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05/20/13 at 17:29:37
 
http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2013/05/20/oklahoma-braces-for-severe-storms/

Two elementary schools leveled at this point... unbelievable. My prayers go out for the victims of this disaster.

And I'm planning on majoring in meteorology at OU, too...
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Reply #1 - 05/20/13 at 19:15:34
 
http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/images/tornado_agri_map.jpg
The USA has about three quarters of the whole planet's tornado activity. Almost all of them happen around the bible belt. That's pretty amazing.
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Reply #2 - 05/20/13 at 20:52:52
 
The midwest isn't the the location of the Bible Belt, it's on the east coast.

Tornadoes just happen a lot here, it's the way the land works. I find it weird though that Moore, Ok was hit by this storm and the one on 5-3-1999...
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Reply #3 - 05/20/13 at 22:35:17
 
The tornadoes form due to the mixing of warm and cold air trapped between the Rocky Mountains on the west and the Appalachians to the east.
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Reply #4 - 05/20/13 at 23:40:51
 
Incorrect. Tornadoes are formed from Gods wrath. And excessive masturbation.
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Reply #5 - 05/21/13 at 00:08:50
 
Hope Stinson is okay.
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Reply #6 - 05/21/13 at 06:21:35
 
^ According to his FB activity, he's out on a cruise ship.

My newspaper claimed at least 51 have died; the pictures looked horrific. I can't imagine something like this happening to my own home and neighborhood.
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Reply #7 - 05/21/13 at 07:13:57
 
This just goes to show how much we would be better off without Texas. Causing tornadoes in the north, hurricanes in the south, right-wing legislature - it never ends with Texas.

But on a serious note, my heart goes out to the families of the victims.
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Reply #8 - 05/21/13 at 08:33:57
 
I thought I heard that there was prior warning that this would occur. Why would everyone not temporarily relocate as quickly as possible even at the possibility of a disaster like this. RIP to the victims.
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Reply #9 - 05/21/13 at 11:01:50
 
Once again, nature reminds us where not to build cities. Smiley

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Reply #10 - 05/21/13 at 11:09:57
 
Another catchy image...

I've heard that there will be more tornadoes soon, but I hope that people will be quick enough to evacuate before it's too late.
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Reply #11 - 05/21/13 at 11:48:51
 
I went to bed yesterday and I said: 'I have a feeling that the next tornado in USA will be huge'
And when I woke up I was scared to death
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Reply #12 - 05/21/13 at 13:29:33
 
robman60 wrote on 05/21/13 at 08:33:57:
I thought I heard that there was prior warning that this would occur. Why would everyone not temporarily relocate as quickly as possible even at the possibility of a disaster like this. RIP to the victims.

Well according to http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/21/us/oklahoma-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2, the tornado warning came only 14 minutes before it reached the city. That's pretty good by today's standards. Also consider that since you never know exactly where or when it will hit, inevitably there will be people who chose wrong and will be in its path when it does.
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Reply #13 - 05/21/13 at 15:15:42
 
I hope Jacob McMillin is ok....
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Reply #14 - 05/22/13 at 21:18:36
 
I kept thinking and thinking the past hours and had a strange feeling that some poster here had identified himself as a resident of Moore.  I could not recall who it was exactly so I've searched and now I remember.

http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile&username=...

I had a lot of disagreements with him and his mentalities in the past, but by all accounts he was a very nice and intelligent guy.  &&&&I never ever wish anything bad upon people no matter any of my outstanding online quarrels.  &&&&I hope he is alright.  &&&&I will say a prayer for him this evening.

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Upon further research I discovered the list of victims and he is not listed.  &&http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130522/us-oklahoma-tornado-victims...

However it must be noted that this list is only of the victims that suffered the ultimate price.  &&There are thousands upon thousands of unlisted victims that have been injured, lost everything they've ever owned in life and have no property left to call their own.  God bless these people and the city of Moore.


On a lighthearted note, here's a reason I love live TV...

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Reply #15 - 06/02/13 at 19:46:31
 
Tim Samaras, his son, and one of his colleagues were killed friday afternoon in another OK City area tornado. I follow these guys on their twitters (though I don't have an account), and am very sad to see this happened. Tim is a 20-year chaser, famous for the placement of the probe that caught the WR pressure drop of about 100 mb, in 2003, in South Dakota. Apparently, he and his team got caught in an HP cell friday that was dropping multiple, rain-wrapped tornadoes. His vehicle got caught in an F3, and was smashed beyond recognition. My deepest condolences to the chasers' families, and I know Tim, his son, and his friend will be deeply missed. Twistex will never be the same (if it continues at all) with only one surviving member.
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Reply #16 - 06/04/13 at 20:17:37
 
I'm okay, thanks for the concern I feel loved  Kiss

I lost my house in the May 3 1999 tornado, which were the highest wind speeds on record globally at the time (I believe it still might be as well) Witnessing the aftermath was unbelievable (of the recent may 20 tornado) Bisected my grandparents house while they were inside, they are luckily just fine. Mowed down everything in sight. Pictures and shredded insulation everywhere and the smell of broken gas lines. My good friend was inside of his house at the time most of his neighborhood was destroyed and his house was fine save for a two by four which flew in from above and went straight through his house. Another close friend of mine's house was destroyed and he made it into a storm shelter only minutes before. Makes me wish at least part of the massive funds for donation went to those who were forced to relocate and start over. I may have never discovered video games if it werent for a super nintendo I received as a charitable donation after the may 3 tornado.

