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Blackyboi King Offline 4679 days karting Austria Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #50 - 07/24/12 at 09:30:54 TheFrigz wrote on 07/23/12 at 15:58:38: Blackyboi wrote on 07/23/12 at 15:49:45: So Sword is gonna be banned because he records TTs which means he loads TT mode while using a modification of the Wii. Way to go MVT. I TAS'd my MKDD RR 60 Hz WR. Fixed it for you.
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Reply #51 - 07/24/12 at 09:40:55

MKchouy93 wrote on 07/23/12 at 20:49:25:

Your theories that custom music gives an unfair advantage due to it influencing your 'brain patterns' is complete bs. I understand textures and things like that, but music hacks really are harmless. I know that a line has to be drawn somewhere at what is and is not allowed and it would be much simpler to just say anything beyond loading the game in the disk drive is hacking, but the fact is the majority of the people who make these rules don't even play the game themselves anymore.

Whether or not you make this a rule, I know that I and many others will continue to not care about the rule and will continue playing with custom music. It'd be a shame for so many players' legitimate times to not be counted by the PP.

This would ban NMeade since his disc reader is broken(unless he got a new Wii which I doubt)

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ALAKTORN wrote on 04/27/13 at 08:29:36:

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Reply #52 - 07/24/12 at 09:59:05

Arsenic wrote on 07/24/12 at 08:43:28:

Timothy wrote on 07/24/12 at 06:55:19:

It's asinine comments like this [...]

Thank you, you proved what I said. (It's not my POV by the way, just the facts).

Timothy wrote on 07/24/12 at 06:55:19:

Reasons as above.

Alright. But, can you try to explain, by yourself, why Mick,MrL and Rom are wrong and that their reasons are stupid or you're just going to say " Hey guys! I don't play this game anymore, so I don't give a shit and that's my opinion (#which is subjective for now, by the way)" ?

Wow you're an arsehole. Huh

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Arsenic King Offline 5223 days karting Strasbourg, France Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #53 - 07/24/12 at 10:44:41 Timothy wrote on 07/24/12 at 09:59:05: Wow you're an arsehole. Keep insulting me. It's fun to read.
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Reply #54 - 07/24/12 at 12:19:00

ALAKTORN wrote on 07/24/12 at 03:32:14:

Mick wrote on 07/24/12 at 02:39:30:

If you want to take an extreme example, custom menus or custom character skins are also banned here. Allowing minor hacks is essentially opening the Pandora's box.
It is VERY important to make you understand that hacking is a terrible thing to do and should never be allowed for any official competition no matter the reasons. If you're not happy with this, get the fuck out.

^this, this, this

the effect of the hack doesn’t even mean shit, hacking is banned, if you don’t like it, go fuck yourself

we should discount all of Chouy’s WRs, if he has any

My sister updated my wii to 4.3 awhile ago and I've been too lazy to update my riivolution to 4.3 so tough luck on deleting my times, but I'll be sure to let you know next time I play with custom music cause I could care less. You've got your hands full of people I feel you'd be much more reluctant to ban so good luck enforcing this rule Wink

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Reply #55 - 07/24/12 at 14:22:28

I'm glad you could care less, as it means you have some level of caring towards the fact that you're breaking site policy.

Regardless of how insignificant your modifications are, it's still altering the game beyond what was given to you in the package, and regardless of how much of an advantage you think it gives or doesn't give you, it's still against site rules.

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Reply #56 - 07/24/12 at 14:35:57

Blackyboi wrote on 07/24/12 at 09:30:54:

TheFrigz wrote on 07/23/12 at 15:58:38:

Blackyboi wrote on 07/23/12 at 15:49:45:

So Sword is gonna be banned because he records TTs which means he loads TT mode while using a modification of the Wii.
Way to go MVT.

I TAS'd my MKDD RR 60 Hz WR.

Fixed it for you.

