WillD wrote on 01/08/16 at 18:17:40:


Better late than never, but they are now added. That also goes for KartSeven's 12"97 at MC2 PAL flap that Lafungo reported.
I remember going with the policy of only including WRs that were actually submitted, but if there is actual evidence of a pre-existing undocumented WR, then it would be nonsensical to exclude it.

Lafungo wrote on 02/24/16 at 11:15:24:


Could you provide video links to those, so non Yahoo members can access them as well?

Yes it does, provided it has the url to that specific download.
The page didn't appear to be accessible w/o a yahoo account.

Thanks, but for me those DL links actually do not work.  

Lafungo wrote on 07/13/16 at 09:37:14:


+1. Well, get on it Lafungo, you're the workhorse* of the SMK community now.  

*side note: Team Horse!  

I've got a few more unreported WRs.

For PAL:
MC3 1'27"10 by Sami
KB2 55"72 by KartSeven (Tied WR)

For NTSC:
MC1 56"42 by Sami
MC1 56"05 by Sami
DP1 1'09"12 by Chris B
DP1 1'08"79 by KVD (Tied WR)

There's several NTSC tracks that I haven't looked through yet, so there may be a few more upcoming  


Also, is there a known Japanese TT page? There had to have been one at some point.

Very interesting!
What leads you to speculate that this is the player who got the sub-minute in 1992?

Is it the same chrono? And how do you know he allegedly retired in 93?

Right, well the magazine screenshot showed a time of 59"92, not 59"87, so I'm still not too sure what to do with this.
Also, I'd really like to see Clementy's source for the times from back when they were added to the Players' Site.

If we could get some more solid confirmation / meta data on this, it could be a pretty f*cking spectacular entry to the database.  

Ah right, I forgot that the magazine scan had a "92.

I found Nicolas's original message with a link to Mikihiko's web page (which is still up!). If we believe his site, then the 59"87 was set on November 14, 1993.

His VL2 times are a bit concerning though, as his page lists PRs of 53"58/6"92, both set with Peach/Yoshi. It seems likely that Mikihiko's times were set with the lapskip, and that Nicolas misread 6"92 as 9"92 when submitting this timesheet to the PP.

I'm trying to understand the page through Google Translate and based on the green header above the list of times ("Record in SIG NES Republic (PC communication PC-VAN)"), it seems like Mikihiko either compiled a list of best Japanese times from a bulletin board called "NES Republic" or posted his records there. I did a brief search on PC-VAN, it was apparently a Japanese communication service from the late-80s and 90s. A SIG was a Special Interest Group, which looks like a topic-specific Japanese BBS. This page seems to confirm the existence of the NES Republic SIG (listed as "FCGAME" here), although it doesn't provide a link to the SIG itself (assuming a SIG would even been accessible via a modern browser).

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Upon further investigation, I'm fairly certain that Mikihiko's page is a compilation of best known times from this NES Republic SIG. Between the SMK page and this Ridge Racer page, it looks like the column after the time (for SMK) and the column after the date (for Ridge Racer) list the username of whoever set the time.

Assuming this is true, it would probably be best to remove Mikihiko's timesheet from the PP as it wouldn't be representative of a single person's achievements. However, this page would still have significant historical value, as it would be a trace of what might have been the best Japanese times from 1993.

It would be great if we could get help from someone who understands Japanese.

I've been kind of following all this from the sidelines and I'm very impressed! It's a tall task to collect early history on a game that's been out for nearly 25 years. Interesting that there's only 3 players that have records though...

I agree that his timesheet should be removed, but the times definitely needed to be added in the the history site. One consequence that immediately jumps out to me will be the skewedness of the longest lasting records

There were a few unmentioned WR ties on the February 2002 link. Should those be added?

I thought I had found a (broken) link to a video of Sami's 1'00"99 MC1 WR, but (thanks to Paul Tanney) I learned that it had been uploaded to YT here and that in fact it was a video of a second 1'00"99 by Sami based on the Top 5 at the start of the video. This makes sense considering I seem to remember reading that Sami had no video of the original 1'00"99.

However, it looks like the ghost in that video is also a 1'00"99 (which would mean that it can only be the original 1'00"99). Hence one could argue that this video is also a video of the original 1'00"99 (albeit somewhat indirectly). The question is therefore: should this video be added to the WR history site as a video of the original 1'00"99?

I'd say the same.

Ah yeah you're absolutely correct. In that case it's less of a clear cut case whether to add this video or not, since it was driven years apart from the original 1'00"99. We could still add it though I suppose, thoughts?

You could add a comment on the WR history, or maybe put the date of the 2nd 1'00"99 into the Date column to clarify that it was handed in later than the originally driven 1'00"99.

Nice archeology there