We're all used to the Tornado procedures and storms in moore, I've lived here my whole life so I'm not as sensitive or concerned as someone who rarely deals with them would be. They are so powerful that walking the neighborhoods after one you can witness the strangest things. The kitchen vent from briarwood elementary, one of the schools that was destroyed, landed as a curled up ball of steel and iron on a friend of mine's garage whom I had helped clean up, It had to have weighed over a ton and had to have been 1/2 a centimeter thick metal just twisted and mangled.. must've been thrown nearly half a mile no less. Other strange things I've witnessed are a two by four stuck in a plastic tricycle, an unbroken lawn chair lodged in an unmoved support column, A massive 50 foot tree with at least 2m in diameter uprooted while not even ten meters away there stands a dumpster with wheels not even knocked over or moved. The most impressive thing I've seen though I'd say was a two by four sticking out of blacktop road, wedged in like excalibur at least a foot deep.

I'd say I've rambled a lot, I'm getting tired of the attention brought to my area by these tornadoes...
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Reply #17 - 06/04/13 at 20:46:27
 
MJL wrote on 06/04/13 at 20:17:37:
I may have never discovered video games if it werent for a super nintendo I received as a charitable donation after the may 3 tornado.


Well, they say all the time that God works in mysterious ways. Everything He does to our world has some purpose. In this case He got you into Karting, and consequently, this forum...

MJL wrote on 06/04/13 at 20:17:37:
They are so powerful that walking the neighborhoods after one you can witness the strangest things. The kitchen vent from briarwood elementary, one of the schools affected, landed as a curled up ball of steel and iron on a friend of mine's garage whom I had helped clean up, It had to have weighed over a ton and had to have been 1/2 a centimeter thick metal just twisted and mangled.. must've been thrown nearly half a mile no less. Other strange things I've witnessed are a two by four stuck in a plastic tricycle, an unbroken lawn chair lodged in an unmoved support column, A massive 50 foot tree with at least 2m in diameter uprooted while not even ten meters away there stands a dumpster with wheels not even knocked over or moved. The most impressive thing I've seen though I'd say was a two by four sticking out of blacktop road, wedged in like excalibur at least a foot deep.


This is just one of many ways that God's awesome power manifests itself in our world (and our universe). In addition to tornadoes, God can produce hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, lightning, tsunamis, asteroid impacts, gamma ray bursts, supernovas, yes even the Big Bang... Man can never produce any these things.

The sad part is of course that when God displays His might, often we have to lose some human lives, but as said before this is all part of God's plan, He has it all under control. He expects those He leaves behind to find ways to cope with their losses, hopefully turning to Him for solace. Those He takes, have done whatever He put them here to do, even if they or nobody else had any idea what they were put here for. Only He knew.
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Reply #18 - 06/04/13 at 21:12:42
 
I'm glad you and your friends+family are ok, (I'm gonna guess) Jacob. It must be hard for the folks though that lost homes now and in 1999.

The 5-3-99 tornado had the fastest winds ever recorded near the Earth's surface; exact wind speeds are unknown because the instruments broke around 318 mph. Some estimates have been 350 mph, others have been over 420 mph. It's hard to tell because basically anything higher than 270 will wipe everything off the map.

I think it's pretty neat though how after that first disaster you got into karting, then into this MB. Smiley
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Reply #19 - 06/04/13 at 22:57:06
 
Harvey Kartel wrote on 06/04/13 at 20:46:27:
Well, they say all the time that God works in mysterious ways. Everything He does to our world has some purpose. In this case He got you into Karting, and consequently, this forum...

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This is just one of many ways that God's awesome power manifests itself in our world (and our universe). In addition to tornadoes, God can produce hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, lightning, tsunamis, asteroid impacts, gamma ray bursts, supernovas, yes even the Big Bang... Man can never produce any these things.

The sad part is of course that when God displays His might, often we have to lose some human lives, but as said before this is all part of God's plan, He has it all under control. He expects those He leaves behind to find ways to cope with their losses, hopefully turning to Him for solace. Those He takes, have done whatever He put them here to do, even if they or nobody else had any idea what they were put here for. Only He knew.


This is dismissive of those who catechize the existence of said deity. Wherein nothing short of tragedy do you find such evidence of divinity? Is it to propound that you are acceptant that there are things that you know you cannot know and submissive to those powers connected to that knowledge? It seems awful to hear that natural disasters are a part of any intelligent creators' master plan. Seems to indicate calculated and precise extinguishment of life can be for the betterment of humanity just to give one peace of mind that everything happens for a reason. I don't think when looking for that reason, it's a good think to jump on a bandwagon and assume 'god' is that reason.. I prefer to assume that nothing happens for no reason, and when evidence that this assumption may be faulty I presume lack of understanding of the mechanics to be more likely than something happening for no reason whatsoever. I don't want a religious debate but I suggest you keep such views to yourself I'm on the internet to get away from the ubiquity of that attitude in the bible belt..

