So will the PAL version still be available for download over there? It just seems strange to me that in the future all the new European SMK players might be NTSC, and the only way to get PAL would be through the original SNES cartridge, or the original Wii's VC (assuming it's still being offered).

Sarger wrote on 03/11/14 at 02:20:22:

Not a problem, you can purchase Nintendo Points using a credit card, so the PAL version will remain available on both Wii and Wii U until Nintendo closes the Wii Shop Channel.

hahaae wrote on 03/19/14 at 12:37:40:

The Wii Shop Channel is not available on the Wii Mini, as it can't connect to the Internet at all anyway.

Will this be a real emulator-like savestate? Not just like it was on the original Wii Virtual Console?

How crappy this is.

Harvey Kartel wrote on 03/20/14 at 02:23:17:

Yep but as long as those times will be performed on the Wii U Virtual Console they won't be recognized as genuine successive 5 PJs.

The release comes in a week, does Sami know about this yet?  

I don't have a WiiU myself - and don't even have access to one that can go online (a friend has one, but they've no internet...), so thankfully the WiiU Virtual Console save states doesn't affect me.

Mick wrote on 03/24/14 at 05:20:27:


This still takes all the challenge out of achievements like the 5/5 PJ on GV1. The player can just make the savestate on the straightaway where the finish line is. I'm sure you'll still get a pretty fast time with little effort if you save after each successful platform jump.

Have we heard anything on this from Sami yet?

IMO putting savestates in their VC games was a really stupid move on Nintendo's part. Not only will this take the challenge out of SMK, it'll take the challenge out of every game released to the Wii U VC. You'll be able to finish even the hardest games just by save-scumming your way through them. Like, say, restart a stage from right before the boss, when you were originally supposed to restart the entire stage when you died (not to mention losing your supply of extra lives!). That just isn't how these games were meant to be played.  

We'll have to specify in the Joining Info section of the SMK Player's Page that the Wii VC version is allowed, but the Wii U version isn't. There may already be players trying to join this week with Wii U times, we need to let them know as soon as possible before they waste all their time playing on Wii U for times they can't legitimately submit.
In the event that an original Wii VC game can be transferred to a Wii U, and mid-race saving can then be done, we'll simply have to make the rule say that this game cannot be played on a Wii U.

Worst comes to worst, I guess PAL players can just use the Wii U version of SMK to practice NTSC (for when they're finally able to procure an NTSC copy of the game), just like I used the ZSNES to practice PAL  

The joining info page il speak to Alex to do an adjustment plus a note in the update. Then if anyone turns up trying to join with it and asking questions we can just let them know and encourage them to get a snes if they are keen for competition. If they just want to play for casual fun and not TTs or competitive racing then they won't probably join us anyway. Lets see.

Nick dont worry im sure players won't spend a ridiculous amount of hours in the first week.

Overall, yeh a shame that they have done this plus making the games generally easier over time except a few bits. I guess they didn't think of our situation here, not anyone's fault though.

A friend of mine asked if me and other top SMK players who have a Wii U could buy it and ruin the Miiverse leaderboards (if some happen to be created)