Hi Friends and mk64 FAM.

Somtin is really bodering me a lot. i HOPE YOU ALL, can discuse this with me and think with me.
Escpecially the staff members.

In the past when i visit the page the staff. (wich i wasn't part of back then) asked me to come up with some video proof to show how i could be so fast.. on some stages. for a noob.

I remember starting sending in some DK sc flap and others...
but not the total setup of 32 times non  + 20 sc.

As useuall i provide proof as soon as a could. and so i could convince everyone of my kart ability's/skills. and cover my but beeing reaal without trying to cheat or use codecs.

Now adays the game has died a bit and so the chance that newbies will rice fast or are very talanted is slowing down a lot..... (IMO you need competition to become very good in any gameplay) and it doesn't come from itselfs...

MY biggest problem is #3 time in this charts  http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/course.cgi?c=46&p=0&r=0&s=0&l=
wich we never ever have seen a great video with spilts or any attempts of this fella but just the end screen time. The time itselfs is not the mean problem but the splits he said he got it with. 9'25 -9'27 - 9'27

We all know 9'25 is impossible so how come he could get this time????????????? I WANT FUCKIN PROOF. that is what it is. my first thought where cheat codes.

So now we come to my point here.

WHen do we have to ask for video proof on any newbie who is just active for a short time and never come up with any good video proof? When is the time to do that? And next question? What action needs to follow after that?!! SO

In the POLL I have some choices but maybe you have better idea's!!

The only reason I do this is cause I think in the future there will always be cheaters to mess up the charts and the best to avoid this will ever happen we need to make rules.

IMO THIS IS THE BEST TO DO:

1. PROVIDE PROOF FROM THE MOMENT YOU START PLAYIN! WELCOME NOOBS.
PICTURE/ VIDEO PROOF ALLOUWED!

2. PROVIDE VIDEO PROOF OF ANY TOP 50-100 TIME, if not times could/will be freezed.
3. PROVIDE VIDEO PROOF OF ANY TOP 11-49 TIME, if not times will be freezed/Could be erased.
4. PROVIDE VIDEO PROOF OF ANY TOP 10 TIME.... if not times will be erased!!

With video proof we are looking for the live tapes or the moment you have a flap screen with the time bliking.. or even a 3lap time with bliking endscreen + splits. not just a top 5.  

Some how this could be rules to add for any noob who visit... it's just an idea.

mmh...good to see its deleted, still some sc times are strong (TOP30)

this channel on yt from him:

-fake yv vids are the only two vids
-i cant write him a message
- he deleted comments and changed options for ratings and comments on questinable vids  
- he didnt submit any new time ...coincidence ?

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for the POll,  i think TOP25 times vids, endscreen where no replay appears or in cases high-res pics should be allowed to questioned from a team-member and also other members., of course a eye-wittness is also possible ...
if someone dont have a vid because of pause the game sometimes(like me) it should be ok if he show an equivalent run or some laps with good splits.

oh yeah and maybe there should be an extra yt-account, maybe for the people who dont have an accoint and dont wanna create one,  the can simply upload their vids to a filehoster or to a team member via p2p.

the sc-rankings still are a bit wrong by this polish bastard but at least the #3 got removed and Karlo is back in place  

I chose "Other" simply because of the fact that it takes more skill, In My Opinion, to do the NON-Shortcuts than the SC...

Take me for example...

I used to be horrible at DKJP 3lap NON-SC.  I had like around a 2-minute mark (give or take a second) BEFORE I even thought of submitting times back in 2009.  Yet somehow, I was in the 23s for the 3lap SC.  Now I've GOD-ed all times on that track EXCEPT for the 1lap SC, in which case I'm a mid-Legend.  By far my best track in terms of the 10 tracks that have 4 times (this excludes KD, bc that's automatic Double GOD should you land the SC).

So IMO, for SC, its top 100.

For NON-SC, I would think ANY time inside the TOP200 should have proof, simply because there's more to be done and it takes more skill to be able to complete 3 laps consistently.  I used to beat myself up A LOT because for a while, my LR 3lap AND 1lap times were outside the TOP200 and EVEN outside the TOP300...but now that they're inside the TOP100, I dont see why I should stop with the videos...that goes for SCs as well.

EM

PS:  Don't forget, thanks to me, we have TWO DKJP 3lap SC time UNDER 19 seconds...(one on here, and one on Cyberscore, which HAS been approved. )

I voted for the 2nd option because when I joined in 2008 and climbed the rankings deep into top 100 at the end of the year, I always thought: 'Make sure your camera is ready and do some live recording on DK/RRd so that each run is provable respecitively your skill level is well known'. I wasn't asked that often for videos, but I guess the reason was my voluntary proof. Those players who never do the mods that favor should be contacted soon to change their mind concerning the ease of rising the world rankings.

I think the most important thing is to let people have fun with time trials and the chart, and not take  times for a video game too seriously. we might ruin it for people if we start pointing fingers the second a talented someone jumps from 400 to 300 in a week.
i agree with Mattias on the top 100 as a good mark, and always ask proof for times that really stand out like eric weir had that top 30's time on TT for a long time when he was 400 something.

also I think cheaters should certainly never be given more than 2 chances and only a second chance if they were like 15 when they cheated or something like that, every case is different when dealing with people though, but it seems that if someone cheats and they get back then they are highly likely to just do it again so why risk should we risk it for them?  

^^^He puts it in the right words yes!!

outside top 100 i dont care for the charts but ones you are @ this level it's more then likely to proof yourself to the world.. people who enter top 100 or higher take this game more serious then the ones outside this charts top 100 and so i see it more like fun players. and a video proof doesn't seems the 1st thing to ask for. Ones they reahced top 100 everyone here like to see how they will rise....

^ you've got a point there about frquency. and as long as the mods are kept happy, I'd say that's the main thing. Not complying with the demands of the mods is a really bad sign.

you don't seem to consider the possibility of a female top 10 player, or a gay male player. I think on consideration you might want to drop that point on your list .

finn

I voted the second option, because with the MK64 site having so many players, once you hit top 100, you are really one of the best and should have some kind of proof.

Also, since I am pretty sure someone will ask, I froze Krystian on MKSC as well because of the issues here as well as some MKSC times that I want proof for. I'm giving him until July 20th before I remove him, but I just messaged him on Facebook, so he should get the message before then.