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Vanilla Lake 2 NBT
10/04/13 at 06:15:55
 
Is it possible for anyone to get a VL2 WR or CR with one NBT boost?
I would like to see someone doing that! Grin
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Re: Vanilla Lake 2 NBT
Reply #1 - 10/04/13 at 07:36:51
 
Not only it's almost impossible to get a boost that saves time on VL2, but even if someone ever managed to get some advantage from it, this would totally ruin the purity of the only 100% non-NBT track...
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Reply #2 - 10/04/13 at 07:43:13
 
Agree 100% with Mario. Very bad and pointless idea.
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Reply #3 - 10/04/13 at 08:43:46
 
Huh? Since when were you guys against NBT? If someone managed to do it advantageously, it should of course be allowed...That being unlikely to happen should be the reason for it not being used.
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Reply #4 - 10/04/13 at 08:50:39
 
Im with Jamie on this. Ok Fenner started this thread, so its doomed from the start. But since when has trying out new strats on old courses been a bad thing? The "purity" which Mario speaks of went out the window the day NBT was discovered.

Im sure you guys wouldnt of tried the strat Mick (was it Mick?) discovered on KB2 because to you it would seem "stupid and pointless".
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Reply #5 - 10/04/13 at 08:55:56
 
Zarkov wrote on 10/04/13 at 08:50:39:
Im with Jamie on this. Ok Fenner started this thread, so its doomed from the start. But since when has trying out new strats on old courses been a bad thing? The "purity" which Mario speaks of went out the window the day NBT was discovered.

Im sure you guys wouldnt of tried the strat Mick (was it Mick?) discovered on KB2 because to you it would seem "stupid and pointless".


Ok point taken, i change my mind Smiley

But KB2 is completely different (and impressive IMO), more of a sliding and boosting track anyway whereas VL2 is more rapid jumping and slightly less possible boost spots if you do a quick count while on the WR route.

It will always be allowed, that is never in question. We just personally prefer playing this as is, at least for now.
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Reply #6 - 10/04/13 at 09:04:36
 
Jamie White wrote on 10/04/13 at 08:43:46:
Huh? Since when were you guys against NBT? If someone managed to do it advantageously, it should of course be allowed...

Where have we said it was forbidden?

Of course it's allowed, it's just... stupid. Performing NBT on VL2 is a waste of time unless you're an average driven who doesn't perform ANY island jump, and wants to cut the snow part between the walls at the end of the track.
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Reply #7 - 10/04/13 at 09:35:49
 
Yeah, there was no question of whether or not it should be allowed, it was just a question of why you'd even want to do it since it doesn't help you at all.

I NBT that track just to keep stability since I'm awful at tracks with ice. I don't do it because it saves any time whatsoever.

And for the question at hand, I really don't see anywhere on the track where you could even build a boost to save time. And even if you could, where would you release it? It's a question of zz'ing through a straightaway enough to build, then finding a place to release it, which I just don't see. You're jumping too frequently to release a boost.
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Reply #8 - 10/04/13 at 10:12:49
 
A boost could be useful for getting speed for starting a flap, especially on PAL where it's quite a bit harder to begin the lap at top speed. I still don't do it though.
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Reply #9 - 10/04/13 at 10:25:36
 
Basically NBT VL2 is only of any real use in certain scenarios of Match Race and maybe GP. Come to the next CDM Nick and we will show you Wink
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Reply #10 - 10/04/13 at 12:53:28
 
Harvey Kartel wrote on 10/04/13 at 10:12:49:
A boost could be useful for getting speed for starting a flap, especially on PAL where it's quite a bit harder to begin the lap at top speed. I still don't do it though.

Once again it's useless for the WR strat since you have to start the lap jumping above the water, so a startboost would require to be much more on the right, and lose some time.
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Re: Vanilla Lake 2 NBT
Reply #11 - 10/04/13 at 14:42:22
 
Antistar wrote on 10/04/13 at 12:53:28:
Harvey Kartel wrote on 10/04/13 at 10:12:49:
A boost could be useful for getting speed for starting a flap, especially on PAL where it's quite a bit harder to begin the lap at top speed. I still don't do it though.

Once again it's useless for the WR strat since you have to start the lap jumping above the water, so a startboost would require to be much more on the right, and lose some time.


Well technically can't you hold a boost while jumping at the beginning and then set it off before jumping over the water where the pipes are?
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Reply #12 - 10/04/13 at 14:51:05
 
Hmm... maybe, I'll give it a try but I'm not convinced it'd save anything.
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Reply #13 - 10/04/13 at 15:02:02
 
For an flap I guess, but it'd be pointless in a 5-lap.
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Reply #14 - 10/04/13 at 15:03:54
 
Obviously. Wink
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Reply #15 - 10/05/13 at 14:50:42
 
Stop whinning.

NBT is the way. The only reason VL2 isn't a NBT record is Joe Bernier never put enough effort on it. Respect the true power of SMK.

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Reply #16 - 10/05/13 at 15:39:04
 
Hey Guilherme, you should set up a twitch account and we should organize some races together. What do you think?
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Reply #17 - 10/05/13 at 16:34:31
 
Can we try it when I'm sobber? AEHAEHAEAHEH... I'm game!
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Zarkov wrote on 04/20/11 at 08:43:53:
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Reply #18 - 10/06/13 at 00:36:51
 
Firewaster wrote on 10/05/13 at 14:50:42:
Stop whinning.

NBT is the way. The only reason VL2 isn't a NBT record is Joe Bernier never put enough effort on it. Respect the true power of SMK.

Come on, STFU and watch this again, you stupid ladyboy:

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Reply #19 - 10/06/13 at 04:49:38
 
I see no NBT there.
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Reply #20 - 10/06/13 at 06:27:07
 
Indeed, this is the best answer I could give to the shit you were posting above Kiss
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Reply #21 - 10/07/13 at 15:18:23
 
I remember one of the Japanese guys did a tas video on VL2 with a boost somewhere, but I forget what the time was.
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Reply #22 - 10/07/13 at 15:29:59
 
... but could you remember where the boost was?
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Reply #23 - 10/07/13 at 15:32:22
 
I think it was on the iced part of the track.
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Reply #24 - 10/08/13 at 10:41:20
 
The time was 8"52, no ?

And the boost was after first corner.
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