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Reply #475 -
07/22/12 at 08:56:12
Please notice: My script
is not perfect
it could give false Alerts. It only
helps
to find unusal inputs. Maybe is a deeper investigation of the inputs necessary to make a right decision..
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(214 short inputs, maybe slowmo?!?!)
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Re: Jay
Reply #476 -
07/22/12 at 09:08:43
Most of these times are from random cheaters that likely used modified versions of top ghosts (using the live ghost codes.
Some other are from the recently discovered cheaters. There's also a good bunch of Black alts (using rapidfire).
Both of Dused times you posted here blatently use rapidfire.
Jacob's inputs are very fast, but I cannot really tell how it translate into inputs per second. Considering he is a MH specialist I would say he is a very fast masher like Brett or Nagisa.
Matthieu's time is either rapidfire or slow-mo, hard to tell, cheated regardless.
If the Dashii guy is the same one that visit these boards (had MG WR iirc), then that's another one we can remove from the charts (rapidfire code).
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A world without kart is just not a world worth living in
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Re: Jay
Reply #477 -
07/22/12 at 09:17:50
Mick wrote
on 07/22/12 at 09:08:43:
Most of these times are from random cheaters that likely used modified versions of top ghosts (using the live ghost codes).
I thought you could only copy the ghost complete with the code or improve the ending.. So maybe these "top ghosts" are also non legit
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Reply #478 -
07/22/12 at 09:20:30
Dused's inputs are so obvious xD
They're always the same rofl. Can't believe that guy doesn't have the balls to admit.
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Reply #479 -
07/22/12 at 09:21:41
Yeah good point. Maybe they are just hacked times. But I wonder how you got so many of these ghosts in the first place since they tend to get deleted very quickly (unless this has changed and Ninty became lazy).
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A world without kart is just not a world worth living in
Web wrote
on 05/13/10 at 11:24:04:
You can't quit kart, it's a mental impossibility.
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Re: Jay
Reply #480 -
07/22/12 at 09:23:26
Mick wrote
on 07/22/12 at 09:08:43:
If the Dashii guy is the same one that visit these boards (had MG WR iirc), then that's another one we can remove from the charts (rapidfire code).
The TF times don't match up, plus the Dashi we know is German and this one is Mexican.
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Re: Jay
Reply #481 -
07/22/12 at 09:23:53
Mick wrote
on 07/22/12 at 09:21:41:
Yeah good point. Maybe they are just hacked times. But I wonder how you got so many of these ghosts in the first place since they tend to get deleted very quickly (unless this has changed and Ninty became lazy).
He said that he had an old backup on his hdd of ~2000 ghosts so that is how he was able to sift through those ghosts and find those particular suspicious times.
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Re: Jay
Reply #482 -
07/22/12 at 09:26:35
Nah Walter's old 2010 alts were completely separate runs from the WR's. Not modified in any way (just watch the runs lol).
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Re: Jay
Reply #483 -
07/22/12 at 09:32:17
Danny G wrote
on 07/22/12 at 09:23:26:
Mick wrote
on 07/22/12 at 09:08:43:
If the Dashii guy is the same one that visit these boards (had MG WR iirc), then that's another one we can remove from the charts (rapidfire code).
The TF times don't match up, plus the Dashi we know is German and this one is Mexican.
I just checked this timeset, indeed. I guess the Mexican guy is another random cheater...
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Reply #484 -
07/22/12 at 11:38:57
I'm definitely not this mexican guy. Maybe it's really a random cheater.
And: I use Wiichuk (on every track), not the Gamecube Pad like him.
But you can check my times if you want to.
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Reply #485 -
07/22/12 at 11:55:25
Well, I guess that's case closed on Dused. It's a shame to find out he's been cheating for a while now...And is it just me, or did his reaction seem incredibly similar to Jorge's? (Attempting to emphasize his legit times, getting mad and storming out, etc.)
Also, the last time I talked to Walter about his old times, he insisted that all his regular PR's were legit in order to save face in front of his Youtube following. I'd love to see what he has to say now.
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Reply #486 -
07/22/12 at 12:01:07
I'd plaster it all over his videos, but he blocked me because I've unveiled the truth all over his videos before
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Reply #487 -
07/22/12 at 12:06:23
MrL1193 wrote
on 07/22/12 at 11:55:25:
Well, I guess that's case closed on Dused. It's a shame to find out he's been cheating for a while now...And is it just me, or did his reaction seem incredibly similar to Jorge's? (Attempting to emphasize his legit times, getting mad and storming out, etc.)
Also, the last time I talked to Walter about his old times, he insisted that all his regular PR's were legit in order to save face in front of his Youtube following. I'd love to see what he has to say now.
Yeah, Dused's inputs are the most obvious ones I've seen.
