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09/27/12 at 15:59:24
 
I've been thinking recently about how annoying shrooms can be in MKSC, with difficult shroomspots and tons of stupid SCs. Since MKSC is supposed to be SMK's sequel, I thought it'd be interesting to try playing without shrooms, just like in the original. If I get some times in, I'll create some tables to keep track of competition. As for rules, I was thinking of making two separate categories: SC and Non-SC, where SC is anything that makes you deviate from the actual track (like RiR jump to the right/left, BC3 SC...) and Non-SC stays only on the track's normal path. Lap skips are banned altogether. As for ZZMT, I would prefer if it's not used, but will accept them (however I will probably mark them on the charts).

Feel free to raise up any issues with the rules/questions you may have and start posting some times!

-Christophe.

Edit: Here's the page with rankings for each track: http://speedrunwiki.com/MKSC_SMK-Style_Times
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Re: MKSC TTs - SMK Style
Reply #1 - 09/27/12 at 16:01:20
 
RMC1: 52"05 / 10"28

But give me a chance to post a Retro Rainbow Road pure driving contest before!!
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Reply #2 - 09/27/12 at 16:42:39
 
Antistar wrote on 09/27/12 at 16:01:20:
But give me a chance to post a Retro Rainbow Road pure driving contest before!!

Cheesy
you mean opener non-NBT with yoshi right ?
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Reply #3 - 09/27/12 at 17:08:02
 
rMC1: 51"48 (10"63/"17/"31/"25/"12)/10"07.

-Christophe.

Edit: rGV1: 52"80/10"40.

Edit 2: rKB1: 46"66/8"85.
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Reply #4 - 09/27/12 at 23:22:16
 
Funny because I always thought it'd be cool to have triple shrooms at your disposal at SMK...  Smiley

I might try this on a few tracks tonight, sans ZZMT.
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Reply #5 - 09/27/12 at 23:29:55
 
If LBs were banned too in a SMK Time Trial with mushrooms it wouldn't be that cool, since there wouldn't be loads of big shortcuts to give a try too, apart for the f-laps that would make no sense compared to the global runs Sad
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Reply #6 - 09/28/12 at 00:12:56
 
Antistar wrote on 09/27/12 at 23:29:55:
If LBs were banned too in a SMK Time Trial with mushrooms it wouldn't be that cool, since there wouldn't be loads of big shortcuts to give a try too, apart for the f-laps that would make no sense compared to the global runs Sad


It'd only work (or, at least, I'd only find it enjoyable) if LBs were allowed. I have visions of runs like this in mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPm6uHdFhGQ
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Reply #7 - 09/29/12 at 09:11:40
 
I got some Non-NBT MKSC videos recorded between 2008 and early 2010

Cheese Land - 51"21 & 16"86: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjD_IxPSjD8
Shy Garden - 1'16"60 & 25"27 (live): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5WWLrMb88A
Rainbow Road - 1'12"51 & 24"11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTw7bZvGM2w
Retro Donut Plains 1 - 1'07"58 & 13"35 (live): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LijPikwmr68
Retro Ghost Valley 1 non-nbt flap - 10"40: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SHLb734h-Y
Retro Ghost Valley 2 - 54"15 (2009 video, PJ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZCvi79iunw
Retro Ghost Valley 2 - 53"46 (2011 video, Non-PJ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq7YyVSS60s
Retro Vanilla Lake 1 - 44"86: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs9cWafSOfI
Retro Vanilla Lake 2 - 45"26: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIi_m53twyw
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Reply #8 - 09/29/12 at 10:17:00
 
SG: 59"66 (ZZMT)

Edit: 59"00

SGB: 53"38
BC1: 44"01
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Reply #9 - 09/29/12 at 12:09:04
 
I'll accept Fenner's times unless someone objects to them.

As for SC/Non-SC, I'm still unsure as to how strict I want the difference to be. For example, should we consider the CL double-bumper strat SC? What about cloud hopping on SG? Or even PJs on the rGVs? I tempted to say yes, since this is an alternate challenge and I feel that Non-SC should be "pure driving". Please share your thoughts to set up SC/Non-SC limitations.

I'll add charts soon (maybe I'll do them on a SpeedRunWiki page to not clutter up the first post).

-Christophe.
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Reply #10 - 09/29/12 at 12:58:22
 
Lafungo wrote on 09/29/12 at 12:09:04:
I'll accept Fenner's times unless someone objects to them.


Mario objects
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Reply #11 - 09/29/12 at 13:13:11
 
flo233 wrote on 09/29/12 at 12:58:22:
Lafungo wrote on 09/29/12 at 12:09:04:
I'll accept Fenner's times unless someone objects to them.


Mario objects

Hah.

Shock: are all your times ZZMT?

-Christophe.
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Reply #12 - 09/29/12 at 13:29:40
 
flo233 wrote on 09/29/12 at 12:58:22:
Lafungo wrote on 09/29/12 at 12:09:04:
I'll accept Fenner's times unless someone objects to them.


Mario objects

Especially since I had a look at the recording dates.