I'll take that as a compliment

stay mad

you need to take a break from the demon world, friend, and live angelic like me. so demonic...

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Reply #57 - 07/24/12 at 15:56:22

Web wrote on 07/24/12 at 14:22:28:

I'm glad you could care less, as it means you have some level of caring towards the fact that you're breaking site policy.

Regardless of how insignificant your modifications are, it's still altering the game beyond what was given to you in the package, and regardless of how much of an advantage you think it gives or doesn't give you, it's still against site rules.

And how does this site plan to enforce this rule? When there's no way in telling if a person used them in his/her run? It's as easy as putting an mp3 over the video file and uploading to youtube. The fact that this site is even going to try to stop custom music is laughable because it won't happen.

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Reply #58 - 07/24/12 at 16:06:45

Your suggested site policy sounds reasonable to me MVT.

For those who are supporting the implementation of custom music during time trials, I am confused as to why you cannot simply plug in some earphones and listen to an iPod or mp3 player while playing? You can still share the benefit of listening to music without the use of a hack, and avoid the whole "time legitimacy" argument altogether. Just turn the gameplay volume down. This is how I time trialed back when I was an active player, and it worked just fine for me. I don't understand how in-game custom music is the only option for those who use it to improve their times.

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Silver Ex Member	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #59 - 07/24/12 at 16:22:02 Flame WiiChuck players could benefit from the in-game sounds.
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Reply #60 - 07/24/12 at 16:24:16

MKchouy93 wrote on 07/24/12 at 15:56:22:

Web wrote on 07/24/12 at 14:22:28:

I'm glad you could care less, as it means you have some level of caring towards the fact that you're breaking site policy.

Regardless of how insignificant your modifications are, it's still altering the game beyond what was given to you in the package, and regardless of how much of an advantage you think it gives or doesn't give you, it's still against site rules.

And how does this site plan to enforce this rule? When there's no way in telling if a person used them in his/her run? It's as easy as putting an mp3 over the video file and uploading to youtube. The fact that this site is even going to try to stop custom music is laughable because it won't happen.

I'm sure people using rapidfire thought the same thing.

The point is: If you are caught using modifications, you are basically fucked.

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Reply #61 - 07/24/12 at 16:28:55

☆Flαmξ wrote on 07/24/12 at 16:06:45:

Your suggested site policy sounds reasonable to me MVT.

For those who are supporting the implementation of custom music during time trials, I am confused as to why you cannot simply plug in some earphones and listen to an iPod or mp3 player while playing? You can still share the benefit of listening to music without the use of a hack, and avoid the whole "time legitimacy" argument altogether. Just turn the gameplay volume down. This is how I time trialed back when I was an active player, and it worked just fine for me. I don't understand how in-game custom music is the only option for those who use it to improve their times.

I also did this from time to time. You don't even have to go through the hassle of changing the mp3 file, just use your Ipod, mp3 player, computer, w.e. It's all right there.

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Reply #62 - 07/24/12 at 17:19:48

Sorozone wrote on 07/24/12 at 16:24:16:

MKchouy93 wrote on 07/24/12 at 15:56:22:

Web wrote on 07/24/12 at 14:22:28:

I'm glad you could care less, as it means you have some level of caring towards the fact that you're breaking site policy.

Regardless of how insignificant your modifications are, it's still altering the game beyond what was given to you in the package, and regardless of how much of an advantage you think it gives or doesn't give you, it's still against site rules.

And how does this site plan to enforce this rule? When there's no way in telling if a person used them in his/her run? It's as easy as putting an mp3 over the video file and uploading to youtube. The fact that this site is even going to try to stop custom music is laughable because it won't happen.

I'm sure people using rapidfire thought the same thing.

The point is: If you are caught using modifications, you are basically fucked.

As difficult as finding save states in a run, good luck with that.

When the time comes that you can tell if someone altered the music (never), then we can be worried about this but as for now it's pointless arguing.

