Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register    
 
smk mk64 mksc mkdd mkds mkwii mk7 mk8
general   mafia   smk   mk64   mksc   mkdd   mkds   mkw   mk7   mk8   |   problems   |   discord   irc
 
  Home Search Members Login Register
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day 1! (Read 1089 times)
hahaae
Titan
*****
Offline

post-psychedelia

retired 5324 times
Arkansas, USA
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #25 - 09/11/13 at 04:10:12
 
What are you implying here? Have both SC and non-SC charts or completely ban SC? If you're saying we should ban SC, then you're fucking stupid.

Signed, so long as it has both charts.

edit - Just realized I posted in this thread some time ago, with pretty much the exact same opinion lol.

That said, I would like to see both count toward the Combined Charts; whichever one benefits you more on combined points is the one that counts towards it. Having only 1 count towards combined is dumb, and has always been dumb.
Back to top
 
 

SMK: #15 NTSC
MKSC: #1 SC - #7 Non-SC
View Profile   IP Logged
Fant0m
Myth
*****
Offline

aka Flo

5943 days karting
Paris / France
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #26 - 09/11/13 at 05:26:38
 
Well, if you think about it, it isn't that dumb... because some people will only play nonSC and won't even bother playing SC. They shouldn't be disadvantaged compared to those who've sent their times for both charts. Some people don't like SCs. We can't do anything about it.
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW flo1fullmetal   IP Logged
Sam F
Ex Member




Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #27 - 09/11/13 at 11:59:00
 
I think there should be both charts, No SC shoudl be main though.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
hahaae
Titan
*****
Offline

post-psychedelia

retired 5324 times
Arkansas, USA
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #28 - 09/11/13 at 22:10:47
 
Fant0m wrote on 09/11/13 at 05:26:38:
Well, if you think about it, it isn't that dumb... because some people will only play nonSC and won't even bother playing SC. They shouldn't be disadvantaged compared to those who've sent their times for both charts. Some people don't like SCs. We can't do anything about it.


...you don't get it.
Back to top
 
 

SMK: #15 NTSC
MKSC: #1 SC - #7 Non-SC
View Profile   IP Logged
Fant0m
Myth
*****
Offline

aka Flo

drank 5943 beers
Paris / France
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #29 - 09/11/13 at 22:36:29
 
Well, what I've understood is that you would like to count in the combined charts both SC and nonSC charts. And I'm replying that it would give more points to the people who are in both charts compared to those who are just in the nonSC one.
If that's not what you said, then please clarify your point bro' Smiley
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW flo1fullmetal   IP Logged
hahaae
Titan
*****
Offline

post-psychedelia

retired 5324 times
Arkansas, USA
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #30 - 09/11/13 at 22:52:49
 
No, only one counts towards the rankings. The one you are ranked higher in (or the one you are in, if you choose not to play a category) is the one that counts.
Back to top
 
 

SMK: #15 NTSC
MKSC: #1 SC - #7 Non-SC
View Profile   IP Logged
Fant0m
Myth
*****
Offline

aka Flo

5943 days karting
Paris / France
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #31 - 09/11/13 at 23:48:18
 
Oh right I see, my bad then.
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW flo1fullmetal   IP Logged
stelzig
Legend
*****
Offline



7226 days karting
Arhus, Denmark
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #32 - 09/28/13 at 00:36:18
 
Some SC and glitches suck like many of the ones in mkw. I'm a bit surprised to see so strong support for this though lol.

But I guess it's fine as long as it is indeed seperate charts.

Inb4 less SCs than mkdd has and we get two identical leaderboards. Tongue
Back to top
 
 
View Profile stelzig   IP Logged
Marc474R
King
****
Offline



worships 4533 kartgods
Canada
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #33 - 11/28/13 at 10:11:44
 
It would be nice to have No-SC as main like in MK7, but not having SC charts at all seems to make the glitch tracks very underplayed... (looking at mk7)
Back to top
 
 
View Profile   IP Logged
hahaae
Titan
*****
Offline

post-psychedelia

retired 5324 times
Arkansas, USA
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #34 - 11/29/13 at 03:05:21
 
^Yeah, MK7 PP did just as bad as the MKW PP did in separate charts, just in the opposite way. The fact that there are none is pretty stupid and degrades the credibility of the site.
Back to top
 
 

SMK: #15 NTSC
MKSC: #1 SC - #7 Non-SC
View Profile   IP Logged
☆Sam F☆
Ex Member




Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #35 - 11/29/13 at 08:10:21
 
The only thing about MK7 PP is banning SC entirely.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
KingAlex
Ex Member




Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #36 - 11/29/13 at 12:18:48
 
hahaae wrote on 09/11/13 at 04:10:12:
What are you implying here? Have both SC and non-SC charts or completely ban SC? If you're saying we should ban SC, then you're fucking stupid.

