafia CC you? Free mislynch and Lafungo would still have his head on the chopping block. That's what I'd have done.
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #303 - 03/24/14 at 13:03:02
 
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 12:57:22:
Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 11:10:07:
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 07:03:21:
My job is to find the mafia and lynch the mafia, not to prove to you all that you can trust me. Clearly you guys went on your own two days in a row and look where that got you.

This is likely 6-4.

Vote: No lynch.


Uh no.

Clearly we guys went on our own because you fucking didn't even contribute aside from"ok lynch Sportsguy bye". Don't give us the fault for wrong lynches when you haven't helped us getting away from that lynch. If you're Town then that's just as much your fault as anyone else's.

And about no lynching: I strongly recommend not to no lynch. Just an example:

If there are 4 Mafia, then it's 6-4 now.

The thing is, our doctor is still alive, so we have a chance at no kill at night. If we mislynch today and our doctor saves someone we're at 5-4 and still can lynch again.

Now if we no lynch today, it's 5-4. If we mislynch it's over. Even if the doctor saves the right person it will still be 4-4 and it will be over.

Conclusion: DO NOT NO LYNCH


You assume we even HAVE a doctor in a low power game. Get your head out of your ass and vote to no lynch.


There is a 40% chance we lynch a mafia member.  We only gain 15% chance of a mafia lynch if we vote no lynch.  

It's definitely no worth it.
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #304 - 03/24/14 at 13:06:03
 
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:02:03:
If you're town why didn't mafia CC you? Free mislynch and Lafungo would still have his head on the chopping block. That's what I'd have done.


?  They lose a member if they counter claim against me.

So flo counter claims and i'm lynched.  I come up town, then he is lynched the next day.  

They still have all the members so it would been stupid to counter claim.
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Reply #305 - 03/24/14 at 13:09:09
 
Today = 4/10 = 40% chance of lynching mafia.

Tomorrow = 4/9 = 44.4% chance of lynching a mafia.

Assuming we NL.

Today = 60% chance we lose the game right off the bat.

Tomorrow = 55.5% chance we lose the game right off the bat.

Also Flo CCing you would be fine since you get lynched, then he gets lynched, then Lafungo gets lynched, 3 towns lynched = mafia automatically wins. Why not waste a stupid fuck like Flo for that? He's useless otherwise.
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #306 - 03/24/14 at 13:10:08
 
Either way I'm not voting Flo.
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Reply #307 - 03/24/14 at 13:13:35
 
Why are you so sure we have no doc? For a 16 people setup 1 Doc 1 Scanner would be low power to me. I mean we can't say for sure, but your odds don't match up if you take into account the chances of us having a doctor, which isn't as low as you make it out to be.

Don't know if actually trying or trying to finish off Town fast. I like how you literally posted nothing D2 and now you come blame us for lynching wrong people and then suggesting no lynch? I don't know Brett, really.



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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #308 - 03/24/14 at 13:15:27
 
Also, IF you are so sure that there is no doc then why don't we just all character claim? There should be at least one counterclaim which gives us 50/50 chance of lynching the right person. I don't say we should do it, just some thinking I'm doing right now.
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #309 - 03/24/14 at 13:17:57
 
If there's cop and doc that makes the cop unstoppable unless mafia happens to have a roleblocker too, which seems to be kinda middlish in terms of power.

By unstoppable I mean as long is doc is alive the mafia can't stop the cop from getting reports.

I'm certainly not taking credit for the Lafungo lynch nor the TvK lynch especially when both wagons happened while I was asleep although the TvK wagon was understandable. However Lafungo's lynch was bad.

Yeah I'm mafia trying to finish off town fast, which is why I'm pushing for NL instead of lynch today.

I've still posted more than half the people in the game have anyway. What has blahpy done? What has Lock done? What has Silver done? They're all still alive and heck, the last game I played I was the top poster and your stupid ass lynched me D1 while I proceeded to nail the entire mafia team.
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Reply #310 - 03/24/14 at 13:18:53
 
I like the character claim idea especially since there's 2 already claimed characters but if the rest of everyone isn't up for it then I'll have claimed for literally no reason.
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #311 - 03/24/14 at 13:33:51
 
I don't know. As you said, before even considering it we should hear from everybody.