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Reply #488 -
07/22/12 at 12:48:33
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Re: Jay
Reply #489 -
07/22/12 at 13:03:54
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on 07/21/12 at 22:33:44:
Wyvern is ok. Had a discussion about the inputs with him on Skype and Twitter. He did a mouse clicking game and got 171 clicks in 10 seconds, rivaling the inputs on his DPad.
All I can say is I'm glad he did not cheat. That would be a serious motivation killer.
Spamming a mouse and spamming the d-pad is totally different. I had 144 'a' button presses in mario party 4 domination rounds on one of my old videos and I can't get lws for shit through spamming the d pad.
I'm not saying Wyvern is a cheater either, I'm just saying it's not really comparable and he shouldn't be let off of the hook that easy.
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Reply #490 -
07/22/12 at 13:44:48
I read this topic while listening to this:
Felt awesome. Justice is served, motherfuckers!
God help us if ever in this shitty community we turn our heads while false times are allowed on our charts. That almost happened in this case.
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Reply #491 -
07/22/12 at 13:56:38
When Maschell's script says "ALERT found 10 "non inputs < 5 frames"... in 18 frames/ 0.3 seconds" that's pretty much certain that the Rapid Fire code was used.
For the other ones, the script isn't as detailed as my personal checks because it doesn't check the individual D-pads inputs.
For example, I use the right hand claw grip, so when I press "^" on the D-pad I also often register ">".
So sometimes it might reigster as like 10 01 00 02 30 01 00 02 10 01
(Wheelie, 2 frames, Right Trick, 2 frames, Wheelie)
This may look like very fast inputs (in terms on counting non input frames) but it only happens because I register 2 different inputs when pressing the D-pad.
This also happens to some Nunchuck users.
I checked Jacob's 1'44"694 from 2008 (impossible to TAS back then) and he also registered many side tricks when mashing the D-pad.
His inputs back then would throw alerts by Maschell's script, but he actually registers less wheelie inputs per second than Nagisa and Brett (who don't register that many side tricks).
Note that all the people that I've said TAS did not register side tricks during their impossible inputs, only wheelie inputs.
Also some people were curious about ROK*Ken. I only checked one of his old 2008/09 ghosts and it looked like his playstyle was to only do one lift of the wiimote to get a chain wheelie (completely timed).
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Reply #492 -
07/22/12 at 14:01:36
I just got 3 savefiles from mindscarp
http://puu.sh/KODW
(Its too big for one screenshot
http://puu.sh/KOCZ
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THIS IS THE FUCKING HARDEST RAPIDFIRE I'VE EVER SEEN..
2100 wheelie inputs...
Complete reports (I changed the Alert Systems, its harder now to get an alert (More than 5 fast inputs in 0,5 sec))
[22.07.2012 23:45:05] Maxime | mindscarp♪: One is PAL, one is NTSC-U, one is NTSC-J - don't know if it needs to be mentioned
This is from ~April 2010
http://ninrankings.org/saves/rkysys01.htm
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Reply #493 -
07/22/12 at 14:01:48
The amount of TASers is incredible :|
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Reply #494 -
07/22/12 at 14:11:39
Maschell wrote
on 07/22/12 at 14:01:36:
I just got 3 savefiles from mindscarp
http://puu.sh/KODW
(Its too big for one screenshot
http://puu.sh/KOCZ
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THIS IS THE FUCKING HARDEST RAPIDFIRE I'VE EVER SEEN..
MANDER IS THE GREATEST CHEATER? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GET FUCKED
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Reply #495 -
07/22/12 at 14:20:52
This is 100% proof that Mander = TAS
Shortly after that run he got 1'43"765 with 11/12 perfect luck wheelies.
There were many comments on his youtube video accusing him of TAS because of these luck wheelies.
So for his next run, 1'43"577, he changed his TAS methods and didn't get as many luck wheelies. His inputs in this run seem natural. I think he most likely used savestates for this run.
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Reply #496 -
07/22/12 at 14:21:47
this is the greatest time in my life :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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ALAKTORN wrote
on 11/22/17 at 05:24:31:
OH YEAH WHY AM I NOT GLOATING MORE
I PINNED DOWN KF!TIMUR AFTER 10 FUCKING POSTS
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GET FUCKED
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Reply #497 -
07/22/12 at 14:24:19
This is a historic day for the Mario Kart site as a whole.
We finally caught the longest living cheater who got away from us for so many years. I never thought I would see this happen.
There are no words to express my gratitude.
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Re: Jay
Reply #498 -
07/22/12 at 14:25:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nICdnUyNpE8
Congrats Brett, although we knew it all along. And also I suppose Totom @ KC
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Reply #499 -
07/22/12 at 14:30:24
Well, it's nice to finally have that cleared up. Though I have to admit, part of me was really hoping Mander was legit...Oh well. Just to be absolutely certain, though, those inputs are all D-Pad Up, right?
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