Seriously Lafungo, was this post done on purpose to antagonize me? Grin
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Reply #13 - 09/29/12 at 13:33:25
 
Hahaha, yeah... Roll Eyes

My times are all ZZMT, even if I tried playing non-ZZMT, I'm afraid I might accidentally drift a fraction of a second the wrong direction and give myself an unfair advantage, so... not even going to bother with it. Tongue
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Reply #14 - 09/29/12 at 15:30:17
 
Antistar wrote on 09/29/12 at 13:29:40:
flo233 wrote on 09/29/12 at 12:58:22:
Lafungo wrote on 09/29/12 at 12:09:04:
I'll accept Fenner's times unless someone objects to them.


Mario objects

Especially since I had a look at the recording dates.

Seriously Lafungo, was this post done on purpose to antagonize me? Grin

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Here's the page with the charts: http://speedrunwiki.com/MKSC_SMK-Style_Times

-Christophe.
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Reply #15 - 10/02/12 at 04:59:35
 
rCI1: 10"28.

-Christophe.

Edit: also, lol at Fenner adding himself on the charts. Time to undo some modifications.
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Reply #16 - 12/22/12 at 14:39:15
 
RRR non ZZMT lap 14"46
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Reply #17 - 04/27/13 at 06:38:58
 
I want to keep playing these.

CCI: 1'10"93
SGB: 51"83

If you want, Lafungo, you can copy/paste this and add it to the first post:

Peach Circuit
Shy Guy Beach
Riverside Park
Bowser Castle 1
Mario Circuit
Boo Lake
Cheese Land
Bowser Castle 2
Luigi Circuit
Sky Garden
Cheep Cheep Island
Sunset Wilds
Snow Land
Ribbon Road
Yoshi Desert
Bowser Castle 3
Lakeside Park
Broken Pier
Bowser Castle 4
Rainbow Road

Retro Mario Circuit 1
Retro Donut Plains 1
Retro Ghost Valley 1
Retro Bowser Castle 1
Retro Mario Circuit 2
Retro Choco Island 1
Retro Ghost Valley 2
Retro Donut Plains 2
Retro Bowser Castle 2
Retro Mario Circuit 3
Retro Koopa Beach 1
Retro Choco Island 2
Retro Vanilla Lake 1
Retro Bowser Castle 3
Retro Mario Circuit 4
Retro Donut Plains 3
Retro Koopa Beach 2
Retro Ghost Valley 3
Retro Vanilla Lake 2
Retro Rainbow Road
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Reply #18 - 04/27/13 at 17:40:42
 
I'll add those times (as well as Flo's rRR flap) to the wiki page I linked in the first post (anyone can update it btw). I assume your times are ZZMT?
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Reply #19 - 04/27/13 at 19:37:13
 
Hah, forgot about that page... Yeah, they're all ZZMT. I don't have a non-ZZMT console and I don't want to try non-ZZMT stuff because some MTs that require countersteering to charge up would be pretty questionable at times.
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Reply #20 - 04/28/13 at 02:23:31
 
RiR: 1'17"16
RaR: 1'10"28

Sloppy lap 1 on RiR, will try for 1'16
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Reply #21 - 04/28/13 at 03:08:53
 
Shock wrote on 04/27/13 at 06:38:58:
If you want, Lafungo, you can copy/paste this and add it to the first post:

Peach Circuit
Shy Guy Beach
Riverside Park
Bowser Castle 1
Mario Circuit
Boo Lake
Cheese Land
Bowser Castle 2
Luigi Circuit
Sky Garden
Cheep Cheep Island
Sunset Wilds
Snow Land
Ribbon Road
Yoshi Desert
Bowser Castle 3
Lakeside Park
Broken Pier
Bowser Castle 4
Rainbow Road

Retro Mario Circuit 1
Retro Donut Plains 1
Retro Ghost Valley 1
Retro Bowser Castle 1
Retro Mario Circuit 2
Retro Choco Island 1
Retro Ghost Valley 2
Retro Donut Plains 2
Retro Bowser Castle 2
Retro Mario Circuit 3
Retro Koopa Beach 1
Retro Choco Island 2
Retro Vanilla Lake 1
Retro Bowser Castle 3
Retro Mario Circuit 4
Retro Donut Plains 3
Retro Koopa Beach 2
Retro Ghost Valley 3
Retro Vanilla Lake 2
Retro Rainbow Road

WHAT A COLOSSAL WORK SHOCK

IT MAY HAVE TAKEN YOU HOURS
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Reply #22 - 04/28/13 at 05:00:27
 
THANKS TO GOOGLE SEARCH AND COPY/PASTE, THAT MAY HAVE TAKEN 30 SECONDS AT MOST.
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Reply #23 - 04/28/13 at 05:06:32
 
HOW COULD YOU HAVE NEEDED GOOGLE SEARCH FOR THAT!?

Edit: updated wiki page.
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Reply #24 - 04/28/13 at 07:48:15
 
RR: 1'08"80
RiR: 1'14"36
LP: 1'02"65 (1 try)
BP: 1'05"06
SW: 1'13"21 (pretty bad lap 2)
CL: 49"58 (1 try)
RMC1: 48"00 (1 try)
RGV1: 51"51 (hit a wall)
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