Signed, so long as it has both charts.

edit - Just realized I posted in this thread some time ago, with pretty much the exact same opinion lol.

That said, I would like to see both count toward the Combined Charts; whichever one benefits you more on combined points is the one that counts towards it. Having only 1 count towards combined is dumb, and has always been dumb.


That's pretty clever, and would undoubtedly be the best solution
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Nicola
Titan
*****
Offline

MKDS will never die!

6910 days karting
Italy
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #37 - 11/29/13 at 19:01:41
 
I was actually thinking about implementing SC charts to MK7 recently, I have to see what I can do about it.
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW   IP Logged
☆Sam F☆
Ex Member




Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #38 - 11/30/13 at 00:39:47
 
Nicola wrote on 11/29/13 at 19:01:41:
I was actually thinking about implementing SC charts to MK7 recently, I have to see what I can do about it.

About time. Smiley
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Chuck Foster
King
****
Offline

__THAT__GUY__

6769 sex records
Texas, USA
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #39 - 01/02/14 at 13:45:07
 
blahpy wrote on 06/12/13 at 20:20:53:
I still feel like MKDS has the best system where people just play whichever chart they want to play more

That way most people play both since there's no bias against one


Yes, exactly. Two separate charts, but no "main" or "combined" chart. Just separate.
Back to top
 
 


Twitch / YouTube: ChuckNastee
View Profile herenthereguy405   IP Logged
Blackyboi
King
****
Offline



worships 4680 kartgods
Austria
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #40 - 01/10/14 at 21:01:08
 
Mix of MKW and MKDS System, as Ethan said, whichever is your more benefitting one is your chart, no official main chart and both being equal both having all times in it
Back to top
 
 

ALAKTORN wrote on 04/27/13 at 08:29:36:
it’s funny to see that Walter is always right in the end

View Profile   IP Logged
Fant0m
Myth
*****
Offline

aka Flo

5943 days karting
Paris / France
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #41 - 01/12/14 at 01:44:23
 
I was saying that even MKDS had a main chart. The non-prb chart
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW flo1fullmetal   IP Logged
Etch
sage
*****
Offline

3.0+1.0=CUTE

6964 time runner-up

Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #42 - 01/12/14 at 16:28:41
 
We don't have a main chart...
Kmacc wrote on 08/09/09 at 08:32:37:
The official chart is whichever one you want it to be. Just go kart.


Only those who get hung up on the arbitrarily decided combined ranks give a shit about this stuff.  Giving preference over one section or banning it all together does nothing but hurt competition.  For a place supposedly dedicated to time trials, not sure why people still feel the need to suppress how others play.  That's why I pushed so hard to get prb integrated since the fastest known times had no home for over 2 years.

Like Lars said, the shortcuts have to be discovered first but tracking both sets is a no-brainer.
Back to top
 
 

Karters cannot create anything out of nothingness. Karters cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, karters pretend to be gods.
View Profile   IP Logged
Fant0m
Myth
*****
Offline

aka Flo

helped 5943 people
Paris / France
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #43 - 01/12/14 at 23:42:51
 
Of course, I can understand your point, but in the end, Non-prb is still the chart used for combined ranks + the one you use to define a player when you write the news update.

Also, if we stick to your pôint of view, if a player has an AF in Non-prb and in PRB, which one would you pick? The best of the 2?
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW flo1fullmetal   IP Logged
Etch
sage
*****
Offline

3.0+1.0=CUTE

6964 time runner-up

Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #44 - 01/13/14 at 15:24:35
 
Fant0m wrote on 01/12/14 at 23:42:51:
Non-prb is still the chart used for combined ranks


The combined ranks were originally AF non-sc for smk+mk64+mkdd.  Sticking with that tradition, it only seemed logical to include non-prb since prb allows shortcuts.  If we are going to look at how players perform between different games, using a similar set of rules allows for some meaningful comparison.  This simply measures who ranks the best against the most without shortcuts.  I guess mkw is the oddball but if we went back and applied that to mk64 that would radically alter some scores.

There are actually more full prb time sets than non-prb, food for thought.