People are going to continue using custom, there's no way it can be proved against them, it's stupidly easy to cover up, there's no actual benefit to it anyways and the fact that you idiots put it in the same tier as TAS when you don't even play the game yourself makes me laugh at you 'reshaping' the community.

I'm done now, I am ready to witness the drastic results of the newly reinforced site policies!

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Zwiebel Legend Offline Kmaccy-Fan punched 6670 kiddies Stuttgart Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #63 - 07/24/12 at 17:21:25 So you say if you cannot really detect something it's of no use to ban it anyway? Yeah we can never be sure of any time being TAS, so we shouldn't even try to ban it? Man you're so hillarious.
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Sorozone NinjaSorozone Offline Soro 5949 days karting Arizona Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #65 - 07/24/12 at 17:29:14 To be honest, if we have codes that can detect what controller the person used, and what their inputs are. Developing a code that can extract basic information such as BGM, or an mp3 file should be pretty easy.
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Zwiebel Legend Offline Kmaccy-Fan helped 6670 people Stuttgart Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #66 - 07/24/12 at 17:37:19 Can we ban dumb people too? Maybe Cole can develop a script that can read the brain's input from players while they play and generate their IQ
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Reply #67 - 07/24/12 at 18:04:52

Music shouldn't be banned (assuming using anything 'banned' is cause for removal from the website), the way I see it the only things that should be are things that alter the gameplay itself (slow motion, rapidfire, etc.) as well as other clear cheating methods (savestates, button remapping). The effect alternate music creates, if any, is so so miniscule there is no penalty that it would justify. I see what you guys mean saying no hacks should be allowed but it's obvious how little impact music would have. It should be frowned upon but not grounds for banning, if someone got caught using music hacks I'd just be like 'wow he's a dick for using them even though we said not to' and move on.

But textures should be 100% banned from this point on, so obviously uncool.

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Silver Ex Member	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #68 - 07/24/12 at 18:24:56 ^ Yeah, I agree with Alex with this one. It shouldn't be encouraged, as it's still a kind of hack, but it's not a huge offense if you do use them. Lol, just realized that I 'agree' with many people. This one states my opinion the best though.
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TheFrigz Ex Member	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #69 - 07/24/12 at 18:48:54 So many people want to allow cheating on this thread, truly demonic friends...
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Sorozone NinjaSorozone Offline Soro 5949 days karting Arizona Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #70 - 07/24/12 at 18:55:03 Once again. If you want to listen to music, there are other ways other than hacking your Wii. Honestly if we allow custom music through hacking, I would use it, but I wouldn't actually put music in, I'd just remove it entirely. I think people underestimate how important sound is for this game.
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Reply #71 - 07/24/12 at 19:19:26

Cancelling out the music entirely is kind of unnecessary lol, I know what you mean I need sound in the game to time wheelies but it's not like the music is so loud you can't hear your vehicle. It seems most people want everything banned, whatever the majority wants we should do (hint make a poll), I couldn't care less what the outcome is

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Sorozone NinjaSorozone Offline Soro ate 5949 donuts Arizona Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #72 - 07/24/12 at 19:22:57 Well I use sound for MT's too! Not just wheelies!
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Sorozone NinjaSorozone Offline Soro 5949 days karting Arizona Gender:	Re: Let's Craft The New Site Policies Reply #74 - 07/24/12 at 19:33:13 And for the record, the winning result of the poll, may or may not have any effect on the policy of the site.
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Poll
Question: What should be Banned?
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Everything(This includes tools for improving YOUTUBE VIDEOS) 11 (20%) Direct Gameplay Modification(Tools for YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE ALLOWED, Everything else is not) 26 (47.2%) Direct Gameplay Modification, excluding texture and music hacks(they would be allowed) 3 (5.4%) Direct Gameplay Modification, Textures are NOT ALLOWED, music IS ALLOWED 15 (27.2%) Total votes: 55 « Created by: Sorozone on: 07/24/12 at 19:30:47 »