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I'm glad you and your friends+family are ok, (I'm gonna guess) Jacob. It must be hard for the folks though that lost homes now and in 1999.

The 5-3-99 tornado had the fastest winds ever recorded near the Earth's surface; exact wind speeds are unknown because the instruments broke around 318 mph. Some estimates have been 350 mph, others have been over 420 mph. It's hard to tell because basically anything higher than 270 will wipe everything off the map.

I think it's pretty neat though how after that first disaster you got into karting, then into this MB. Smiley

Thanks, and yeah nobody I know is terribly hurt. My girlfriend and I both stepped on a nail walking through the rubble, but that is minor when I consider how many friends lost their homes or had significant damage done that were lucky to have lived.

I don't really know of anyone who lost their house in both tornadoes.. the May 3 tornado's path intersected with the May 20 tornado's path in a fairly unpopulated area, then the may 3 tornado went on to cause widespread damage from South 119th to South 104th. The May 20 tornado went on to cause widespread damage from South 149th to South 134th streets, so the same populated areas weren't really hit. Also very few who lost their house relocated to the area demolished by the may 20 tornado, as that hit an area with a significantly higher property value average by comparison.

I've heard the 320mph figure for windspeeds which was revised to 318mph. There are a few methods for estimate windspeeds over 250mph by examining the damage, but I haven't heard of any of them having been done in that time.

I really doubt that I would have gotten through my adolescence without discovering video games, so it's a bit hasty to say that the may 3 tornado was solely responsible for my membership here, though interesting for me to ponder..
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Reply #20 - 06/04/13 at 23:36:46
 
MJL wrote on 06/04/13 at 22:57:06:
I don't want a religious debate but I suggest you keep such views to yourself I'm on the internet to get away from the ubiquity of that attitude in the bible belt..


Well I was being fully aware that the majority of this forum wouldn't agree with the content of my last post but I thought someone from Oklahoma wouldn't mind. I reckon I was wrong  Lips Sealed

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My girlfriend and I both stepped on a nail walking through the rubble


I'd watch out for tetanus in that case. I probably should get a booster shot myself. Even if the nail wasn't at all rusty it could've injected something else nasty into your system. The biological danger from puncture wounds (especially gunshots, etc.) is often overlooked...

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Reply #21 - 06/05/13 at 07:44:04
 
Harvey Kartel wrote on 06/04/13 at 20:46:27:
This is just one of many ways that God's awesome power manifests itself in our world (and our universe). In addition to tornadoes, God can produce hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, lightning, tsunamis, asteroid impacts, gamma ray bursts, supernovas, yes even the Big Bang... Man can never produce any these things.

The sad part is of course that when God displays His might, often we have to lose some human lives, but as said before this is all part of God's plan, He has it all under control. He expects those He leaves behind to find ways to cope with their losses, hopefully turning to Him for solace. Those He takes, have done whatever He put them here to do, even if they or nobody else had any idea what they were put here for. Only He knew.

That is so far from the truth and what the Bible says about God, it's disgusting. Seriously, just stop.
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Maybe it's this continuous and conscious diverting of God's master plan that makes God hate Oklahomans so much. If more Oklahomans followed your advice and used artificial methods to change their fate (booster shots, seat belts, medicines, looking both ways before crossing, and generally screwing around with destiny) it might further anger God and make him throw even more tornadoes at them.
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Maybe it's this continuous and conscious diverting of God's master plan that makes God hate Oklahomans so much. If more Oklahomans followed your advice and used artificial methods to change their fate (booster shots, seat belts, medicines, looking both ways before crossing, and generally screwing around with destiny) it might further anger God and make him throw even more tornadoes at them.


I hope this is joking, because if not, this ridiculous. Let me iterate on this point, just in case anyone believes otherwise: FAITH AND WEATHER ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED SUBJECTS. Seriously Alex, just give this whole Christian-belief hatred thing a rest. We're aware of and respect (hopefully I'm speaking for more than just myself here) your position, as we know you're not changing it. You don't have to get hostile/sarcastic every time the issue comes up.
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Reply #24 - 06/05/13 at 17:52:18
 
Actually the post above was unrelated to my previous one about tornadoes being prevalent in religious states (which is true). I was making a caricature of Nick's way of thinking that, on the one hand, God has ultimate plans for everything/everyone and likes to remind us of his awesome power from time to time using crazy weather and destruction, yet on the other hand it's fine to subvert his plans with booster shots.

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FAITH AND WEATHER ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED SUBJECTS
Funnily enough, the reason many faiths in history have existed is because people wanted explanations for geology and the weather. But don't bother teaching me about religion and weather. I know plenty. Why don't you instead explain to Nick that he's got it mostly backwards?

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