Fant0m wrote on 01/12/14 at 23:42:51:
If a player has an AF in Non-prb and in PRB, which one would you pick? The best of the 2?


No, if a player submits prb times I mention their prb rank and vice versa.  If there are submissions for both I list both.  It makes zero sense to mention their rank where there was no activity.  Had you been reading the news there this should be painfully obvious.
Back to top
 
 

Karters cannot create anything out of nothingness. Karters cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, karters pretend to be gods.
View Profile   IP Logged
Leone
Titan
*****
Offline

Curious.

4390 holabolas
København, soon
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #45 - 01/13/14 at 21:36:43
 
Quote:
There are actually more full prb time sets than non-prb, food for thought.


#JapanesePlayers  Smiley
Back to top
 
 

MKDS #21 WW #3 US
MKRecords Domain Co-Chair
View Profile   IP Logged
ALAKTORN
Myth
*****
Offline

Resident weeaboo

6519 days karting
Italy - Viserba
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #46 - 01/14/14 at 04:45:44
 
Leone wrote on 01/13/14 at 21:36:43:
Quote:
There are actually more full prb time sets than non-prb, food for thought.


#JapanesePlayers  Smiley

it’s more the fact that non PRB timesheets still count for PRB, but not viceversa Roll Eyes
Back to top
 
 

ALAKTORN wrote on 11/22/17 at 05:24:31:
OH YEAH WHY AM I NOT GLOATING MORE

I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GET FUCKED

My YouTube

MKDS: 31 GODs, 28 Myths, 5 Titans, Hold 9 NoPRB CRs, Hold 11 PRB CRs, Hold 2 NoMT WRs, Held 7 NoPRB WRs and 8 Beta WRs
MKW: Held 2 3lap WRs, many Flaps
MK7: Held a lot of WRs
MK8: Held some WRs
View Profile alaktorn91   IP Logged
Utter
Legend
*****
Offline

Arite Chief

6493 days karting
Location: Unknown
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #47 - 01/14/14 at 09:36:36
 
USe MKDS's flawless system. It's not fucking rocket science.
Back to top
 
 

My Youtube Account

Quote:
Hcte - Today at 10:36 PM
ah but even i can ban myself from playing
it's that powerful
did take more whacks than i expected though
fucker is pretty tough, lol
View Profile WWW Utter matthewrandom1   IP Logged
Nicola
Titan
*****
Offline

MKDS will never die!

drank 6910 beers
Italy
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #48 - 01/14/14 at 17:52:55
 
Etch wrote on 01/12/14 at 16:28:41:
We don't have a main chart...
Kmacc wrote on 08/09/09 at 08:32:37:
The official chart is whichever one you want it to be. Just go kart.


Only those who get hung up on the arbitrarily decided combined ranks give a shit about this stuff.  Giving preference over one section or banning it all together does nothing but hurt competition.  For a place supposedly dedicated to time trials, not sure why people still feel the need to suppress how others play.  That's why I pushed so hard to get prb integrated since the fastest known times had no home for over 2 years.

Like Lars said, the shortcuts have to be discovered first but tracking both sets is a no-brainer.


You should post more often Etchy, you are always right Kiss
Back to top
 
 
View Profile WWW   IP Logged
Kmacc
NinjaKmacc
*****
Offline

aka Kmacc

6886 days karting
Brooklyn, NY
Gender: male
Re: Protest thread for Non-SC leaderboards on day
Reply #49 - 01/20/14 at 15:05:42
 
Etch wrote on 01/12/14 at 16:28:41:
We don't have a main chart...
Kmacc wrote on 08/09/09 at 08:32:37:
The official chart is whichever one you want it to be. Just go kart.


How do you even find these quotes? I don't even remember saying that haha.

I do think the solution is pretty obvious here though. Just make two charts to begin with; the shortcut chart would mirror the non-sc chart until shortcuts start being discovered, and those sc times will then only update to the sc chart and it will no longer quite mirror the other chart.
Back to top
 
 

Pulsar wrote on 03/01/07 at 21:39:23:
Spazzup u cunt...you were gonna hoard this strat...needledick!

SMK: #159 (NTSC) MK64: #253 MKSC: #46 MKDD: #521 MKDS: #47 MKWii: #312 MK7: #451 MK8: #442 Combined: #38 (As of June 2020)

Follow Me on Twitch: Twitch.tv/Keverage
View Profile kmaccncheez@aol.com   IP Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print