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Reply #25 - 03/11/14 at 23:50:19
 
★rusoX wrote on 03/11/14 at 18:58:17:
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NicholasRen wrote on 03/10/14 at 19:10:43:
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/blue-shell-confirmed-for-mario-kart-8.45311...

Looks like it'll stick around for MK8 Sad Hopefully the next MK doesn't have it


"0.5-1 blue shells per race". Seems fair to me.

I just hope that from now on they will patch the game if some item/character is over/under powered.


Still too much. I'm think 0.125-0.25 times per race, or 0.5-1.0 per Grand Prix. The blue shell needs to be a rare item if not eliminated from the game completely.
are you high? I understand that getting blued 5 times in a race is too much (MKW) but 1 blue or even none per GP? No.

A no-BS race sometimes happen you know. Even on MKW Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - 03/12/14 at 07:52:55
 
^ Now you've mentioned blueless races, I had online races without that bitchy shell. Of course not logical when it comes to MKW logic Roll Eyes (if it had logic, lol)

Don't forget that for every Blue Shell we get, that there's always a way to do a BSD Smiley (if MK8 allows it Grin)


Just a crazy thought... the sentence in MK8 section on the main page still says "Popular with fans of DKR", but since we now know it isn't DKR, we'll need a fitting sentence for it.

So I had in mind "Popular with Blue Shells" Smiley (hence why I said it was a crazy thought)
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Reply #27 - 03/12/14 at 09:30:55
 
Yoshistar™ wrote on 03/12/14 at 07:52:55:
^ Now you've mentioned blueless races, I had online races without that bitchy shell. Of course not logical when it comes to MKW logic Roll Eyes (if it had logic, lol)

Don't forget that for every Blue Shell we get, that there's always a way to do a BSD Smiley (if MK8 allows it Grin)


Just a crazy thought... the sentence in MK8 section on the main page still says "Popular with fans of DKR", but since we now know it isn't DKR, we'll need a fitting sentence for it.

So I had in mind "Popular with Blue Shells" Smiley (hence why I said it was a crazy thought)


Nah, the other 'popular with' phrases refer to people groups or James Cameron.
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Reply #28 - 03/12/14 at 09:57:40
 
^ Just a crazy thought that I like to share Roll Eyes

Now suddenly I got a newsletter from Nintendo about MK8, nice trailers. But I lost hope already after seeing coins being yet again part of the game... I prefer no coins damnit! Except for GP, because it makes feel you rich Smiley

I wonder if they add Missions like they did in MKDS, but also VS race since that mode wasn't for MK7... anyone wants to have these 2 modes too?
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Reply #29 - 03/12/14 at 11:57:47
 
Some sort of mission mode wouldn't go amiss. I mean 7 games of pretty much the same limited options is getting old now considering how Rare showed just how rich a 1player experience could be squeezed from a racer. Of corse with multiplayer being the main draw it's less of an issue but it would be nice to have a bit more of a lasting single player experience
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Reply #30 - 03/12/14 at 15:18:21
 
The blue shell, as much as people don't want to admit it, is more often than not pretty justified. At the start of a race, one player breaks through without getting hit in the initial chaos, they collect 10 coins and get a lead, ofcourse long before then they have defence and an item in reserve. They can also happily collect every coin on the direct path to punish players who are behind even further and force them to go wide. Yet this occurs pretty much every race whether the player that doesn't get hit is a good player or not. No matter how good a player you are, catching up to someone with 10 coins while not being able to collect any is a tall if not impossible feat, their lead will only increase so long as they're playing normally. People using a balanced combo vs people using a speed combo only compounds the problem. The game would make if anything even less sense without the blue. They've tried to change it but still seem to be experimenting, my bet is they haven't shown it yet because they changed it and want to keep the change a secret.
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Reply #31 - 03/12/14 at 23:46:22
 
I'd suggest popular with "old karters" implying "karters from the past".
Indeed, many old MKDS, MKSC, MKDD and MKW players skipped the following MKs, but are actually going to join the MK8 community. Cheesy
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Reply #32 - 03/13/14 at 01:22:21
 
"Popular with old farts" Smiley

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couldn't resist it....
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Reply #33 - 03/13/14 at 09:36:18
 
The blue shell blast radius will probably be increased due to the increased power of the Wii U Hardware.
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Reply #34 - 03/13/14 at 12:47:34
 
^ Nah, if they like to increase the radius, then MKDS would be pretty fucked up if they did Roll Eyes

On the other note, deciding the radius of it's radius would be funny too... nuclear bomb effect for instance Smiley
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Reply #35 - 03/13/14 at 19:07:43
 
Sarger wrote on 03/13/14 at 09:36:18:
The blue shell blast radius will probably be increased due to the increased power of the Wii U Hardware.