Also I still don't understand why people sign up for Mafia games when they are fucking unable to post more than 2 times a day. It's just miserable.
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #312 - 03/24/14 at 13:37:38
 
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:18:53:
I like the character claim idea especially since there's 2 already claimed characters but if the rest of everyone isn't up for it then I'll have claimed for literally no reason.


Whose the other?
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Reply #313 - 03/24/14 at 13:39:13
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:37:38:
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:18:53:
I like the character claim idea especially since there's 2 already claimed characters but if the rest of everyone isn't up for it then I'll have claimed for literally no reason.


Whose the other?


... Why did we keep sportsguy over lafungo again???
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Re: Super Street Fighter 2 Mafia - Night 2 - 24 ho
Reply #314 - 03/24/14 at 13:40:11
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:37:38:
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:18:53:
I like the character claim idea especially since there's 2 already claimed characters but if the rest of everyone isn't up for it then I'll have claimed for literally no reason.


Whose the other?


Are you reading the game? Silver claimed E-Honda on D1 Smiley
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Reply #315 - 03/24/14 at 13:44:36
 
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprise if Mafia is like Silver/J-Cop/Lock/Blahpy and they're just waiting for us to finish ourselves off.

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Reply #316 - 03/24/14 at 13:47:29
 
Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:40:11:
Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:37:38:
Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:18:53:
I like the character claim idea especially since there's 2 already claimed characters but if the rest of everyone isn't up for it then I'll have claimed for literally no reason.


Whose the other?


Are you reading the game? Silver claimed E-Honda on D1 Smiley



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Reply #317 - 03/24/14 at 14:04:22
 
quick thoughts/snark in terms of the phase so far

Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 07:03:21:
My job is to find the mafia and lynch the mafia, not to prove to you all that you can trust me. Clearly you guys went on your own two days in a row and look where that got you.

This is likely 6-4.

Vote: No lynch.

Mr worst case scenario... somewhat of a town lean for advocating no lynch at possible mylo. (I'll explain later)

Fant0m wrote on 03/24/14 at 09:47:16:
Locky wrote on 03/17/14 at 21:32:12:
blahpy wrote on 03/17/14 at 20:41:45:
I've been spending all of my time busy sleeping and attending lectures since this started, but at leas tI have some posts to read now!


Vote: Blahpy

Any thoughts so far?

Yeah, this was just a bullshit vote from you Lock...

It's about as a bs vote as any on day 1. so many bs votes d1, yet this is more bs than the other? I take it as somewhat null, but you do have a point about lock (though you could say that about anyone really).

Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 12:28:58:
I just realized that Timothy has been under the radar the whole game, also he made the tie between sportsguy and Lafungo so someone could vote in favor of Lafungo.

Hello there...

blahpy wrote on 03/24/14 at 12:52:19:
Well, fuck.  Look how wrong I was.

No shit sherlock

Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 12:57:22:
You assume we even HAVE a doctor in a low power game. Get your head out of your ass and vote to no lynch.

Mr worst case scenario again, this time a scum lean. (too much information???)

Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/24/14 at 12:59:38:
I thoroughly read your post.  Yes Flo is still mafia.  

Everyone should be convinced that i'm town.  I claimed to be Dee Jay and no one counter claimed.  It's obvious that Dee Jay is a character that would be in this game.  And as bad as the town (me included) is playing someone would have counter claimed to get a mafia member gone.  

-still same old story

Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:02:03:
If you're town why didn't mafia CC you? Free mislynch and Lafungo would still have his head on the chopping block. That's what I'd have done.

^ The only reason people got off you was because you were uncc'd. maf is once bitten twice shy???
(I'm also sure there's a shock post somewhere about maf sacrificing one of their own here?

Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:33:51:
I don't know. As you said, before even considering it we should hear from everybody.

Also I still don't understand why people sign up for Mafia games when they are fucking unable to post more than 2 times a day. It's just miserable.

I know that feeling...

Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:03:02:
There is a 40% chance we lynch a mafia member.  We only gain 15% chance of a mafia lynch if we vote no lynch.  

It's definitely no worth it.


