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Combined PAL/NTSC rankings (based on the NBT site)
02/14/13 at 06:37:11
 
Took me around one hundred minutes to do this, but I felt many people would enjoy an updated combined ranking.


Rank (Evolution) / Player Country Combined AF Change
1. (=) Karel van Duijvenboden Netherlands 2.0875 (+0.0625)
2. (=) Pierre L'Hoest France 3.7250 (+0.2750)
3. (+1) Guillaume Leviach France 3.8125 (-0.9750)
4. (-1) Sami Çetin UK 4.5000 (-0.0125)
5. (=) Florent Lecoanet France 5.6000 (+0.3250)
6. (=) Guilherme Arantes Brazil 10.7875 (+0.3250)
7. (+9) Christian Wild Germany 14.0000 (-11.3000)
8. (-1) Julien Holmière France 15.1750 (+0.5500)
9. (-1) Matthias Mann Germany 16.8125 (+0.3625)
10. (-1) Matthias Boucher France 18.6250 (+0.6875)
11. (-1) Manuel Babjar Germany 21.1250 (+0.7000)
12. (-1) Florian Chollet France 22.6750 (+0.2875)
13. (-1) Christophe Paquin France 23.9375 (+0.8125)
14. (-2) Joe Bernier USA 24.0000 (+0.8750)
15. (-1) Armin Huber Germany 24.2250 (+0.8250)
16. (-1) Sébastien Holmière France 25.4125 (+0.7625)
17. (+6) Alencar Faria Brazil 26.6750 (-21.5750)
18. (-1) Frédéric Duarte-Leite France 31.0000 (+0.9250)
19. (-1) Gerard Roodhorst Netherlands 32.6000 (+0.8625)
20. (-1) Pierre Coste France 33.1250 (+0.6500)
21. (NEW) David Moll UK 33.4500 (-)
22. (-2) Olivier Antoine France 38.6250 (-2.3375)
23. (-2) Alvin van Asselt Netherlands 42.3250 (+1.3250)
24. (-2) Ben Allen UK 43.5000 (+1.3750)
25. (+3) Christophe Charignon USA 61.1250 (-31.4750)
26. (-2) Marius Hukkelaas Norway 69.8000 (+2.5125)
27. (-2) Chris Clark UK 71.5250 (+2.5000)
28. (-2) Chris Balch Canada 72.3500 (+1.7750)
29. (NEW) Leyla Hasso UK 78.1875 (-)
30. (-3) Julien Chabanis France 84.9250 (+2.9875)
31. (+3) Richard Karlsson Sweden 90.1125 (-74.8750)
32. (-3) Sean Billingsley UK 98.4375 (+2.8250)
33. (-3) David Smith USA 99.9125 (+1.9625)
34. (-3) Samuel Gomez Spain 104.0875 (+3.3125)
35. (-3) Steve Bayliss UK 131.4875 (+3.3625)
36. (-3) Emeric Gosselin France 147.9875 (+2.5125)
37. NEW Anna Moon UK 155.5250 (-)
38. (-3) Krystian Wieczorek Poland 170.5750 (+3.4000)
39. (-3) Élie Blatz France 198.5250 (+3.8875)
40. (-3) Luca Barbetta Italy 246.7500 (+3.9250)
41. (-3) Tanja Huber Germany 373.0250 (+5.1750)


Yeah, sometimes I don't waste my time hunting PAL WRs.
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Reply #1 - 02/14/13 at 06:50:08
 
Centre of the universe! or at least this table anyway Smiley
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Reply #2 - 02/14/13 at 07:09:57
 
The change is relative to when?
Also I'm hoping that your message does not imly that 100 minutes not spent PAL WR hunting is a rarity in your life nowadays, but that's what I see when I read between the lines... Smiley Well it was a joke of course, but perhaps with a kernel of truth  Cheesy
Anyway nice job, always nice to see these  Wink

Does that imply I am the master of the universe btw Moll?  Roll Eyes Smiley
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KVD wrote on 02/14/13 at 07:09:57:
The change is relative to when?

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Reply #4 - 02/14/13 at 07:37:06
 
Nice chart indeed. Interesting to note only 41 players have timesets for both. I assumed it wouldve been at least twice as many.
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Reply #5 - 02/14/13 at 09:16:33
 
KVD wrote on 02/14/13 at 07:09:57:
The change is relative to when?
Also I'm hoping that your message does not imly that 100 minutes not spent PAL WR hunting is a rarity in your life nowadays, but that's what I see when I read between the lines... Smiley Well it was a joke of course, but perhaps with a kernel of truth  Cheesy

Actually, everytime I use some free time to play SMK, it's for hitting a very high rank on some tracks, and my recent activity tends to make me think I'm mostly fighting for WRs those days. Lips Sealed
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Aron Langerak wrote on 08/06/17 at 13:47:24:
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Re: Combined PAL/NTSC rankings (based on the NBT s
Reply #6 - 02/14/13 at 18:07:13
 
Zarkov wrote on 02/14/13 at 07:37:06:
Nice chart indeed. Interesting to note only 41 players have timesets for both. I assumed it wouldve been at least twice as many.