Are you serious. The hitbox value has nothing to do with hardware limitation. An increase in the number of entities is something that is handled by more powerful hardware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ZhyZlqCPE

It's just a numerical value in the game's coding. Same goes for all the other MKs, and will be the same for '8.
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Reply #36 - 03/13/14 at 23:09:44
 
lol, I was joking.
But it probably will happen.
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Reply #37 - 03/14/14 at 11:01:26
 
Sarcasm clearly a dying art there
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Reply #38 - 03/15/14 at 15:24:06
 
^ Something tells me that that was sarcasm Smiley

I prefer hard BSDs than impossible BSDs, easy ones are boring Roll Eyes
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Reply #39 - 03/27/14 at 11:42:37
 
I take back everything I said, I never owned a Wii and as such MKWii was the only kart I never played. Having spent a few hours on it now oh wow are the items overkill on that. Hit by 5 blue shells in one race :p I think it's beyond hope now that Nintendo will ever go back to how things once were. Oh and it's quite piss poor corse design on the Wii too
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Reply #40 - 03/27/14 at 11:53:48
 
MG is fucking annoying in the cave Undecided
But you get no Blue Shell races, it's just a matter of getting dozens of them first Roll Eyes
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Reply #41 - 03/30/14 at 15:10:00
 
I personally haven't minded the blue shell except when it hits me in the 3rd lap because that always sucks online. I hope they keep it for the first 2 laps because that's always kind of fun. But 3rd lap it completely sucks.
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Reply #42 - 04/03/14 at 11:53:22
 
In MKWii, the blue shell was fine for me, but in MK7 it was atrocious Undecided
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Reply #43 - 04/03/14 at 14:04:11
 
Looking at the latest vids, it seems to act the same way it does in 7.
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Reply #44 - 04/03/14 at 22:45:30
 
Rodriguezjr wrote on 04/03/14 at 14:04:11:
Looking at the latest vids, it seems to act the same way it does in 7.

Pretty sure it's a bit better than in MK7 as it won't stick to the ground 100% of the time.
We'll see if the game confirms my opinion.
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Reply #45 - 04/04/14 at 01:32:58
 
Videos show the hitstun was greatly reduced. It's like hitting a banana.

Also, you don't roll to the side like on MK7.
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Reply #46 - 04/04/14 at 02:11:28
 
Nicola wrote on 04/04/14 at 01:32:58:
Videos show the hitstun was greatly reduced. It's like hitting a banana.

Also, you don't roll to the side like on MK7.


Indeed, both the blue shell and the bomb don't send you in the air anymore. However the star and the bullet bill still do, but not as high as before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmb2Ri3DtcU : blue shell hit @ 1:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9JASDgJPmU : star hit @ 0:18 and bomb hit @ 0:49

Actually the hitstun for all items seems to have been slightly reduced. My guess is it is to prevent players to abuse Lakitu warping which would more often be faster than taking a hit had they kept the MK7 properties of the item. Someone should try to make a video highlighting the changes.

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Reply #47 - 04/09/14 at 07:13:37
 
The blue shell is one of the more important items in the game imo
It depends a bit on the skill of the players in the race, but it is important for balance.
Being in 1st is very advantageous, you should be able to pull away as you can drop items on racing lines, and not be caught up by the chaos going on around you.  Online races between good players on a lot of tracks would be decided by the 1st corner in MKW..  also as 1st in one race means you start pole for the next race, someone could dominate for multiple races enjoying the 'clean air' out front.

It's a variance inducer and will be unfair a lot, but I think it's a necessary evil.
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Reply #48 - 04/09/14 at 07:17:30
 
Mick wrote on 04/04/14 at 02:11:28:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9JASDgJPmU : star hit @ 0:18 and bomb hit @ 0:49

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