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Reply #25 - 12/20/13 at 05:50:18
 
Everything makes you fail runs. In MKDS you can fail a run several times per second (i.e. miss an MT).
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Reply #26 - 12/20/13 at 09:43:50
 
The problem with coins is more like they take way too long to respawn, meaning only the very first players can get them (or the very late noobs). Which mean those players are even more rewarded even though they are not necessarily the best racers, since grabbing those coins does not take any skills (with some exceptions such as the airborne coins in Wario Shipyard).

But it wouldn't hurt to have more coins overall on the tracks as well. And considering the number of simultaneous karters and the size of the tracks (especially with the surprising number of alternative paths shown so far) this is very likely going to happen.
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Reply #27 - 12/20/13 at 14:33:51
 
For me the biggest problem related to races/battles is that you get to see other people's items on the Wii U GamePad screen, which made item guessing/bluff/etc. irrelevant in previous games with this feature, but this time it's even worse because if you play with another controller or in off-TV play mode you won't be able to see this information. Talk about balance.
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Reply #28 - 12/21/13 at 06:04:29
 
It was a balanced and good feature in MKDS and MK7 that made races much less random (especially in MKDS), but if only some players will be able to see items in MK8 then it'll be unbalanced
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Reply #29 - 12/21/13 at 06:32:09
 
TBH it should only really matter when you're using 2 players on the same TV because what the hell is the point in using the Pro Controller when the gamepad is pretty much exactly the same thing but with a screen?
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Reply #30 - 12/21/13 at 08:27:34
 
Some people prefer to use other controllers if they find them to be more comfortable
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Reply #31 - 12/21/13 at 09:08:45
 
^This.
The only thing is that they won't have any "bottom screen" to watch then...
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Reply #32 - 12/21/13 at 13:51:45
 
So there are still many issues on this game, I guess... Undecided
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Reply #33 - 12/21/13 at 22:01:19
 
I can really see the gamepad-users getting a hugely unfair advantage over pro controller-users, with the second screen and all.  Undecided
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Reply #34 - 12/23/13 at 01:41:51
 
Leone wrote on 12/21/13 at 22:01:19:
I can really see the gamepad-users getting a hugely unfair advantage over pro controller-users, with the second screen and all.  Undecided

I do not feel that the Pro Controller is comfortable so I guess I'm one with that huge advantage.

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Reply #35 - 12/23/13 at 17:13:09
 
Here's the usual GameXplain analysis of the trailer with some really neat details, like the conveyer belts in Sunshine Airport or the glowing orbs in Cloudtop Cruise warning you of incoming lightning in the dark cloud.

Also, mind blown at 13:50 !
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Reply #36 - 12/25/13 at 09:51:14
 
Except being able to see peoples' items ruined online, Nicola. There's no way you can tell me that you've never seen people just stop and wait for someone to pass them simply because they see a blue shell. I haven't even touched this game that much and I've seen it happen.
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Reply #37 - 12/25/13 at 12:50:40
 
hahaae wrote on 12/25/13 at 09:51:14:
Except being able to see peoples' items ruined online, Nicola. There's no way you can tell me that you've never seen people just stop and wait for someone to pass them simply because they see a blue shell. I haven't even touched this game that much and I've seen it happen.

so? that’s all part of the strategy, exactly because you haven’t played it much you think it’s shit, if you actually played it properly you’d learn the strategy behind it
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Reply #38 - 12/25/13 at 12:57:10
 
Strategy??? Let everyone at the front halt the race because they can see each others items? That isn't strategy, that's just bullshit. Strategy is predicting what people's items are, how and when they will use them, which is something that MKW had going for it. But you've never actually touched the game on a serious level, so I doubt you'd know anything about all that.
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Reply #39 - 12/25/13 at 13:36:58
 
never claimed I knew anything about MKW strategy, but you’re claiming shit about MK7’s
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Reply #40 - 12/25/13 at 13:55:11
 
That's because there is no strategy is just stopping once someone gets a blue shell. If that's how pathetic the strategy is, then all it does is show how poorly both coins and the ability to view other people's items were implemented.
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Reply #41 - 12/25/13 at 15:39:55
 
hahaae wrote on 12/25/13 at 13:55:11:
That's because there is no strategy is just stopping once someone gets a blue shell. If that's how pathetic the strategy is, then all it does is show how poorly both coins and the ability to view other people's items were implemented.