Yeah I thought the same thing. Then again, there are more combined players in the higher ranks, but even there, there are still quite a few who only play one version (most notably Oliver in NTSC; Angelo and Stellmacher in PAL). In fact the majority of the top Americans, Canadians, Japanese, and Brazilians still haven't touched PAL, and no Australian is on both PAL and NTSC. I suppose that helps make the upper NTSC ranks stronger though, since a larger share of PAL's top players are also on NTSC.  Cool

Also worth noting that a large number of combined PAL-NTSC players are French. I think this is because Japanese import games are particularly popular there (and it's likely that many other Europeans got their own NTSC copies in France, especially from the CDM).
More popular than PAL games are in any NTSC area, at least. (every NTSC-to-PAL player probably either had to go to Europe to get a PAL SMK copy (e.g. GAS or Charignon... while Anna Moon's NTSC game must have come from Japan), order it online, or have a friend send it to them... PAL games are just not sold in North and South America, AFAIK, and you need a special converter to make one work there-- NTSC TVs never support 50Hz, I don't think, even if PAL ones may support 60Hz... plus color may not work on a converted game)
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Reply #7 - 02/15/13 at 14:07:02
 
Antistar wrote on 02/14/13 at 09:16:33:
KVD wrote on 02/14/13 at 07:09:57:
The change is relative to when?
Also I'm hoping that your message does not imly that 100 minutes not spent PAL WR hunting is a rarity in your life nowadays, but that's what I see when I read between the lines... Smiley Well it was a joke of course, but perhaps with a kernel of truth  Cheesy

Actually, everytime I use some free time to play SMK, it's for hitting a very high rank on some tracks, and my recent activity tends to make me think I'm mostly fighting for WRs those days. Lips Sealed


I was more aiming at the implication that you use almost all your spare time to play SMK and spending 100 minutes of it outside of SMK TT endeavors has become a rarity. This is what I was reading between the lines, but never mind as it was said tongue in cheek anyway.  Smiley
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KVD wrote on 02/14/13 at 07:09:57:
Does that imply I am the master of the universe btw Moll?  Roll Eyes Smiley


Nope your an anomaly, a statistical outlier (but also a very nice chap).
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wxyz wrote on 02/15/13 at 14:14:05:
Nope your an anomaly


Ha, that reminds me of the Matrix!  Cheesy
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Reply #10 - 02/15/13 at 23:31:43
 
My PAL is ruining my combined AF Sad My times erased too and I don't really feel motivated to try PAL again at the moment maybe after I beat Yukiko and Leyla on NTSC
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Reply #11 - 02/16/13 at 03:33:08
 
KVD wrote on 02/15/13 at 14:07:02:
I was more aiming at the implication that you use almost all your spare time to play SMK

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Reply #12 - 02/16/13 at 04:05:43
 
Haha, are you drunk? Typing in caps...man, I don't know  Smiley
Well out of your mind or not, you're probably not wrong Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - 02/16/13 at 06:52:05
 
Haha, I wouldn't be drunk so early in the day. I just wanted to react this way because your post made me laugh that much, since it's very, very, very far from truth.
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Reply #14 - 02/16/13 at 07:14:19
 
Maybe you just stayed up long Grin
Right, can you estimate how many hours per day of SMK in the period you got the kb1, vl1/2, gv2, etc prs? Just out of curiosity, Id be surprised if it was less than 2. I remember Pierre going gung ho at the end of 2007, but he clocked at least 3h a day back then.  Smiley
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Reply #15 - 02/16/13 at 07:33:07
 
You'll just laugh your ass off. It took me less than one hour to get 48"47 on VL2 when I started playing it, and even just half an hour to reach the GV2 WR just after I decided coming back on this track.

On the other hand, I spent probably 5-6 hours a day, during 3 consecutive days, to reach my 4 new VL1 and KB1 PRs. And even a bit more on one single day dedicated to GV3 for almost nothing (0"06 and 2-rank cut on the 5-lap, 0"01 without rank cut for the f-lap). Since I'm generally awake ~ 18-19 hours a day this gives me a lot of free time to do many other things though.
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Reply #16 - 02/16/13 at 07:36:21
 
The VL2 and GV2 are impressive indeed. It might not be that easy everytime though!
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Reply #17 - 02/16/13 at 07:50:53
 