Sportsguy is obviously not reading the thread... no townies that you can lean? Lynching someone isnt like drawing a number out of the hat... everyone has their own opinions and interactions, and that skews odds depending on more interactions

basically the math lies. (I.E. from my point of view, it goes from 4/7 to possibly 4/6 if we no lynch (best case scenario) (granted those odds could go nowhere)))

Robertvz wrote on 03/24/14 at 13:18:53:
I like the character claim idea especially since there's 2 already claimed characters but if the rest of everyone isn't up for it then I'll have claimed for literally no reason.

Hey look, more town points...

Also... good to see you back brett, you feeling better?
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Reply #318 - 03/24/14 at 14:12:28
 
well the thing is, we don't know if the Mafia has a "safe claim list". As long as we do not know that not being counter claimed doesn't mean you're Town so far. The thing is, if we all claim it should become obvious if there's such a list or not(depending on people getting cc'd or not).

Also if we mass claim the suspected people should claim first.
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Reply #319 - 03/24/14 at 14:15:11
 
Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 14:12:28:
well the thing is, we don't know if the Mafia has a "safe claim list". As long as we do not know that not being counter claimed doesn't mean you're Town so far. The thing is, if we all claim it should become obvious if there's such a list or not(depending on people getting cc'd or not).

Also if we mass claim the suspected people should claim first.



The way Tom is running the game, it's highly unlikely he gave them a safe claim list.
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Reply #320 - 03/24/14 at 14:19:10
 
Sportsguy001 wrote on 03/24/14 at 14:15:11:
Zwiebel wrote on 03/24/14 at 14:12:28:
well the thing is, we don't know if the Mafia has a "safe claim list". As long as we do not know that not being counter claimed doesn't mean you're Town so far. The thing is, if we all claim it should become obvious if there's such a list or not(depending on people getting cc'd or not).

Also if we mass claim the suspected people should claim first.



The way Tom is running the game, it's highly unlikely he gave them a safe claim list.  



We can't know for sure. Only Maf can.

Also the more I think about it the more I like the idea of everyone claiming character names really. I think it might really be the best thing to do at this point.

Also if we're claiming only character names it might be that, even if we have a power role left, it might not be that obviously linked to the character.

So, if we're claiming, we should ONLY claim character names I guess.
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Reply #321 - 03/24/14 at 14:20:45
 
Also Silver, everyone can see you online at the "online" list, stop lurking.
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Reply #322 - 03/24/14 at 14:23:28
 
Some quick research, there is only 16 characters in Super Street Fighter 2.
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Reply #323 - 03/24/14 at 14:30:28
 
Looks like there is 4 "bad" characters in super street fighter 2.  Balrog, Vega, Sagat, and M. Bison.

So there might be 2 safe claims.
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Reply #324 - 03/24/14 at 14:51:17
 
Yeah I saw the 8 regular roles then realized there were 10 likely townies so it didn't add up.

All twelve characters from the previous Street Fighter II games returned, with many having their basic and special techniques refined to adjust the overall balance.[1] Some of the characters received new special techniques such as Ryu's Fire Hadōken (renamed Shakunetsu Hadōken in the Street Fighter Alpha series), a flaming Shoryuken for Ken, Zangief's Atomic Buster and M. Bison's Devil Reverse.
Four new characters were also introduced to the game in addition to the returning roster, expanding the number of playable characters to sixteen. The new characters include T. Hawk, an indigenous warrior from Mexico whose ancestral homeland was taken from him by Shadaloo; Cammy, a 19-year-old female special forces agent from England with a mysterious past tied to M. Bison; Fei Long, a Hong Kong movie star who wishes to test his martial arts against real opponents; and Dee Jay, a kickboxing musician from Jamaica seeking inspiration for his next song.[1]

I took that above paragraph directly from wikipedia.

Cammy is dead (Shock)
Dee Jay is claimed by you
Fei Long was killed by Tom in the opening post

That leaves T Hawk, the 8 normal characters, Cammy, and Dee Jay.

That's 11 feasible claims in 10 town roles this game.

It's likely a mass character claim will make several clears, or at least produce several CC battles.

What do you all say?
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