And I know Fank's town because he's easier to read than a children's book in french. You seem unable to grasp that concept.

1. Pointing out that you've made many posts. Why does that matter? Most of them have just been content-less and filler posts. I am aware that all of mine up until this point are of the same nature but it's common practice to post absolute bollocks on Page 1. But for someone who has said so much, you've said so little. . . if that makes sense.

2. How do you know MVT is more than likely town? Day 1 and you're already siding with people? Not good. He could be either or at this point and I'm pretty sure you could be too, no matter how much you insist against that. It's like you're trying to bring your rivalry with him to the surface but at the same time, you seem to know wayyyy more about the game than we do. . .

3. . . .like seriously how do you know that? Like seriously you're not even saying it's unlikely or that it's low in chance, you're completely denying all possibility. There's only one role that would know that on Day 1 when there is no Night 0. Mafia. It's Honko's game and he can put in whatever he wants. Just because it's overpowered doesn't mean he wouldn't put it in the game. . . if it balances out with all the other roles at hand then I don't see what would stop him.

4. And then after all these claims and statements (not speculation at all, statements as if they were fact) you go on to say that you're obvious town and we should deal with it. Well no, I am most certainly not dealing with it, you've given me no reason to believe you're aligned with town and until you start to do so my opinion will not change.

5. He continues to claim that he knows Honko inside out and that he knows that would and wouldn't make the cut. This isn't as bold as the previous statement about the Jester but it's high on the list. I still want to know his reasoning for thinking that any of these roles are totally impossible on Day 1. And I know that I had a go at Fank for talking about them, but that's mainly because he formulated some imaginary gameplan COMPLETELY revolved around something we aren't even sure exists. Just seems like a random stab in the dark that is completely unnecessary.

6. Most likely sarcastic. . . could be double bluff? I have played with you before on mafia team and you most definitely have associated yourself with your partners in this way before. I will take this line with a handful of salt for now but it's worth keeping in mind incase he continues to slip up, then we will know if he's either trying to throw us off or if he's double bluffing and has his buddies lined up.

7. Why are you so persistent on getting inactives to talk? Frustrated? I know I would be. Definitely something I can imagine from scum on Day 1: "Shit, they're all on to me, but there are other people who haven't said anything yet and they don't seem to care. That's not fair!". It's just so typical to try so desperately to throw the attention off of you in this situation, but why? It's Day 1, not everyone is going to talk substantially, you know that as well, so why are you solely focusing on getting everyone to say something?

I may have misread Honkos opening post incorrectly, but I'm quite sure that he's implying that he will deal with inactive players if it comes down to it. Go check it over yourself. Something about special rules being added to the game at random intervals that require you to follow, otherwise resulting in a modkill. Inactive players will get fucked either way. Maybe you didn't see this, but it kind of implies that inactivity without reason will not be justified.

8. What is this like the third time you've said someone is "obvious" town? How can someone be obvious town this early? Please, explain it to me. I don't understand. You're either throwing the word obvious around as if it were confetti or you're just trying to get on peoples good books, which is fishy as fuck.

9. Here you go again with the inactive post list. And this comes across as a very whiny, bitchy, wanky line that says "Oh my god why are they not targeting any of these players but they're all on to me! Life isn't fair!" to me.

You have a lot of answering to do for me since so far you've spouted absolute crap (and no I'm not including your role-claim as part of this, I am well aware that is a joke) and given statements regarding the game as if you have some inside info that

ok... we have a definete brett... a more than likely sportsguy and maybe Zwiebel as scum... Who do you want to go for

1) Clark completely ignores or sidesteps my direct question asking his thoughts on what honko would do in setting up the game with us both in.

1. There's several people that are being much worse than me at this point. I like how you mainly want to focus on me and nobody else though. IDK what you really want me to say. I've given my reads on who I think is town/mafia/needs to post more, whereas all you have done is straight tunnel on me for reasons which I'm sure both you and I are aware of. And yes I'm always gonna defend if someone makes a vote for me. At first I thought MVT's vote was an obvious joke but based on page 2 I think he was rather serious.

2. Past games. This isn't the first time MVT has straight up grudge voted me. Every time he's done it, he's been town. And quite frankly he hasn't said anything that makes me think he's mafia. He could be changing up his posting and thinking he can get a snap lynch on me but I think the chances of him being town are greater. Hence my "most likely" comment.

3. I can't think of any possible scenario where a jester would NOT be OP'd. There have been hoe many games of mafia played here? I don't know, but the number is quite a lot. The only time there was a jester (2 actually) was during an OPEN ROLES game. I have little reason to think differently this time around.

4. Just stating the obvious. IDK why you think I'm so obvscum atm.

5. Same as point 3. Do you know what a lyncher role is? It's someone that gets assigned a target during his role PM (and the target is town), and he wins if he successfully gets his target lynched. You let me know if MVT lyncher and Brett lynchee is feasible. Because if this is actually the case then I think I would have a high chance of hitting the lottery.

Tom1 wrote on 03/26/12 at 06:44:11:


He posted a little bit above you:


RVZ wrote on 03/26/12 at 06:35:28:


A bit of a filler post sadly but a post regardless. He's attacking you in it, but in all fairness you've been fairly active thus far, even before he wrote that post about you. So I'd like to know his reasoning.

Thank you to Brett to responding to my points, going to re-read bits and pieces of the thread (and reply to your post) and consolidate my thoughts of who is worth going for from my perspective

While I still don't understand why there was heat on Brett at the very beginning of the game, he doesn't apear to be mafia in my book. It seemed like someone had it out for him and a couple others just ran with it and voted was too quickly.

I think a lot of people are jumping the gun and wildly voting. I mean, people are spite voting because of personal issues outside of the game. Why did Clark vote for Tom? Spite. Why did Tom vote for Clark? Retaliation and spite. This is no way to play the game, and it makes it harder for me to read into your posts.

I know that there's only 20 or so hours left in the day, but I still can't vote unless I'm prettt confident with my choice.

way too early for me to start up a huge bandwagon on Brett, he needs more pressure from other sources thrown on him before I'm willing to thrown down my D1 vote on him as mafia, especially when we're just getting out of the joke posts and into the real game. I think you know that it's early too MVT.

On another note, one thing that struck me slightly off was Tom saying he would target everyone that wasn't really posting at all, but then in the same post said he would be gone for the day. Targeting no-posters just seems like an easy way out to get posts in, and when you're not going to be there for a good portion of the day and accuse those that are doing the same thing it just seems odd.

Fank009 wrote on 03/25/12 at 14:15:04:

didn't know apples were measured in brightness...

Don't understand fank's posting style, but he goes the stream of consciousness route and kind of throws it all out there at once for people to pick through. Unclear read now, although kind of an unclear read for most games.

Sportsguy, you said Brett sounded like a scared townie. Brett really doesn't strike me as the type of mafia player who after accused would go into a whole ramble of posts in order to attempt to clear his name, I think he's a smarter player than that. He's definitely not a scared townie to me at this point in the game.

Would like to hear more opinions than Me/Brett/MVT/fank/sportsguy though. The game is actually moving somewhere and less than half of the people are following it.

Joe Reinreb wrote on 03/25/12 at 15:51:46:

Really hope you know he's joking...

Gaff and Fank are better off leaving alive today. Gaff will eventually become obvious around D3 or so in regards to what side he is on, and as for Fank, his first post sucked but he's done better since. Wouldn't be a bad lynch if there was no one else to go for but atm I feel like Web is the best lynch. Either that or Joe/RVZ.