Well, I'm not even joking, but everytime I get a new VL2 PR, it takes much less time than any other race where I try to improve my times. I don't say it's the "easiest" but my VL2 sessions are always shorter than any other else... concerning GV2, I've already talked about this on the French MB. Yesterday Pierre was at my place, and while he was discovering (and completing!) a PSN game I wanted him to be introduced to, I gave a few tries to the f-lap. This said, I went for a couple of full runs each time the opener was good (because I'm ALWAYS trying the PJ on the opener, succeeding rather frequently there), and I got a 1'01"29 (4/5) rather quickly, then another 4-consecutive PJ run where I unfortunately missed the last one — potential PR would have been around 1'00"8x with a final 12"0x. Undecided

Looks I just have much more luck (?) everytime I play tricky tracks where 5 consecutive special things have to performed, than where I play more classical tracks. I can't really explain this, even if I'm still convinced VL2 5/5 IJ + NTSC jump in PAL is not as hard as everyone thinks. Huh
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Reply #18 - 12/28/14 at 02:41:15
 
Update, thanks to Samuel Gomez:


Rank (Evolution) / Player Country Combined AF Change
1. (+2) Guillaume Leviach France 1.6875 (-2.125)
2. (-1) Karel van Duijvenboden Netherlands 2.95 (+0.8625)
3. (-1) Pierre L'Hoest France 4.2875 (+0.5625)
4. (=) Sami Çetin UK 4.425 (-0.075)
5. (=) Florent Lecoanet France 6.3875 (+0.7875)
6. (+1) Christian Wild Germany 9.125 (-4.875)
7. (-1) Guilherme Arantes Brazil 11.9375 (+1.15)
8. (=) Julien Holmière France 16.225 (+1.05)
9. (=) Matthias Mann Germany 17.9875 (+1.175)
10. (+1) Manuel Babjar Germany 19.2 (-1.925)
11. (-1) Matthias Boucher France 19.8875 (+1.2625)
12. (+2) Joe Bernier USA 22.075 (-1.925)
13. (+4) Alencar Faria Brazil 22.15 (-4.525)
14. (-2) Florian Chollet France 23.125 (+0.45)
15. (-2) Christophe Paquin France 25.175 (+1.2375)
16. (-1) Armin Huber Germany 25.65 (+1.425)
17. (-1) Sébastien Holmière France 26.8125 (+1.4)
18. (=) Frédéric Duarte-Leite France 30.6375 (-0.3625)
19. (+1) Pierre Coste France 32.475 (-0.6500)
20. (+1) David Moll UK 32.6875 (-0.7625)
21. (-2) Gerard Roodhorst Netherlands 34.6 (+2)
22. NEW Nicholas Harvey USA 36.9875 (-)
23. (-1) Olivier Antoine France 40.5875 (+1.9625)
24. (-1) Alvin van Asselt Netherlands 44.8125 (+2.4875)
25. (-1) Ben Allen UK 45.6875 (+2.1875)
26. (+3) Leyla Hasso UK 49.1875 (-29)
27. (-2) Christophe Charignon USA 49.85 (-11.275)
28. NEW Stacy Needham UK 52.9 (-)
29. (-2) Chris Clark UK 67.4375 (-4.0875)
30. NEW Russell Horwood UK 71.25 (-)
31. (-5) Marius Hukkelaas Norway 73.9625 (+4.1625)
32. (-4) Chris Balch Canada 76.95 (+4.6)
33. (-3) Julien Chabanis France 89.575 (+4.65)
34. (+3) Richard Karlsson Sweden 92.7875 (+2.675)
35. (+2) Anna Moon UK 98.175 (-57.35)
36. (-4) Sean Billingsley UK 104.2 (+5.7625)
37. (-4) David Smith USA 105.575 (+5.6625)
38. (-4) Samuel Gomez Spain 106.95 (+2.8625)
39. NEW Djibril Aatif France 108.75 (-)
38. (-2) Krystian Wieczorek Poland 132.0375 (-38.5375)
41. (-6) Steve Bayliss UK 138.3375 (+6.85)
42. (-6) Emeric Gosselin France 157.7625 (+9.775)
43. NEW Fabrice Baro Canada 167.7125 (-)
44. (-5) Élie Blatz France 209.5625 (+11.0375)
45. NEW William Cox UK 225.4625 (-)
46. (-6) Luca Barbetta Italy 266.475 (+19.725)
47. (-6) Tanja Huber Germany 414.5375 (+41.5125)
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Reply #19 - 12/28/14 at 14:12:43
 
He's not "Christophe" Charignon anymore.
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Reply #20 - 01/17/15 at 03:57:44
 
julien passed guilherme now.

oh and happy birthday guilherme Smiley
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Reply #21 - 01/18/15 at 13:09:10
 
ZTI wrote on 01/17/15 at 03:57:44:
julien passed guilherme now.

oh and happy birthday guilherme Smiley


Smiley thanks mate!
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