There are more than enough ways to dodge a blue shell. If you stop, then probably someone who can dodge the BS is going on front. If no one has a dodge it will get funny, but that rarely happens. Even then, you can dodge most of the BS damage in certain spots by falling down and respawning in a good position.

MK7's problem isn't what you're trying to say. There's no reason to not show the items of the other persons. I don't know much about MKW either, but MK7 system in that sense isn't bad, it still has a lot of ways for strategical play. If you've never played it, don't judge it.
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Reply #42 - 12/31/13 at 16:03:04
 
Happy new year for all your karting! MK8 coming soon Cheesy
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Reply #43 - 01/01/14 at 00:59:29
 
mmm... probably not.
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Reply #44 - 01/05/14 at 08:49:26
 
My opinion about mk8 so far is; it looks like a updated version of mk7 indeed, but idm tbh. I like mk7 :p
All I hope is that there will be time trail rankings. I also hope that the VR system isn't shit just like mk7.. It takes way to much time to get max vr...
Let's say +100vr for winning a race against players with 10000 more points then you instead of +45 :/
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Reply #45 - 01/05/14 at 09:46:55
 
Olifré wrote on 01/05/14 at 08:49:26:
Let's say +100vr for winning a race against players with 10000 more points then you instead of +45 :/

lol are you serious

I hope they’ll finally stop putting a max VR, so if someone wants to be “the highest VR” they’ll actually have to play instead of reaching a max and staying there
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Reply #46 - 01/05/14 at 16:26:53
 
ALAKTORN wrote on 01/05/14 at 09:46:55:
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Let's say +100vr for winning a race against players with 10000 more points then you instead of +45 :/

lol are you serious

I hope they’ll finally stop putting a max VR, so if someone wants to be “the highest VR” they’ll actually have to play instead of reaching a max and staying there

Then having the highest VR would just be a matter of nolifing, which is already the case with MK7, and which I doubt is what Nintendo really support.
An ELO-like rating system would definitely be the best option competitively speaking, but let's be real: it's never going to happen. I think the main reason is because MK still is a luck based game; ie you're going to lose quite often, even while being one of the best player, which makes hierarchy quite meaningless. Such a system just can't fit to MK (at least, relatively to the gameplay the game has nowadays... with MKDS online mode / gameplay, it could have been possible xD ) because there's too much randomness.

Thus I think the current system (having a max VR) is very likely to stay.
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Reply #47 - 01/05/14 at 18:40:40
 
I never said I cared about good players getting recognition, I just want to stop seeing maxes and actually see the people who do nothing but Wi-Fi all day
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Reply #48 - 01/07/14 at 22:56:12
 
Considering that the Wii U gamepad must be on to play the Wii U, I'm pretty sure that you'll still be able to use it to check items and still use a different controller. Also someone mentioned multi channel background returning from MKW, but I'm pretty sure its in MK7 too for underwater parts like rKC, PPS, etc. Maybe I'm just not understanding you.
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Reply #49 - 01/09/14 at 15:34:12
 
Rookie wrote on 01/07/14 at 22:56:12:
Also someone mentioned multi channel background returning from MKW, but I'm pretty sure its in MK7 too for underwater parts like rKC, PPS, etc. Maybe I'm just not understanding you.


I was merely pointing out that multi-channel tracks are in MK8, not that they were not in MK7 (on a side note – the river version of Koopa Cape was removed in Mario Kart 7).

I am also concerned they might now show other racers' names on the main screen because in the E3 demo CPU did not have their names displayed (in Mario Kart Wii they are). That would be yet another dumb move, but after MK7 nothing surprises me anymore
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